by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 am
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:18 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Aureumterra » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:22 am
by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:22 am
Aureumterra wrote:What’s with the intense hatred towards boomers lately?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Greed and Death » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:24 am
by Australian rePublic » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:24 am
by Red Roja » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:02 pm
by Aureumterra » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:06 pm
Red Roja wrote:Social Security needs to be reformed, not outright slashed.
Personally, I think it is unreasonable to hate boomers so much for all being entitled and irresponsible. It's like hating Black people for being lazy and committing so much crime. Yes, some boomers act entitled and irresponsible, but others are kind and very responsible. Likewise, some Black people are lazy and do commit crime while others work hard and live honest, law abiding lives. Judging a whole group by the actions of some is unreasonable which is why prejudice is always stupid.
by Purgatio » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:06 pm
by Purgatio » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:07 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Here we go again with unfounded boomer hatred
**sigh**
by The Black Forrest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:10 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:15 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:So Trump recently promised to slash old age benefits like medicare and social security.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/23/politics ... index.html
Most of the left is indignant at this, but I'm not.
I look at the baby boomers, and I see a generation that never had to pay for what they did to the environment. If we enacted a carbon tax now, we would bill Millennials for their role in climate change, but baby boomers, many of whom are already retired, would have already gotten away with it.
If, however, we slashed social security and medicare instead, we would be taking back from old people what their carbon pollution cost us in flooded towns. So I'm all for it. Slash social security. Slash medicare. They made this mess. They owe us.
What say you, NSG?
by Galloism » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:17 pm
Ifreann wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:So Trump recently promised to slash old age benefits like medicare and social security.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/23/politics ... index.html
Most of the left is indignant at this, but I'm not.
I look at the baby boomers, and I see a generation that never had to pay for what they did to the environment. If we enacted a carbon tax now, we would bill Millennials for their role in climate change, but baby boomers, many of whom are already retired, would have already gotten away with it.
If, however, we slashed social security and medicare instead, we would be taking back from old people what their carbon pollution cost us in flooded towns. So I'm all for it. Slash social security. Slash medicare. They made this mess. They owe us.
What say you, NSG?
I would estimate that approximately zero people in receipt of social security or medicare are in any meaningful way responsible for climate change.
by Purgatio » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:17 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Purgatio wrote:
Not wanting to give someone free shit is not the same as hating them. I have nothing against Boomers who don't steal my money.
. Oh the old hate the sin not the sinner nonsense.
Free shit? You do realize many of these boomers have paid into the system right?
Have you looked at this free shit and life style they have?
You haven’t.
by The Black Forrest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:22 pm
Purgatio wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
. Oh the old hate the sin not the sinner nonsense.
Free shit? You do realize many of these boomers have paid into the system right?
Have you looked at this free shit and life style they have?
You haven’t.
Uhh no, systems like Social Security and Medicare by definition are generational transfer systems, people presently working pay into the system to fund the lifestyles of the retirees at that point in time, then the working taxpayers going old and retire and they get free stuff from people down below, like an endless Pyramid scheme fuelled by new births. So yes, maybe people presently retired paid into the system and had their money stolen by the retirees of their day, they are entitled to be aggrieved about the theft they had to endure, just as I am entitled to be aggrieved about the theft we now have to endure to support their entire generation.
by Galloism » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:24 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Purgatio wrote:
Uhh no, systems like Social Security and Medicare by definition are generational transfer systems, people presently working pay into the system to fund the lifestyles of the retirees at that point in time, then the working taxpayers going old and retire and they get free stuff from people down below, like an endless Pyramid scheme fuelled by new births. So yes, maybe people presently retired paid into the system and had their money stolen by the retirees of their day, they are entitled to be aggrieved about the theft they had to endure, just as I am entitled to be aggrieved about the theft we now have to endure to support their entire generation.
Pyramid scheme? Free stuff? That’s not really comments of knowing the situation.
Instead of shaking your fist at the sky; why not go investigate these old people and see this extravagant life style you seem to believe exists.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:26 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:27 pm
Galloism wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Pyramid scheme? Free stuff? That’s not really comments of knowing the situation.
Instead of shaking your fist at the sky; why not go investigate these old people and see this extravagant life style you seem to believe exists.
I mean, we could examine Donald Trump. He is both receiving social security and on medicare.
by Purgatio » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:28 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Purgatio wrote:
Uhh no, systems like Social Security and Medicare by definition are generational transfer systems, people presently working pay into the system to fund the lifestyles of the retirees at that point in time, then the working taxpayers going old and retire and they get free stuff from people down below, like an endless Pyramid scheme fuelled by new births. So yes, maybe people presently retired paid into the system and had their money stolen by the retirees of their day, they are entitled to be aggrieved about the theft they had to endure, just as I am entitled to be aggrieved about the theft we now have to endure to support their entire generation.
Pyramid scheme? Free stuff? That’s not really comments of knowing the situation.
Instead of shaking your fist at the sky; why not go investigate these old people and see this extravagant life style you seem to believe exists.
by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:29 pm
Aureumterra wrote:What’s with the intense hatred towards boomers lately?
by Galloism » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:29 pm
by Arlenton » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:30 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:32 pm
Galloism wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Ok. I support canceling it now.
I'm just pointing out they are both universal programs - covering rich and poor alike.
I say we cancel it for politicians until they retire from public service - like other retirement plans. you can't receive social security while working for the state.
by Galloism » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:32 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Galloism wrote:I'm just pointing out they are both universal programs - covering rich and poor alike.
I say we cancel it for politicians until they retire from public service - like other retirement plans. you can't receive social security while working for the state.
I have to work on my sarcasm skills
Make it so politicians don’t get the retirement packages they get. Make them use these services and see all this “free shit” and lifestyles they live.
by The Black Forrest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:33 pm
Purgatio wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Pyramid scheme? Free stuff? That’s not really comments of knowing the situation.
Instead of shaking your fist at the sky; why not go investigate these old people and see this extravagant life style you seem to believe exists.
It doesn't have to be extravagant for it to still be parasitical sponging. I frankly don't care what kind of standard of living these people are in, what matters is they are stealing the value of an entire working generation's labour to fuel their own personal expenses, an unspeakable injustice by any reasonable standard. Theft is theft regardless of what the thief does with the money or what impact it has on the thief's standard of living.
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