2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[Pasong Tirad]

That would be the ideal scenario if the Democrats want to save their party from being ripped apart, especially if the candidate with the most delegates on the first round is Bernie. It would fuel the resentment against the party.

I would think they would go with whomever has the most delegates.

You would think that, wouldn't you?

[Neu California]

For those wondering how the Iowa caucuses work (and why they're first) the BBC has a good primer

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51299245

[USS Monitor]

Remember, failing to ordain Bernie as the winner before the primaries even start is proof of corruption.

And all the people who howled about Clinton being coronated in 2016 are now cricket chirps.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I am not feeling the Bern this time around.

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

[San Lumen]

And all the people who howled about Clinton being coronated in 2016 are now cricket chirps.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I am not feeling the Bern this time around.

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

Hence why I dont think he's going to get the nomination. But I could be wrong

[Aureumterra]

And all the people who howled about Clinton being coronated in 2016 are now cricket chirps.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I am not feeling the Bern this time around.

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

The populism might’ve gotten to his head

[San Lumen]

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I am not feeling the Bern this time around.

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

The populism might’ve gotten to his head

Sanders has a a hard ceiling and simply isn't popular with large sections of the party. I dont see him winning in California for example.

[South Odreria 2]

The populism might’ve gotten to his head

Sanders has a a hard ceiling and simply isn't popular with large sections of the party. I dont see him winning in California for example.

What is this hard ceiling? Because it used to supposedly be the mid-teens but now he's in the early to mid twenties.

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

I think he wasn't the only one annoyed by the number of candidates? Though you are right that he took his status for granted at times.

[Pasong Tirad]

The populism might’ve gotten to his head

Sanders has a a hard ceiling and simply isn't popular with large sections of the party. I dont see him winning in California for example.

Sanders is leading in California according to polls. He leads against his contenders in all age groups except for 65+ and he leads among non-white voters.

[Cannot think of a name]

Sanders has a a hard ceiling and simply isn't popular with large sections of the party. I dont see him winning in California for example.

Sanders is leading in California according to polls. He leads against his contenders in all age groups except for 65+ and he leads among non-white voters.

If he's ahead by super Tuesday California could very well end up selecting Bernie and making him the candidate to beat. But we're not use to mattering, so polling it a little weird for us, we either vote for whoever is ahead or wank our vote because it doesn't matter. We were so late in the process for years that as a Californian it's hard for me to process having a voice in the primary, it's always felt like "Alright, I guess a few small states with populations lower than Los Angeles will sort it out and we'll stamp it or something." I haven't ever belonged to a major party because why? Vote in the primary? Who the fuck cares?

This is anecdotal, maybe I'm wrong. I don't even know what to look up...someone doing a survey of Californians feelings about primaries in general? Who knows. I should be working...

[Pasong Tirad]

Sanders is leading in California according to polls. He leads against his contenders in all age groups except for 65+ and he leads among non-white voters.

If he's ahead by super Tuesday California could very well end up selecting Bernie and making him the candidate to beat. But we're not use to mattering, so polling it a little weird for us, we either vote for whoever is ahead or wank our vote because it doesn't matter. We were so late in the process for years that as a Californian it's hard for me to process having a voice in the primary, it's always felt like "Alright, I guess a few small states with populations lower than Los Angeles will sort it out and we'll stamp it or something." I haven't ever belonged to a major party because why? Vote in the primary? Who the fuck cares?

This is anecdotal, maybe I'm wrong. I don't even know what to look up...someone doing a survey of Californians feelings about primaries in general? Who knows. I should be working...

Big mood. I should be working too.

[Cannot think of a name]

If he's ahead by super Tuesday California could very well end up selecting Bernie and making him the candidate to beat. But we're not use to mattering, so polling it a little weird for us, we either vote for whoever is ahead or wank our vote because it doesn't matter. We were so late in the process for years that as a Californian it's hard for me to process having a voice in the primary, it's always felt like "Alright, I guess a few small states with populations lower than Los Angeles will sort it out and we'll stamp it or something." I haven't ever belonged to a major party because why? Vote in the primary? Who the fuck cares?

This is anecdotal, maybe I'm wrong. I don't even know what to look up...someone doing a survey of Californians feelings about primaries in general? Who knows. I should be working...

Big mood. I should be working too.

The trap of self employment/working from home. My immediate supervisor is a pushover.

[South Odreria 2]

Big mood. I should be working too.

The trap of self employment/working from home. My immediate supervisor is a pushover.

I ought to take another shot at physically separating myself from the home computer.

[San Lumen]

Sanders is leading in California according to polls. He leads against his contenders in all age groups except for 65+ and he leads among non-white voters.

If he's ahead by super Tuesday California could very well end up selecting Bernie and making him the candidate to beat. But we're not use to mattering, so polling it a little weird for us, we either vote for whoever is ahead or wank our vote because it doesn't matter. We were so late in the process for years that as a Californian it's hard for me to process having a voice in the primary, it's always felt like "Alright, I guess a few small states with populations lower than Los Angeles will sort it out and we'll stamp it or something." I haven't ever belonged to a major party because why? Vote in the primary? Who the fuck cares?

This is anecdotal, maybe I'm wrong. I don't even know what to look up...someone doing a survey of Californians feelings about primaries in general? Who knows. I should be working...

