2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Sanders is far to the left of Obama. They are not comparable at all.

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

I wish that all those theories saying that Obama is a socialist were actually true...sadly, he's just a neoliberal war criminal.

[United States of Devonta]

Sanders continues to lead but Buttigieg is second. Sanders is benefiting from Warren's fall while Buttigieg is benefiting from Biden's fall. The breakdown:

Sanders 28%
Buttigieg 21%
Biden 11%
Warren 9%
Gabbard 6%
Klobuchar 5%
Steyer 3%
Yang 3%

Likely Sanders will win but his margin of victory might be smaller.

Biden is hitting Mayor Pete hard now trying to get back support. But I do worry about NH. Bernie needs to campaign hard the next couple of days.

[Cisairse]

Sanders is far to the left of Obama. They are not comparable at all.

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

I, for one, cannot wait for Tucker Carlson to start calling Sanders a Muslim (even though he isn't christian in the first place) who was born in Ukraine.

[Ifreann]

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

I, for one, cannot wait for Tucker Carlson to start calling Sanders a Muslim (even though he isn't christian in the first place) who was born in Ukraine.

Sanders is a well known Ukrainian Muslim name.

[Cisairse]

I, for one, cannot wait for Tucker Carlson to start calling Sanders a Muslim (even though he isn't christian in the first place) who was born in Ukraine.

Sanders is a well known Ukrainian Muslim name.

There is a lot of evidence, proven and unproven, everybody's got an opinion that Ukraine was where Bernie Sanders went on his honeymoon, along with Russia, and probably others.

[Major-Tom]

Sanders continues to lead but Buttigieg is second. Sanders is benefiting from Warren's fall while Buttigieg is benefiting from Biden's fall. The breakdown:

Sanders 28%
Buttigieg 21%
Biden 11%
Warren 9%
Gabbard 6%
Klobuchar 5%
Steyer 3%
Yang 3%

Likely Sanders will win but his margin of victory might be smaller.

Biden is hitting Mayor Pete hard now trying to get back support. But I do worry about NH. Bernie needs to campaign hard the next couple of days.

He can and will. His team in NH is dedicated and strong as fuck.

Watching Biden flounder, too, is just too funny. Ditto for Warren.

[USS Monitor]

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

I wish that all those theories saying that Obama is a socialist were actually true...sadly, he's just a neoliberal war criminal.

At this point calling someone a "neoliberal war criminal" is about as meaningful as the GOP calling them a socialist.

I've never met anybody that self-identified as a "neoliberal" unless they were doing it as a self-deprecating joke. It's not an ideology that people subscribe to as much as it's a handy slur for left-leaning people to insult other left-leaning people when they don't screech loud enough about the establishment being evil and 2016 primaries being rigged.

[Cisairse]

I wish that all those theories saying that Obama is a socialist were actually true...sadly, he's just a neoliberal war criminal.

At this point calling someone a "neoliberal war criminal" is about as meaningful as the GOP calling them a socialist.

I've never met anybody that self-identified as a "neoliberal" unless they were doing it as a self-deprecating joke. It's not an ideology that people subscribe to as much as it's a handy slur for left-leaning people to insult other left-leaning people when they don't screech loud enough about the establishment being evil and 2016 primaries being rigged.

"Neoliberal" may not be as used, but "New Democrat" is an established phrased in political jargon and is a term that has been widely applied to President Clinton and President Obama's specific policybooks. Clinton himself used the term, and in fact there is a 'New Democrat Coalition' in Congress with about 100 members.
The combination of cultural liberalism, fiscal conservatism, and a lack of general aversion to the use of military force or the intelligence apparatus more or less fits what people mean by "neoliberal."

[Bienenhalde]

Sanders is far to the left of Obama. They are not comparable at all.

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

Yeah, but only people who are already hardcore Republicans anyway actually fall for that nonsense.

[Tarsonis]

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

Yeah, but only people who are already hardcore Republicans anyway actually fall for that nonsense.

You sound like a socialist

[Gormwood]

That's their secret, Cap, Republicans call everything they don't like socialism

Yeah, but only people who are already hardcore Republicans anyway actually fall for that nonsense.

There are farmers screwed by the trade war and miners getting jack shit saying they'd vote for Trump again anyways. The entire boomer base is hardcore by default.

