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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:48 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
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Hoyteca wrote:I have lost all faith in humanity long ago. As soon as someone makes a cure for something or invents a better lightbulb, someone else turns it into a "better" bomb. The worst, I find, are the cultures of the West, Middle East, and Africa. People are dying because someone else valued their convenience or honor too much, depending on where they are.

I guess that's why I liked the Avatar movie. It wasn't another one of those "humans good; everyone else bad" movies. Humanity's darker side wasn't glossed over. We need more movies like that, where humanity doesn't just fix its screwups by killing something else.

I know this sounds mean, but perhaps death was a better fate for him than merely surviving in a world of selfish assholes and mindless drones.


That's actually why I disliked it: good still won even when by all rights humanity should have kicked their asses and gotten that damn valuable mineral.

I was rooting for the soldiers to wipe them out, and was dissapointed when the movie made them lose.

Sometimes, being assholes are why we were able to survive and rise to power.


The clue was in the resource name. Unobtanium. Really, humanity should have see that name and thought, "Well we're not getting that."


No, they should have changed the name to something snazzy and marketable like "Captain Jungle Dawgs Mothafuckin Flyin' Rocks of Awesome".


Besides, the humans are just going to come back, with a proper military force. Gawd I think I'm getting a boner.


Oh good, now I finally get a fuckin' sequel to Dances With Wolves.

I thought the time would never come.
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Postby Londim » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:48 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Londim wrote:
New Amerik wrote:
Hoyteca wrote:I have lost all faith in humanity long ago. As soon as someone makes a cure for something or invents a better lightbulb, someone else turns it into a "better" bomb. The worst, I find, are the cultures of the West, Middle East, and Africa. People are dying because someone else valued their convenience or honor too much, depending on where they are.

I guess that's why I liked the Avatar movie. It wasn't another one of those "humans good; everyone else bad" movies. Humanity's darker side wasn't glossed over. We need more movies like that, where humanity doesn't just fix its screwups by killing something else.

I know this sounds mean, but perhaps death was a better fate for him than merely surviving in a world of selfish assholes and mindless drones.


That's actually why I disliked it: good still won even when by all rights humanity should have kicked their asses and gotten that damn valuable mineral.

I was rooting for the soldiers to wipe them out, and was dissapointed when the movie made them lose.

Sometimes, being assholes are why we were able to survive and rise to power.


The clue was in the resource name. Unobtanium. Really, humanity should have see that name and thought, "Well we're not getting that."


Unobtainium's more of an engineering joke than a resource joke.

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Postby Austria-russia » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:49 pm

no one should ever have their life taken from them it's just hrrible not even the worlds worst person

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Postby The St Timothy Isles » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:50 pm

Unobtanium is better than Tiberium (from C&C).
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Postby The Parthians » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:50 pm

Well yeah, he's homeless. Had it been a relatively normal looking individual, the outcome probably would have been different...

Most people have a tendency towards ignoring homeless people, hence probably why this happened.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:50 pm

The St Timothy Isles wrote:Unobtanium is better than Tiberium (from C&C).


But not Spice (from Dune).

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:52 pm

Austria-russia wrote:no one should ever have their life taken from them it's just hrrible not even the worlds worst person

Life's value is rather meager when you think about it. Everytime someone dies from a preventable disease, or from starvation, we, every last one of us, are putting a price tag on that person's life. They weren't worth the time, effort, or money to save, to cure, to feed, in order to prevent them from dying an early death.

Those who claim that life is priceless, yet refuse to donate the vast majority, if not all, of their acquired funds and time into saving these people, have only proven that life is without a price, or rather, without any absolute worth.
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Postby Flameswroth » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:52 pm

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Londim wrote:The clue was in the resource name. Unobtanium. Really, humanity should have see that name and thought, "Well we're not getting that."

Actually, they should have nuked the site from orbit and then renamed the mineral.

Perhaps, but maybe the effect of the radiation on the substance's composition was unknown. It might denature the material, sending it into a radioactive decay. Or, worst case scenario, it causes the whole mass to ignite that a shard of magnesium. Then you got jack shit to go home with.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:53 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:But not Spice (from Dune).

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Postby Austria-russia » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:54 pm

everybody has a heart in them sometimes its just so deep down it nver sees the light of day

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Postby The St Timothy Isles » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:54 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
The St Timothy Isles wrote:Unobtanium is better than Tiberium (from C&C).


But not Spice (from Dune).


But spice falls to the mineral called Jennomite.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:54 pm

Flameswroth wrote:Perhaps, but maybe the effect of the radiation on the substance's composition was unknown. It might denature the material, sending it into a radioactive decay. Or, worst case scenario, it causes the whole mass to ignite that a shard of magnesium. Then you got jack shit to go home with.

Better than ending up with a military failure that never should have happened, causing widespread dissent and a loss of faith in the human military.

Or we could have used antimatter bombs, certainly technology has advanced as far by then?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:57 pm

Austria-russia wrote:everybody has a heart in them sometimes its just so deep down it nver sees the light of day

I have a heart. But I allow it to see the light of the day as it truly is, and light isn't always good.

Light is merely illumination, showing us things as they really are. Sometimes, what we're shown is pleasing. Sometimes it isn't. Recoil at every unpleasant view, and you end up unwilling to accept the illumination, preferring to remain in the darkness of ignorance. Accept that the unpleasant in this world is here, and unlikely to go away, accept and embrace it, even, and you find yourself with much less to worry about, less facades to keep up.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:02 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:You shouldn't need to use those sorts of weapons against spear tossing savages, what are we, sissies?

