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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 pm

Novus America wrote:


Okay, the regular German military still used it but is was no longer the official motto. Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit was the German motto after WWI.

And it is still more associated with WWI rather than WWII. It is definitely not a specifically WWII thing.


God, you still don't get it. Context dude, context. Read back in the conversation and see if you can figure it out.

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Postby Novus America » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Okay, the regular German military still used it but is was no longer the official motto. Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit was the German motto after WWI.

And it is still more associated with WWI rather than WWII. It is definitely not a specifically WWII thing.


God, you still don't get it. Context dude, context. Read back in the conversation and see if you can figure it out.


Even in the original context I still do not see it, (because that motto is more associated with the Kingdom of Prussia/the German Empire) but it is off topic anyways.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:17 pm

Coronavirus: More than 80 applications for Twelfth marches

The Parades Commission has received more than 80 applications for marches to celebrate the Twelfth.

There has been a sudden increase in applications - mainly by bands - since the restrictions on outdoor gatherings were eased.

The regulations now allow for up to 30 people to gather outside, provided social distancing can be observed.

The number continues to rise with 84 applications on the Parades Commission website as of 15:00 BST on Thursday.

At 10:00, 71 applications had been made.

'Twelfth at home'
Among the areas where applications have been made are Ballymena, Enniskillen, Newtownards, Randalstown, Kilkeel and Belfast.

The Twelfth is being celebrated on 13 July as 12 July this year falls on a Sunday.

In early April, the Orange Order cancelled all its traditional Twelfth parades due to the Covid-19 restrictions on public gatherings.

The Orange Order confirmed on Wednesday that these parades will not take place, and instead advised its members to celebrate the occasion at home.


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I bet you some people have been spurred on by the recent republican/loyalist funeral attendances.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:31 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Coronavirus: More than 80 applications for Twelfth marches

The Parades Commission has received more than 80 applications for marches to celebrate the Twelfth.

There has been a sudden increase in applications - mainly by bands - since the restrictions on outdoor gatherings were eased.

The regulations now allow for up to 30 people to gather outside, provided social distancing can be observed.

The number continues to rise with 84 applications on the Parades Commission website as of 15:00 BST on Thursday.

At 10:00, 71 applications had been made.

'Twelfth at home'
Among the areas where applications have been made are Ballymena, Enniskillen, Newtownards, Randalstown, Kilkeel and Belfast.

The Twelfth is being celebrated on 13 July as 12 July this year falls on a Sunday.

In early April, the Orange Order cancelled all its traditional Twelfth parades due to the Covid-19 restrictions on public gatherings.

The Orange Order confirmed on Wednesday that these parades will not take place, and instead advised its members to celebrate the occasion at home.


STAY THE FUCK HOME FOR TALOS SAKE

I bet you some people have been spurred on by the recent republican/loyalist funeral attendances.

By the nine. Just open up a goddam skype or zoom call and get hammered if you wanna celebrate.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:40 am

I must admit I never knew monkey labour was even a thing.

Carrie Symonds urges retailers to stop selling products that use monkey labour

Apparently it is about monkeys used to pick coconuts, rather than a simian offshoot of the Labour Party.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:51 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I must admit I never knew monkey labour was even a thing.

Carrie Symonds urges retailers to stop selling products that use monkey labour

Apparently it is about monkeys used to pick coconuts, rather than a simian offshoot of the Labour Party.


oh pfft. unless there's some serious abuse there is absolutely nothing wrong with monkey labour. what's next? no horse labour? no dog labour? if you wanna go full vegan and free the animals then go ahead but somehow i doubt the people complaining about this are actually gonna do it. and that's not even addressing the more obvious issue of people literally enslaving animals and killing their children so they can get their bacon.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:52 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I must admit I never knew monkey labour was even a thing.

Carrie Symonds urges retailers to stop selling products that use monkey labour

Apparently it is about monkeys used to pick coconuts, rather than a simian offshoot of the Labour Party.


There goes my business of selling copies of Shakespeare's work :(
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:50 am

The FBI is nicely asking Prince Andrew to "take a seat, just take a seat right over here" as a result of their interrogation of Maxwell, after her arrest in connection to Epstein.

So I'm guessing the usual "Nothing" will happen as a result and the UK will just ignore the requests. The US will not be me forceful in their request. Prince Andrew will get away with it and no politicians will call him out on it, not even Starmer or Sturgeon.

We can have someone campaign to make Scotland independent, but we can't challenge the global elite.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:24 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:The FBI is nicely asking Prince Andrew to "take a seat, just take a seat right over here" as a result of their interrogation of Maxwell, after her arrest in connection to Epstein.

So I'm guessing the usual "Nothing" will happen as a result and the UK will just ignore the requests. The US will not be me forceful in their request. Prince Andrew will get away with it and no politicians will call him out on it, not even Starmer or Sturgeon.

We can have someone campaign to make Scotland independent, but we can't challenge the global elite.


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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:27 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The FBI is nicely asking Prince Andrew to "take a seat, just take a seat right over here" as a result of their interrogation of Maxwell, after her arrest in connection to Epstein.

So I'm guessing the usual "Nothing" will happen as a result and the UK will just ignore the requests. The US will not be me forceful in their request. Prince Andrew will get away with it and no politicians will call him out on it, not even Starmer or Sturgeon.

We can have someone campaign to make Scotland independent, but we can't challenge the global elite.


