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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

Yes
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67%
No
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17%
No *vote amended by GRU*
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Total votes : 83

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:59 pm

Northern Great States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Shit for brains" is a gender neutral term which is appropriate for any human. Give it a try. Call your loved ones "shit for brains". Call your boss "shit for brains". I'm sure they'll all understand once you explain that it's gender neutral.

Calling someone "they" isn't an insult though.

Haha come on, man.

Calling someone "Alexander" when they prefer "Boris" isn't an insult either, but no one does it.
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Postby Northern Great States » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:17 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Great States wrote:Calling someone "they" isn't an insult though.

Haha come on, man.

Calling someone "Alexander" when they prefer "Boris" isn't an insult either, but no one does it.

Calling someone Bill who's name is William is pretty commonplace, isn't an insult and isn't meant to be one.

Next easily refutable argument, please.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:00 pm

Northern Great States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Calling someone "Alexander" when they prefer "Boris" isn't an insult either, but no one does it.

Calling someone Bill who's name is William is pretty commonplace, isn't an insult and isn't meant to be one.

Next easily refutable argument, please.

Do you know who the Prime Minister of the UK is?
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Postby Northern Great States » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:06 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Great States wrote:Calling someone Bill who's name is William is pretty commonplace, isn't an insult and isn't meant to be one.

Next easily refutable argument, please.

Do you know who the Prime Minister of the UK is?

The other Trump? Yes.

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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:07 pm

Northern Great States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do you know who the Prime Minister of the UK is?

The other Trump? Yes.


Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
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Postby Northern Great States » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:11 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Northern Great States wrote:The other Trump? Yes.


Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Ah, I didn't know that was his full name.

He doesn't like being called Alexander? Oh well. It's his legal name.

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:17 am

Ifreann wrote:On the contrary, most of British society is quite happy to respect people's wishes about how to refer to them, so long as those wishes aren't wildly outside the norm
Sure.

I didn't dispute that.

What is an insane fringe view is that not doing it constitutes a grand offence similar to the most heinous racist or sexist commentary: that "they" is something similar to words which are censored on this forum, when in reality it is the just a second person plural.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:23 am

Northern Great States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Do you know who the Prime Minister of the UK is?

The other Trump? Yes.

There's a nightmare scenario: Trump, Johnson and Duterte combining into Trumpestator.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:58 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Ifreann wrote:On the contrary, most of British society is quite happy to respect people's wishes about how to refer to them, so long as those wishes aren't wildly outside the norm
Sure.

I didn't dispute that.

What is an insane fringe view is that not doing it constitutes a grand offence similar to the most heinous racist or sexist commentary: that "they" is something similar to words which are censored on this forum, when in reality it is the just a second person plural.


Call the police, we need to report a theyte crime.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:00 am

Gormwood wrote:
Northern Great States wrote:The other Trump? Yes.

There's a nightmare scenario: Trump, Johnson and Duterte combining into Trumpestator.


Alien vs Trumpestator was a terrible film.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:48 am

Northern Great States wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Ah, I didn't know that was his full name.


i didn t either.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:05 am

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I don't see the connection there.

You mean you don't believe that the connection exists or that you don't understand why Vass would hold such views? If it's the latter then I'd say the same for much of what Vass says.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:57 am

Northern Great States wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Ah, I didn't know that was his full name.

He doesn't like being called Alexander? Oh well. It's his legal name.


No it isn't: there's no such thing.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:27 am

Gormwood wrote:
Northern Great States wrote:The other Trump? Yes.

There's a nightmare scenario: Trump, Johnson and Duterte combining into Trumpestator.


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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:26 am

Of course allegations that the security services don't trust Priti Patel must come entirely from misogyny, rather than her history of having been forced to resign as a minister for having undisclosed meetings with representatives of a foreign state.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:27 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Of course allegations that the security services don't trust Priti Patel must come entirely from misogyny, rather than her history of having been forced to resign as a minister for having undisclosed meetings with representatives of a foreign state.

I'd have plumped for xenophobia/racism as the superficial issue for Priti with regards to the security services.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:16 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Ifreann wrote:On the contrary, most of British society is quite happy to respect people's wishes about how to refer to them, so long as those wishes aren't wildly outside the norm
Sure.

I didn't dispute that.

What is an insane fringe view is that not doing it constitutes a grand offence similar to the most heinous racist or sexist commentary: that "they" is something similar to words which are censored on this forum, when in reality it is the just a second person plural.

Something no one here is doing. Cool.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:44 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Northern Great States wrote:The other Trump? Yes.


Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

And long may he govern.

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Postby New Bremerton » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:24 am

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/2 ... h-indians/

More and more British Indians flock to the Conservatives by the day. British Pakistanis and Bangladeshis remain shackled to woke Labour because muh Islamophobia.

I guess the same is also true for British Chinese?
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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:26 am

New Bremerton wrote:https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/20/the-lefts-problem-with-british-indians/

More and more British Indians flock to the Conservatives by the day. British Pakistanis and Bangladeshis remain shackled to woke Labour because muh Islamophobia.

I guess the same is also true for British Chinese?


they went from being lower class and outside of the group now they're upper class and inside of the group. nothing remarkable.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:26 am

Souseiseki wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/20/the-lefts-problem-with-british-indians/

More and more British Indians flock to the Conservatives by the day. British Pakistanis and Bangladeshis remain shackled to woke Labour because muh Islamophobia.

I guess the same is also true for British Chinese?


they went from being lower class and outside of the group now they're upper class and inside of the group. nothing remarkable.


Also something about Labour being evil for supporting a free Kashmir.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:39 am

If a party doesn't support the controversial foreign policy of a country that an immigrant community retains strong ties with, that doesn't mean the party has a "problem" with that group, doesn't make them phobic or whatever.

Britain needs its own foreign policy. Minorities who try to dictate policy with fake social-justice victim-tinted fifth columnism should be told to shut up and sit down, preferably on a plane back to the country they're still loyal to.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:43 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:If a party doesn't support the controversial foreign policy of a country that an immigrant community retains strong ties with, that doesn't mean the party has a "problem" with that group, doesn't make them phobic or whatever.

Britain needs its own foreign policy. Minorities who try to dictate then with fake social-justice tinted fifth columnism should be told to shut up and sit down, preferably on a plane back to the country they're still loyal to.

But DI, the minority group that's dictating government policy isn't immigrants, it's billionaire media moguls.
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A great analysis of the Anglesey Crossbow Murder, that the PM had appealed for information from the public in relation to. It really provides a valuable insight into modern day justice and murder investigations in the UK regarding the use of technology as evidence.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:If a party doesn't support the controversial foreign policy of a country that an immigrant community retains strong ties with, that doesn't mean the party has a "problem" with that group, doesn't make them phobic or whatever.

Britain needs its own foreign policy. Minorities who try to dictate then with fake social-justice tinted fifth columnism should be told to shut up and sit down, preferably on a plane back to the country they're still loyal to.

But DI, the minority group that's dictating government policy isn't immigrants, it's billionaire media moguls.


Yes well they're also being very naughty boys and the revolution will undoubtedly have something to say about that as well.
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