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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:31 pm
by An Alan Smithee Nation
No sympathy for the government from any of the papers on this mornings front pages. The Daily Mail portraying Johnson and Williamson as Laurel and Hardy...

It will also mean a whole load of young voters already pissed off at the Conservative Party. Johnson is actually making May seem strong and stable in retrospect.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:56 pm
by Celritannia
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:No sympathy for the government from any of the papers on this mornings front pages. The Daily Mail portraying Johnson and Williamson as Laurel and Hardy...

It will also mean a whole load of young voters already pissed off at the Conservative Party. Johnson is actually making May seem strong and stable in retrospect.


That's harsh on Laurel and Hardy.

Johnson and Cummings pulled too many of the metaphorical Jenga pieces out of the already wobbly tower May left behind.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:56 pm
by The Free Joy State
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:No sympathy for the government from any of the papers on this mornings front pages. The Daily Mail portraying Johnson and Williamson as Laurel and Hardy...

It will also mean a whole load of young voters already pissed off at the Conservative Party. Johnson is actually making May seem strong and stable in retrospect.

I'm reminded (sorry, Arch -- this may be painful) of young voters' punishing the Lib Dems for voting to raise tuition fees while in coalition. The percentage of young people who would vote Lib Dem dropped from 44% in 2010 (pre-coalition) to 13% in 2014.

Johnson and Co. should probably not be so careless about aggravating potential voters. Not to mention that I think it likely that voters from those traditionally Labour working class areas (all those loaned votes they needed to win) will remember that it was (in the main) their children who got screwed over, their children's futures that were messed around with...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:12 am
by The Archregimancy
The Free Joy State wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:No sympathy for the government from any of the papers on this mornings front pages. The Daily Mail portraying Johnson and Williamson as Laurel and Hardy...

It will also mean a whole load of young voters already pissed off at the Conservative Party. Johnson is actually making May seem strong and stable in retrospect.

I'm reminded (sorry, Arch -- this may be painful) of young voters' punishing the Lib Dems for voting to raise tuition fees while in coalition.


Don't worry, I amputated that limb some time ago.

It only brings me phantom pain now.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:14 am
by The Blaatschapen
The Archregimancy wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:I'm reminded (sorry, Arch -- this may be painful) of young voters' punishing the Lib Dems for voting to raise tuition fees while in coalition.


Don't worry, I amputated that limb some time ago.

It only brings me phantom pain now.


Ghosted, like Nick Clegg.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:24 am
by The New California Republic
The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Don't worry, I amputated that limb some time ago.

It only brings me phantom pain now.


Ghosted, like Nick Clegg.

I preferred The Right Honourable Lord Campbell of Pittenweem anyway.

I might be a bit biased though as he did a favour for my Father years back...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:31 am
by North American Imperial State
The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Don't worry, I amputated that limb some time ago.

It only brings me phantom pain now.


Ghosted, like Nick Clegg.

Ahh Mr facebook man

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:32 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Have to see if young people’s anger will translate into in the next election or not

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:52 am
by Greed and Death
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have to see if young people’s anger will translate into in the next election or not


Years away they likely will forget and vote Tory by then.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:53 am
by The Blaatschapen
Greed and Death wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have to see if young people’s anger will translate into in the next election or not


Years away they likely will forget and vote Tory by then.


Assuming that they vote at all.

You're so hopeful about today's youth :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:03 am
by Loben III
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have to see if young people’s anger will translate into in the next election or not


More likely they’ll post about it on twitter or Facebook.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:26 am
by Greed and Death
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
Years away they likely will forget and vote Tory by then.


Assuming that they vote at all.

You're so hopeful about today's youth :)


I for one welcome one party Tory rule.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:20 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have to see if young people’s anger will translate into in the next election or not


I suspect that those young people who are 16/17/18 during this pandemic, will feel the effects of their missed schooling for a long time. Employers may prefer to take on people whose grades weren't estimated.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:27 am
by Ostroeuropa
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Have to see if young people’s anger will translate into in the next election or not


I suspect that those young people who are 16/17/18 during this pandemic, will feel the effects of their missed schooling for a long time. Employers may prefer to take on people whose grades weren't estimated.


There's not many jobs that take A level results is there? it's pretty much GCSE's or degree now I thought.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:38 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
Ostroeuropa wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
I suspect that those young people who are 16/17/18 during this pandemic, will feel the effects of their missed schooling for a long time. Employers may prefer to take on people whose grades weren't estimated.


There's not many jobs that take A level results is there? it's pretty much GCSE's or degree now I thought.


The jobs don't need to be decided on the basis of A level results. If employers get a lot of applications for a job they will use anything that conveniently narrows the field.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:47 am
by The New California Republic
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:There's not many jobs that take A level results is there? it's pretty much GCSE's or degree now I thought.


The jobs don't need to be decided on the basis of A level results. If employers get a lot of applications for a job they will use anything that conveniently narrows the field.

Personality counts for a lot. All other things being equal, they will pick a cheerful person over someone who is dead inside.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:52 am
by Ifreann
The New California Republic wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
The jobs don't need to be decided on the basis of A level results. If employers get a lot of applications for a job they will use anything that conveniently narrows the field.

Personality counts for a lot. All other things being equal, they will pick a cheerful person over someone who is dead inside.

I would think that most employers would prefer someone who's dead inside, as they'll fit in with the office culture.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:58 am
by The New California Republic
Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Personality counts for a lot. All other things being equal, they will pick a cheerful person over someone who is dead inside.

I would think that most employers would prefer someone who's dead inside, as they'll fit in with the office culture.

That's a consequence not a prerequisite.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:59 am
by Greed and Death
Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Personality counts for a lot. All other things being equal, they will pick a cheerful person over someone who is dead inside.

I would think that most employers would prefer someone who's dead inside, as they'll fit in with the office culture.


I miss the old days where the job interview was going for drinks and doing blow off strippers. Office culture was far more interesting then.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:02 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
The New California Republic wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
The jobs don't need to be decided on the basis of A level results. If employers get a lot of applications for a job they will use anything that conveniently narrows the field.

Personality counts for a lot. All other things being equal, they will pick a cheerful person over someone who is dead inside.


If you are still at the stage of whittling 2000 applications down to a number of people to interview personality is not counting for much at all.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:03 am
by Dumb Ideologies
The New California Republic wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
The jobs don't need to be decided on the basis of A level results. If employers get a lot of applications for a job they will use anything that conveniently narrows the field.

Personality counts for a lot. All other things being equal, they will pick a cheerful person over someone who is dead inside.


Grump Livelihoods Matter

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:05 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
Relentlessly cheery people are a fucking pain to work with. Everyone ends up hating them.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:07 am
by The New California Republic
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Relentlessly cheery people are a fucking pain to work with. Everyone ends up hating them.

As with everything there are limits, someone who is pathologically cheery might have serious issues.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:10 am
by Dumb Ideologies
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Relentlessly cheery people are a fucking pain to work with. Everyone ends up hating them.


Only positive energy. Isn't the merger proposal exciting? So many opportunities to meet new people in the dole queue #blessed

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:42 am
by The Archregimancy
I stand as evidence that it's possible to succeed in your chosen career without any secondary school qualifications at all.

For complicated reasons that have to do with attending secondary school in three very different school systems (private school in Scotland, and public schools in the US and Iceland), I never finished school in any of them.


That said, I'm not necessarily evidence that it's easy, and I was obviously highly unusual given my international childhood; and by the time you have a doctorate, nobody particular cares about secondary school qualifications anyway.