Better for a thousand bombs to be wasted than a single one of ours.
It wasn't a military operation, it was a corporate one, with a small underequipped mercenary force. A proper Human military would no doubt mow them down, or at least have artillery capable of dealing with those bloody animals.

Shouldn't a Corporation dealing with a potentially hostile target be at least well-equipped enough to take on aliens at pre-civilization levels of technology?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:09 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Indeed they were. The problem however is rooted in the Human traitor that warned the savages, united them and for some inexplicable reason summoned the entire fucking planet to assist.

The moral of the story seems to be "Don't negotiate with aliens, just shoot the fuckers or else one of your own guys will go native and fuck everything over."

Literal xenophobia, it's the swiss army knife of the future.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:17 pm

People aren't worth fighting for, let alone dying for.

Neither are women.

Man, even I didn't think it was as funny as it was in my head.

Seriously though, people inherently have the tendency to sometimes suck, this is simply another instance for us to observe, weep at a bit, let it enrage and provoke us, and forget about it when the cycle of media bequeaths onto us a major news story to discuss. Truly it is virtuous of those who can recall such lesser-known horrors while pondering in the future; never too easily forgetful.


Sad, an exemplification of how wretched humanity can be and why I take no chances in distrusting it overall.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:18 pm

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New Nicksyllvania wrote:And Hitler tried to stop people from smoking.

One good deed does not absolve someone.


And that's not a good deed. And it's fucking Godwin. Christ.


Godwin absolves everyone. Crist, how many times do I need to back these people up?

Also, yeah, controlling how people screw up their bodies because you want your Aryan race's respiratory system to be squeaky clean isn't a good deed. To say the least, especially considering the use of the word "tried," it was a "good" intention.
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Postby Lockswania » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:19 pm

This is terrible!
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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:21 pm

Lockswania wrote:This is terrible!


Why, yes it is, friend.
Should be obvious, correct?
Let the woe flicker.

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Postby Alevuss » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:25 pm

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US 'good Samaritan' left to die
A homeless man in New York City who was stabbed after coming to a woman's aid was left to die while passers-by ignored him, CCTV footage has shown.

Police said that at least 25 people walked past Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax as he bled to death on a pavement in Queens.

The 31-year-old from Guatemala was repeatedly stabbed by a man as he intervened during the attack last week.

The footage shows it was an hour and a half before somebody tried to rouse him and contacted the emergency services.

In the security camera video, a woman is followed by a man, who then appears to attack her.

Mr Tale-Yax walks toward them. Off-camera he is stabbed several times while trying to help the woman.

The camera captures the apparent attacker running away.

Mr Tale-Yax gives chase but collapses. He is seen lying in the street fatally wounded, as several people walk past him.

Relatives of Mr Tale-Yax said he had recently lost his job and his home.


For those who left him there, I don't consider them human.
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Postby New Amerik » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:56 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:You shouldn't need to use those sorts of weapons against spear tossing savages, what are we, sissies?

Better for a thousand bombs to be wasted than a single one of ours.
It wasn't a military operation, it was a corporate one, with a small underequipped mercenary force. A proper Human military would no doubt mow them down, or at least have artillery capable of dealing with those bloody animals.

Shouldn't a Corporation dealing with a potentially hostile target be at least well-equipped enough to take on aliens at pre-civilization levels of technology?


Indeed they were. The problem however is rooted in the Human traitor that warned the savages, united them and for some inexplicable reason summoned the entire fucking planet to assist.

The moral of the story seems to be "Don't negotiate with aliens, just shoot the fuckers or else one of your own guys will go native and fuck everything over."


I want to see you make a movie, Nicksyllvania, of Avatar. Except instead of some sissy corporation, it's New Nicksyllvania coming to Pandora.

And instead of those ugly as hell 3-d glasses, we should wear 3-d monocles with half red and half blue lens.
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Postby Robarya » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:01 pm

Sad story, but it is possible that none or few of the by-passers noticed that he was fatally wounded. I for one would admittedly not help an injured homeless man, knowing they are often potentially dangerous junkies and may be infected with various diseases, but I would certainly say that this one would have been worth saving, given his virtue.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:15 pm

I have nothing but sympathy for this poor man, and to those who are saying effectively that he was no loss because he was a homeless immigrant, I would ask why a human life is inherently worth less because the person in question lost their job in a recession or was born in another country.

I too would like to know where the woman he saved was and what she was doing while he was dying, but I don't want to make any unjustified assumption about her.

In any case, this man seems to have had more courage and empathy than a lot of other people (ie, those who walked by and left him lying there). I pray for him, and hope he rests in peace.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:16 pm

Robarya wrote:Sad story, but it is possible that none or few of the by-passers noticed that he was fatally wounded. I for one would admittedly not help an injured homeless man, knowing they are often potentially dangerous junkies and may be infected with various diseases, but I would certainly say that this one would have been worth saving, given his virtue.


All it takes to help is a 911 call. You don't have to come within ten feet of him.

Anyone who did not try to do that at least is guilty of a grossly immoral act.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:17 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:All it takes to help is a 911 call. You don't have to come within ten feet of him.

Anyone who did not try to do that at least is guilty of a grossly immoral act.

How did they know he was dying or wounded, rather than merely sleeping without close examination?
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