Prince Andrew should be stripped of his titles and formally disowned by the royal family. It’s very disappointing that they’re keeping him.


He's like the royal family's old, broken pet. Disapppointing but still they keep him.

Of course, most pets don't hang around with the likes of Epstein.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:43 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Prince Andrew should be stripped of his titles and formally disowned by the royal family. It’s very disappointing that they’re keeping him.


He's like the royal family's old, broken pet. Disapppointing but still they keep him.

Of course, most pets don't hang around with the likes of Epstein.

Or have sex with 17 yeat old girls.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:45 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Prince Andrew should be stripped of his titles and formally disowned by the royal family. It’s very disappointing that they’re keeping him.


He's like the royal family's old, broken pet. Disapppointing but still they keep him.

Of course, most pets don't hang around with the likes of Epstein.


He used to be the queen's favorite too.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:22 am

Agarntrop wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
He's like the royal family's old, broken pet. Disapppointing but still they keep him.

Of course, most pets don't hang around with the likes of Epstein.

Or have sex with 17 yeat old girls.


That would have been perfectly legal if he'd done it in the UK.

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Postby Philjia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:56 am

Michelle O'Neill has issued a statement regarding her attending that funeral.

Bit of a non-apology, might be enough for the SDLP but I suspect that the DUP won't be satisfied.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:25 am

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Agarntrop wrote:Or have sex with 17 yeat old girls.


That would have been perfectly legal if he'd done it in the UK.

Age of consent is 18 in parts of the US including where it happened iirc
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Postby Hirota » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:30 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:The FBI is nicely asking Prince Andrew to "take a seat, just take a seat right over here" as a result of their interrogation of Maxwell, after her arrest in connection to Epstein.

So I'm guessing the usual "Nothing" will happen as a result and the UK will just ignore the requests. The US will not be me forceful in their request. Prince Andrew will get away with it and no politicians will call him out on it, not even Starmer or Sturgeon.

We can have someone campaign to make Scotland independent, but we can't challenge the global elite.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:32 am

Hirota wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The FBI is nicely asking Prince Andrew to "take a seat, just take a seat right over here" as a result of their interrogation of Maxwell, after her arrest in connection to Epstein.

So I'm guessing the usual "Nothing" will happen as a result and the UK will just ignore the requests. The US will not be me forceful in their request. Prince Andrew will get away with it and no politicians will call him out on it, not even Starmer or Sturgeon.

We can have someone campaign to make Scotland independent, but we can't challenge the global elite.
Swap him for Anne Sacoolas.

I was thinking that too
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:09 am

Alyakia wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I must admit I never knew monkey labour was even a thing.

Carrie Symonds urges retailers to stop selling products that use monkey labour

Apparently it is about monkeys used to pick coconuts, rather than a simian offshoot of the Labour Party.


oh pfft. unless there's some serious abuse there is absolutely nothing wrong with monkey labour. what's next? no horse labour? no dog labour? if you wanna go full vegan and free the animals then go ahead but somehow i doubt the people complaining about this are actually gonna do it. and that's not even addressing the more obvious issue of people literally enslaving animals and killing their children so they can get their bacon.

Wasn't there some research done a while ago that showed monkeys enjoyed small goal-based tasks?

Unless they're forcing them to do it inhumanely, I'm not seing the issue. Sometimes animals enjoy doing work. What's next, guide dogs are evil?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:52 am

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Agarntrop wrote:Or have sex with 17 yeat old girls.


That would have been perfectly legal if he'd done it in the UK.


No because she was paid. Sex with a prostitute requires 18 in the UK.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/47

Age of consent in New York is also 17 the issue would be prostitution, transporting her across state and international borders.

Most the US age of consent is 16 or 17. But there are exceptions for prostitutes, state lines, position of authority etc.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:57 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
That would have been perfectly legal if he'd done it in the UK.


No because she was paid. Sex with a prostitute requires 18 in the UK.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/47

Age of consent in New York is also 17 the issue would be prostitution, transporting her across state and international borders.

Most the US age of consent is 16 or 17. But there are exceptions for prostitutes, state lines, position of authority etc.

Prostitution is also banned in the US completely regardless of age outside of Nevada
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:42 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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oh pfft. unless there's some serious abuse there is absolutely nothing wrong with monkey labour. what's next? no horse labour? no dog labour? if you wanna go full vegan and free the animals then go ahead but somehow i doubt the people complaining about this are actually gonna do it. and that's not even addressing the more obvious issue of people literally enslaving animals and killing their children so they can get their bacon.

Wasn't there some research done a while ago that showed monkeys enjoyed small goal-based tasks?

Unless they're forcing them to do it inhumanely, I'm not seing the issue. Sometimes animals enjoy doing work. What's next, guide dogs are evil?


Low-key agree with you but only if there is a qualified and certified carer on the premises for the animals to ensure they aren't being abused and to look after their interests and health and so on. Ideally they'd be the one to also train and instruct the animals on what is required of them, and be the one to initiate the tasks through orders and such.

I'm not strictly opposed to it provided animal welfare is observed.

A company deciding to hire such a person couldn't then order them to do something negative for the animals without the person refusing, or agreeing (And if discovered, losing their certification, making it illegal to hire them for this purpose in future).
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Who's ready for a second spike?

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:44 am

Celritannia wrote:Who's ready for a second spike?


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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:46 am

Celritannia wrote:Who's ready for a second spike?


But how can there be a second spike with all that clapping people did?
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