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Homeless Man left to die...

Postby Londim » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:58 am

after he helps a woman who was being attacked.

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A homeless man in New York City who was stabbed after coming to a woman's aid was left to die while passers-by ignored him, CCTV footage has shown.

Police said that at least 25 people walked past Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax as he bled to death on a pavement in Queens.

The 31-year-old from Guatemala was repeatedly stabbed by a man as he intervened during the attack last week.

The footage shows it was an hour and a half before somebody tried to rouse him and contacted the emergency services.

In the security camera video, a woman is followed by a man, who then appears to attack her.

Mr Tale-Yax walks toward them. Off-camera he is stabbed several times while trying to help the woman.

The camera captures the apparent attacker running away.

Mr Tale-Yax gives chase but collapses. He is seen lying in the street fatally wounded, as several people walk past him.

Relatives of Mr Tale-Yax said he had recently lost his job and his home.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8644413.stm


This just makes me sad and lose faith in humanity.
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Postby Hoyteca » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:05 am

You actually had faith in humanity? The only thing about this story that surprised me is that someone found such apathy newsworthy. Face it. People are selfish. The only way to get strangers to care about you is to be rich and/or famous.

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:05 am

I need to see the pictures/video but the usage of the word rouse suggest it might have appeared he was sleeping rather then injured. I generally do not wake the sleeping homeless.
I want to know where the woman he rescued was in all of this, someone in the course of saving you gets stabbed I think you owe them a call to 911 at the least.
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Postby Ravea » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:07 am

I've always seen the Bystander effect as one of the most powerful forces affecting humanity in general. Things like this don't surprise me at all.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:07 am

What happened to the woman he was helping?

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Postby Hoyteca » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:08 am

Fartsniffage wrote:What happened to the woman he was helping?

She probably went right back to not giving a damn.

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Postby Hayteria » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:08 am

I already saw part of a video about this story...

... question is, how would the people leaving him to die know he helped the woman who was being attacked? Not saying that makes leaving him to die ok, but I would think that it's a little more normal to leave a homeless person to die than to leave someone who just helped someone else to die...

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Postby Austria-russia » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:08 am

Londim wrote:after he helps a woman who was being attacked.

US 'good Samaritan' left to die
A homeless man in New York City who was stabbed after coming to a woman's aid was left to die while passers-by ignored him, CCTV footage has shown.

Police said that at least 25 people walked past Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax as he bled to death on a pavement in Queens.

The 31-year-old from Guatemala was repeatedly stabbed by a man as he intervened during the attack last week.

The footage shows it was an hour and a half before somebody tried to rouse him and contacted the emergency services.

In the security camera video, a woman is followed by a man, who then appears to attack her.

Mr Tale-Yax walks toward them. Off-camera he is stabbed several times while trying to help the woman.

the forum title sounds like an onion headline

The camera captures the apparent attacker running away.

Mr Tale-Yax gives chase but collapses. He is seen lying in the street fatally wounded, as several people walk past him.

Relatives of Mr Tale-Yax said he had recently lost his job and his home.


This just makes me sad and lose faith in humanity.

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Postby Flameswroth » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:08 am

man in New York City who was stabbed after coming to a woman's aid was left to die while passers-by ignored him, CCTV footage has shown.

How barbaric! I am completely appalled that we've reached a point wh-...wait...
homeless...from Guatemala

Oh, nevermind. No big deal.
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Postby Austria-russia » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:09 am

Austria-russia wrote:
Londim wrote:after he helps a woman who was being attacked.

US 'good Samaritan' left to die
A homeless man in New York City who was stabbed after coming to a woman's aid was left to die while passers-by ignored him, CCTV footage has shown.

Police said that at least 25 people walked past Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax as he bled to death on a pavement in Queens.

The 31-year-old from Guatemala was repeatedly stabbed by a man as he intervened during the attack last week.

The footage shows it was an hour and a half before somebody tried to rouse him and contacted the emergency services.

In the security camera video, a woman is followed by a man, who then appears to attack her.

Mr Tale-Yax walks toward them. Off-camera he is stabbed several times while trying to help the woman.

the forum title sounds like an onion headline

The camera captures the apparent attacker running away.

Mr Tale-Yax gives chase but collapses. He is seen lying in the street fatally wounded, as several people walk past him.

Relatives of Mr Tale-Yax said he had recently lost his job and his home.


This just makes me sad and lose faith in humanity.



it sounds like an onion headline

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:11 am

You see people this is why you don't get involved. Everyone else including the woman you rescued will leave you to die.
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Postby Dimoniquid » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:11 am

I wander if you would see that in England. -Hint hint-

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Postby Austria-russia » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:12 am

Dimoniquid wrote:I wander if you would see that in England. -Hint hint-

hint hint got hint hint

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Postby Makaar » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:12 am

Hoyteca wrote:You actually had faith in humanity? The only thing about this story that surprised me is that someone found such apathy newsworthy. Face it. People are selfish. The only way to get strangers to care about you is to be rich and/or famous.


Hold on, let's not forget that the homeless guy intervened to stop an attack. SOME people have their hearts in the right place. It's going to be fewer and fewer if this is the way we treat them.
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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:14 am

greed and death wrote:I need to see the pictures/video but the usage of the word rouse suggest it might have appeared he was sleeping rather then injured. I generally do not wake the sleeping homeless.