[Cisairse]

Yeah, but only people who are already hardcore Republicans anyway actually fall for that nonsense.

You sound like a socialist

Did you just say "socialist"? Aha, I knew you were a socialist.

[Tarsonis]

You sound like a socialist

Did you just say "socialist"? Aha, I knew you were a socialist.

Sounds like something a socialist would say.

[Kowani]

Or are you talking about progressivity in the technical sense, wherein we charge a higher rate as wealth levels increase? Because that kind of tax is extremely dangerous, from an economic POV.

Ok, so please consider me ignorant on economics (unironically, it's the only class I ever got a C in), but why is this the case?

It’s not, not at all.

[San Lumen]

Yeah, but only people who are already hardcore Republicans anyway actually fall for that nonsense.

There are farmers screwed by the trade war and miners getting jack shit saying they'd vote for Trump again anyways. The entire boomer base is hardcore by default.

Farmers it seems will vote Republican no matter what. You could nominate my dog in some rural districts and he or she would be elected simply because there is an R next to their name

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

There are farmers screwed by the trade war and miners getting jack shit saying they'd vote for Trump again anyways. The entire boomer base is hardcore by default.

Farmers it seems will vote Republican no matter what. You could nominate my dog in some rural districts and he or she would be elected simply because there is an R next to their name

You could make Karl Marx a Republican and Richard Spencer a Democrat and they would still vote for Marx. Teleporting those folks before the party switch would be an amazing headspin for them tbh.

[San Lumen]

Farmers it seems will vote Republican no matter what. You could nominate my dog in some rural districts and he or she would be elected simply because there is an R next to their name

You could make Karl Marx a Republican and Richard Spencer a Democrat and they would still vote for Marx. Teleporting those folks before the party switch would be an amazing headspin for them tbh.

Very true as much as I dont want it to be. In rural Nevada a deceased brothel owner got elected in 2018 despite voters being informed he was deceased at polling stations in accordance with state law.

[Cisairse]

There are farmers screwed by the trade war and miners getting jack shit saying they'd vote for Trump again anyways. The entire boomer base is hardcore by default.

Farmers it seems will vote Republican no matter what. You could nominate my dog in some rural districts and he or she would be elected simply because there is an R next to their name

Republicans will literally elect a dead pimp over a Democrat.

[Cisairse]

You could make Karl Marx a Republican and Richard Spencer a Democrat and they would still vote for Marx. Teleporting those folks before the party switch would be an amazing headspin for them tbh.

Very true as much as I dont want it to be. In rural Nevada a deceased brothel owner got elected in 2018 despite voters being informed he was deceased at polling stations in accordance with state law.

Oh shit you sniped me

[San Lumen]

Farmers it seems will vote Republican no matter what. You could nominate my dog in some rural districts and he or she would be elected simply because there is an R next to their name

Republicans will literally elect a dead pimp over a Democrat.

It is truly unbelievable to me that people can be that partisan they would vote for a deceased person

[Tarsonis]

Republicans will literally elect a dead pimp over a Democrat.

It is truly unbelievable to me that people can be that partisan they would vote for a deceased person

So you can't fathom the way you yourself think? Because you're exactly that partisan.

[San Lumen]

It is truly unbelievable to me that people can be that partisan they would vote for a deceased person

So you can't fathom the way you yourself think? Because you're exactly that partisan.

I would not vote for deceased person

[Cisairse]

Republicans will literally elect a dead pimp over a Democrat.

It is truly unbelievable to me that people can be that partisan they would vote for a deceased person

And he won with a pretty wide margin, too.

[San Lumen]

It is truly unbelievable to me that people can be that partisan they would vote for a deceased person

And he won with a pretty wide margin, too.

rural Nevada is extremely red. It would have been a massive upset if the Democrat had won and a one term rental.

[Bienenhalde]

Yeah, but only people who are already hardcore Republicans anyway actually fall for that nonsense.

There are farmers screwed by the trade war and miners getting jack shit saying they'd vote for Trump again anyways. The entire boomer base is hardcore by default.

I mean, the stubborness of some hardcore Trump supporters is quite unfortunate, but there are many boomers and well as moderates and conservatives from other generational backgrounds who oppose Trump. It would be a huge mistake for the Democrats just to ignore these people and write us off as unimportant.