UK Politics Thread XII: The Lockdown

[The New California Republic]

And again such a thing was entirely preventable if there had been adequate intervention and not cutting his benefits.

What intervention would you suggest? Literally dragging him to an assessment?

Sectioning someone is a thing.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

What intervention would you suggest? Literally dragging him to an assessment?

Sectioning someone is a thing.

And is something I've always disagreed with due to the implications for personal autonomy.

[Imperial Joseon]

So, how does it feel to have considerably less influence on global politics than we did five years ago?

Britain will join the EU again. Their economy won't handle anymore.

[The New California Republic]

Sectioning someone is a thing.

And is something I've always disagreed with due to the implications for personal autonomy.

If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

And is something I've always disagreed with due to the implications for personal autonomy.

If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.

Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.

[Imperial Joseon]

If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.

Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.

Well, is that the law of Britain? That's the question. Euthanasia is allowed in Switzerland, at least.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.

Well, is that the law of Britain? That's the question. Euthanasia is allowed in Switzerland, at least.

Sadly we don't have that in Britain. It's obviously legal to kill yourself though, because what are they going to do to stop you.

[The New California Republic]

If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.

Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.

Nonsense, as this is not intentional, there is no active will to die in this case. He starved to death because his benefits were cut.

[Imperial Joseon]

Well, is that the law of Britain? That's the question. Euthanasia is allowed in Switzerland, at least.

Sadly we don't have that in Britain. It's obviously legal to kill yourself though, because what are they going to do to stop you.

Honestly, the only thing I yearn in Britain is EPL, because of this.

[Albennia]

If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.

Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.

He starved to death jesus christ

Well, is that the law of Britain? That's the question. Euthanasia is allowed in Switzerland, at least.

Sadly we don't have that in Britain. It's obviously legal to kill yourself though, because what are they going to do to stop you.

Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.

[Imperial Joseon]

Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.

What do you mean?

[Albennia]

Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.

What do you mean?

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

[Bienenhalde]

brexit is a globalist project

did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe

Economically that might be desirable in many ways tbh.

Singapores government owns all the land, and allocates the housing to citizens if they don't have one, producing a 90% home owner rate. Its schools are vigorously meritocratic and they've got laws to pressure private schools into being mostly public ones for bright students, with only a minority being paid placements.
Adults get free education and funds are set aside for them to train with.

They frequently do automatic "Quality of life" consumer good deposits. This year the government decided everyone needs a HD Digital TV, and so everyone got a voucher specifically for this purpose which the government promised companies they would exchange for money. (This is controversial, as some people allege it's crony capitalism and often the consumer goods the government up and decides everyone needs lines up pretty suspiciously with financial interests in bed with the government, however, imo, it's a step above our current "We'll give them money, and you get literally nothing" system. At least in Singapore, they get a free high quality tv. Applying it here it'd be like; "Oh, we're going to hire private security for every street corner now I guess. Also, suddenly, the trains are free. Just don't look too hard at the corporate subsidies this entails.", which doesn't sound too bad.)

None of this is means tested either.


I sorely doubt our government wants to actually be Singapore.

Sounds pretty good me. Why couldn't Britain implement those policies?

[Imperial Joseon]

What do you mean?

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

The conflict is: Extremely painful life versus painless death.

[Albennia]

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

The conflict is: Extremely painful life versus painless death.

nope, nope

[The Blaatschapen]

What do you mean?

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

Source? Prefaribly Dutch, since foreign media tends to lose nuance when it comes to foreign speak.

[Albennia]

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

Source? Prefaribly Dutch, since foreign media tends to lose nuance when it comes to foreign speak.

I'm referring to this case. I don't speak Dutch so I don't have a Dutch source.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Nigel Farage waving a small uk flag in the EU parliament with a big stupid smile on his face.

Guess i cant blame him for getting himself off

[Purgatio]

Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.

He starved to death jesus christ

Sadly we don't have that in Britain. It's obviously legal to kill yourself though, because what are they going to do to stop you.

Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.

Why fortunate? What on Earth's wrong with voluntary euthanasia, as long as its consensual and not under duress or undue influence? Why is it any of your business to force someone to stay alive against their will?

[Fartsniffage]

What do you mean?

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

If you think it doesn't already happen in the UK then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I know for a fact that a nurse euthanised my uncle. And there was no legal system in place to make sure it was the right decision. Just a brief conversation with my father and other uncle then a quick fiddle with the morphine machine. Dead less than an hour later.

Keeping it illegal just pushes it into the shadows putting patients at risk of abuse and medical staff at risk when they do the right thing.

[The New California Republic]

He starved to death jesus christ


Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.

Why fortunate? What on Earth's wrong with voluntary euthanasia, as long as its consensual and not under duress or undue influence? Why is it any of your business to force someone to stay alive against their will?

Except it wasn't what happened in this instance.

[Nakena]

WIll capital punishment and hanging be re-introduced?

*Rotherham glows omniously in the background*

Why would it be?

Because Boris and the Tories hellbend on bringing back the old ways to make a point and generally doing the reactionary.

[Albennia]

He starved to death jesus christ


Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.

Why fortunate? What on Earth's wrong with voluntary euthanasia, as long as its consensual and not under duress or undue influence? Why is it any of your business to force someone to stay alive against their will?

Because it's one of the very few cases where the slippery slope argument is true.

[Albennia]

Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.

If you think it doesn't already happen in the UK then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I know for a fact that a nurse euthanised my uncle. And there was no legal system in place to make sure it was the right decision. Just a brief conversation with my father and other uncle then a quick fiddle with the morphine machine. Dead less than an hour later.

Keep it illegal just pushes it into the shadows putting patients at risk of abuse and medical staff at risk when they do the right thing.

Yeah that was definitely not the right thing

[Samudera Darussalam]

Why would it be?

Because BoJo and the Tories hellbend on bringing back the old ways to make a point and generally doing the reactionary.

How far will it be? Should we wear corset and stupid oversized white wig now due to it being customary in the past?