I don’t think he’s electable. There is a reason republicans want him as the nominee. He’d be the easiest to beat and wipe out all the gains of 2018 but democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot

[Pasong Tirad]

If he's ahead by super Tuesday California could very well end up selecting Bernie and making him the candidate to beat. But we're not use to mattering, so polling it a little weird for us, we either vote for whoever is ahead or wank our vote because it doesn't matter. We were so late in the process for years that as a Californian it's hard for me to process having a voice in the primary, it's always felt like "Alright, I guess a few small states with populations lower than Los Angeles will sort it out and we'll stamp it or something." I haven't ever belonged to a major party because why? Vote in the primary? Who the fuck cares?

This is anecdotal, maybe I'm wrong. I don't even know what to look up...someone doing a survey of Californians feelings about primaries in general? Who knows. I should be working...

I don’t think he’s electable. There is a reason republicans want him as the nominee. He’d be the easiest to beat and wipe out all the gains of 2018 but democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot

You seem really keen to repeat yourself without providing evidence.

[San Lumen]

I don’t think he’s electable. There is a reason republicans want him as the nominee. He’d be the easiest to beat and wipe out all the gains of 2018 but democrats seem keen on shooting themselves in the foot

You seem really keen to repeat yourself without providing evidence.

If he gets the nomination don’t whine and complain when he loses in a landslide but then it won’t matter because the republic as we know it will be over and republicans will do all they can to ensure they never lose another election and thus country will be democracy in name only

[Gormwood]

You seem really keen to repeat yourself without providing evidence.

If he gets the nomination don’t whine and complain when he loses in a landslide but then it won’t matter because the republic as we know it will be over and republicans will do all they can to ensure they never lose another election and thus country will be democracy in name only

The Republicans are hopped on their own meme that literally anyone the Democrats nominate will give Trump a landslide victory.

[San Lumen]

If he gets the nomination don’t whine and complain when he loses in a landslide but then it won’t matter because the republic as we know it will be over and republicans will do all they can to ensure they never lose another election and thus country will be democracy in name only

The Republicans are hopped on their own meme that literally anyone the Democrats nominate will give Trump a landslide victory.

Bernie would lose in a landslide I guarantee it but I’m afraid I’ll have to say I’ll told you so but after that it won’t matter. Democracy will be over and this planet will die

[Pasong Tirad]

You seem really keen to repeat yourself without providing evidence.

If he gets the nomination don’t whine and complain when he loses in a landslide but then it won’t matter because the republic as we know it will be over and republicans will do all they can to ensure they never lose another election and thus country will be democracy in name only

I'm still not seeing any evidence in that whole paragraph.

[South Odreria 2]

Bernie would lose in a landslide I guarantee it but I’m afraid I’ll have to say I’ll told you so but after that it won’t matter. Democracy will be over and this planet will die

Yes that's what we want we work for Vladimir Putin.

[USS Monitor]

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

I think he wasn't the only one annoyed by the number of candidates? Though you are right that he took his status for granted at times.

Other people might have been privately annoyed at the number of candidates, but Bernie in particular was a bad sport about it, and it really goes against the messages he was putting out in 2016 about being willing to debate any time, anywhere.

Of course, Biden had his own issues with taking his support for granted and not being on top of his game to convince undecided voters. He just went the muddled and sloppy route while Bernie went the condescending route.

[San Lumen]

If he gets the nomination don’t whine and complain when he loses in a landslide but then it won’t matter because the republic as we know it will be over and republicans will do all they can to ensure they never lose another election and thus country will be democracy in name only

I'm still not seeing any evidence in that whole paragraph.

I am a political historian and I am telling you he’s unelectable and will be a disaster down ballot. But what do i know I only studied politics?

[San Lumen]

Bernie would lose in a landslide I guarantee it but I’m afraid I’ll have to say I’ll told you so but after that it won’t matter. Democracy will be over and this planet will die

Yes that's what we want we work for Vladimir Putin.

So how about we don’t give him what he wants?

[Pasong Tirad]

I'm still not seeing any evidence in that whole paragraph.

I am a political historian and I am telling you he’s unelectable and will be a disaster down ballot. But what do i know I only studied politics?

Then as a political historian you shouldn't have any problem posting some citations to your "guarantee" that Bernie will lose in a landslide, despite the fact that head-to-head polls show him beating Trump.

[Gormwood]

Yes that's what we want we work for Vladimir Putin.

So how about we don’t give him what he wants?

What was that about voting no matter who gets nominated? If Sanders does win there's going to be a motivation boost in his base, unlike Ron Paul's fanboys.

[Cisairse]

Iowa is in four days. It was kinda feeling like votes would never be cast and we'd just be locked in some sort of eternity where we argue over who our favorite Big Brother housemate is our favorite.

Of course once it's winnowed down some jackass will start a bracket for 2024, so I guess I'll continue to feel that way.

John Kerry will win the presidency in 2024.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I am not feeling the Bern this time around.

And it isn't just his supporters. At the first debate you could tell Bernie came in expecting a coronation. He was visibly annoyed that he had to share the stage and the speaking time with so many other candidates.

Hence why I dont think he's going to get the nomination. But I could be wrong

I mean if Bernie's main attitude is that he should have won in 2016, Bidens's main attitude is that he would have won in 2016 and he's just collecting a raincheck.

Both the frontrunners have carried an attitude that they 'deserve' to win. But here's a really hot take: If you don't have that attitude, you will appear weak and people will not get enthusiastic about you. This is what is happening to Amy.
Becoming president of the United States is an absolutely insane thing for most people to actually want to do. If you aren't in it 100%, you better not be in it at all. And if you're in it 100%, you better show the whole entire world that you are or you're telling them that you'll get ripped to shreds.