Sleeping after being stabbed several times? Dunno, you'd think one is able to see the difference.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:16 am

Ayreonia wrote:
greed and death wrote:I need to see the pictures/video but the usage of the word rouse suggest it might have appeared he was sleeping rather then injured. I generally do not wake the sleeping homeless.

Sleeping after being stabbed several times? Dunno, you'd think one is able to see the difference.

If he fell on top of his stab womb he would need to roll over for it to be obvious.
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Postby The chrisman union » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:19 am

Wow. That sucks. But could he have been saved even if he was roused quickly?
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:44 am

Hoyteca wrote:You actually had faith in humanity? The only thing about this story that surprised me is that someone found such apathy newsworthy. Face it. People are selfish. The only way to get strangers to care about you is to be rich and/or famous.

Agreed, rather pathetic this guy laid there for almost 10 hours before Emergency Services were even notified. Oh well Welcome to America I guess.
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Postby Astralsideria » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:50 am

I'm by no means an expert, but it seems to me that, were one to be stabbed, but not killed outright, one might stumble around for a while, and, when one eventually fell, one would land in such a way that one's wound (assuming it was in the front of the body) would be obscured from view without rolling the body over. As such, as has been said previously, it might seem to a passer-by that one was not dying but rather sleeping. Were this to be the case, a person could very easily be forgiven for not wanting to awaken a homeless person, as doing so could have dire consequences for one's health and well-being, if that homeless person had not had much sleep for days, and this was their first sleep for a very long time.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:53 am

Astralsideria wrote:I'm by no means an expert, but it seems to me that, were one to be stabbed, but not killed outright, one might stumble around for a while, and, when one eventually fell, one would land in such a way that one's wound (assuming it was in the front of the body) would be obscured from view without rolling the body over. As such, as has been said previously, it might seem to a passer-by that one was not dying but rather sleeping. Were this to be the case, a person could very easily be forgiven for not wanting to awaken a homeless person, as doing so could have dire consequences for one's health and well-being, if that homeless person had not had much sleep for days, and this was their first sleep for a very long time.

Except that isn't the case. I saw the video he fell down immediately upon being stabbed. People rolled him over and took pictures of him then walked on. It was almost 10 hours before someone gave a shit to call the Police to come scoop his dead corpse off the sidewalk.
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Postby Call to power » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:57 am

the bum clearly did it to get himself on camera and as such ignoring his pleas is the best medicine
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:03 pm

The people who walked by should be charged as Accesories to Murder.


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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:06 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:I'm by no means an expert, but it seems to me that, were one to be stabbed, but not killed outright, one might stumble around for a while, and, when one eventually fell, one would land in such a way that one's wound (assuming it was in the front of the body) would be obscured from view without rolling the body over. As such, as has been said previously, it might seem to a passer-by that one was not dying but rather sleeping. Were this to be the case, a person could very easily be forgiven for not wanting to awaken a homeless person, as doing so could have dire consequences for one's health and well-being, if that homeless person had not had much sleep for days, and this was their first sleep for a very long time.

Except that isn't the case. I saw the video he fell down immediately upon being stabbed. People rolled him over and took pictures of him then walked on. It was almost 10 hours before someone gave a shit to call the Police to come scoop his dead corpse off the sidewalk.


Seriously, took pictures of him. :palm:

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:09 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:I'm by no means an expert, but it seems to me that, were one to be stabbed, but not killed outright, one might stumble around for a while, and, when one eventually fell, one would land in such a way that one's wound (assuming it was in the front of the body) would be obscured from view without rolling the body over. As such, as has been said previously, it might seem to a passer-by that one was not dying but rather sleeping. Were this to be the case, a person could very easily be forgiven for not wanting to awaken a homeless person, as doing so could have dire consequences for one's health and well-being, if that homeless person had not had much sleep for days, and this was their first sleep for a very long time.

Except that isn't the case. I saw the video he fell down immediately upon being stabbed. People rolled him over and took pictures of him then walked on. It was almost 10 hours before someone gave a shit to call the Police to come scoop his dead corpse off the sidewalk.


Seriously, took pictures of him. :palm:

Yeah they did it was disgusting. Some dude took a bunch of pictures with his cell then went on his merry way. Honestly I hate humanity so much at times I don't get why we even bother as a species.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:12 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:I'm by no means an expert, but it seems to me that, were one to be stabbed, but not killed outright, one might stumble around for a while, and, when one eventually fell, one would land in such a way that one's wound (assuming it was in the front of the body) would be obscured from view without rolling the body over. As such, as has been said previously, it might seem to a passer-by that one was not dying but rather sleeping. Were this to be the case, a person could very easily be forgiven for not wanting to awaken a homeless person, as doing so could have dire consequences for one's health and well-being, if that homeless person had not had much sleep for days, and this was their first sleep for a very long time.

Except that isn't the case. I saw the video he fell down immediately upon being stabbed. People rolled him over and took pictures of him then walked on. It was almost 10 hours before someone gave a shit to call the Police to come scoop his dead corpse off the sidewalk.

Why would you watch video of someone being killed?
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