UK Politics Thread XII: The Lockdown

[Samudera Darussalam]

Apparently if you have cancer then the NHS will pay for a gym membership at a local gym so you can build some muscle before they start chemo. How awesome is that?

Eh, that's cool indeed.

new poll showing support for scottish independence at 52%

the magic number

What would said process be called, Scexit? That sounds wrong...

ScOut. Scotland Out

[Gormwood]

new poll showing support for scottish independence at 52%

the magic number

e: oh and a comfortable predicted win for pro-independence parties at the next scottish parliament election

The balkanization begins.

[Alvecia]

new poll showing support for scottish independence at 52%

the magic number

What would said process be called, Scexit? That sounds wrong...

Sounds like that Jim Henson puppet

[The Free Joy State]

What would said process be called, Scexit? That sounds wrong...

ScOut. Scotland Out

The "Och-y-Cokie"?

You take Scotland out; you put Scotland in,
Out the UK, into Europe,
Shake it all about.
You hope to join the EU when you turn around
'Cos that's what it's all about.

Although, while Tusk says that European leaders feel "empathetic" to the thought of a newly independent Scotland wanting to join the EU, they say Scotland would not be automatically accepted, and there would be obligations like any other sovereign nation joining the EU.

Of course, a different government may be happier to accept obligations and make treaties than the UK government is proving to be.

[Vassenor]

We need to reassess police powers over protest, says Michael Gove

So now the Government has decided it needs the power to ban protests that fit the vague category of "serious public disorder".

In short, fuck no.

[Chan Island]

We need to reassess police powers over protest, says Michael Gove

So now the Government has decided it needs the power to ban protests that fit the vague category of "serious public disorder".

In short, fuck no.

But disruption and inconvenience is the entire point of protest. This is just authoritarian control freakery just like everything else this government has been doing.

Except of course releasing dangerous madmen out of prison so we can all be shocked when the crazy madman who boasted about stabbing people in prison then goes and stabs people in the streets.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We need to reassess police powers over protest, says Michael Gove

So now the Government has decided it needs the power to ban protests that fit the vague category of "serious public disorder".

In short, fuck no.

Police really don't need any more powers than they already have. Reassessing in the opposite direction is what's needed.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

That's gonna mean a bunch of legal challenges. Not on the Parole Board bit, but on the increase from half to two thirds.

I would imagine it'd be legally sound if it only applied to future offenders.

[Cekoviu]

new poll showing support for scottish independence at 52%

the magic number

What would said process be called, Scexit? That sounds wrong...

Listed in order of quality: Glasgout, Scotdaddle, Squitland

[Fartsniffage]

What would said process be called, Scexit? That sounds wrong...

Listed in order of quality: Glasgout, Scotdaddle, Squitland

Edin-out.

Scotfree.

[Rojava Free State]

We need to reassess police powers over protest, says Michael Gove

So now the Government has decided it needs the power to ban protests that fit the vague category of "serious public disorder".

In short, fuck no.

You mean that just like Australia, France and America, England has just decided to further stray from its history as a free country?

Why am I not surprised?

[Celritannia]

And Tory fascism continues

[Rojava Free State]

And Tory fascism continues

Imagine if brexit somehow led to a Britain similar to the one in V is for Vendetta

[Albennia]

And Tory fascism continues

That's not fascism.

[The Free Joy State]

And Tory fascism continues

Restricting the opportunities for scrutiny by a free press... a move straight from Trump's playbook.

I can't say I'm surprised. This, after all, is the government that shouts "parliamentary sovereignty" while denying MPs the power to scrutinise trade deals.

No government should flinch from oversight and rigorous questions. They that do generally need it more than others.

I hope the EU do try to protect British citizens and work to ensure the UK remains under the protection of the Convention of Human Rights. God knows, they're vital.

[Vassenor]

And Tory fascism continues

That's not fascism.

Restricting the free press is good now?

[The New California Republic]

ScOut. Scotland Out

The "Och-y-Cokie"?

You take Scotland out; you put Scotland in,
Out the UK, into Europe,
Shake it all about.
You hope to join the EU when you turn around
'Cos that's what it's all about.

Although, while Tusk says that European leaders feel "empathetic" to the thought of a newly independent Scotland wanting to join the EU, they say Scotland would not be automatically accepted, and there would be obligations like any other sovereign nation joining the EU.

The deficit is much higher than the EU allows, so a consequence of independence and application for EU membership would be extremely higher taxes, drastically cut services, or both.

[Cekoviu]

Listed in order of quality: Glasgout, Scotdaddle, Squitland

Edin-out.

Scotfree.

I think Edinburout would flow better

[The New California Republic]

Edin-out.

Scotfree.

I think Edinburout would flow better

They are all horrible.

[Celritannia]

And Tory fascism continues

That's not fascism.

How is restricting the press not fascism?

[Andsed]

And Tory fascism continues

That's not fascism.

The government is actively taking steps to restrict media outlets that criticize it. That seems quite fascist to me.

[Dumb Ideologies]

That's not fascism.

How is restricting the press not fascism?

Because regimes who aren't fascist also have press restrictions. It's a non sequitur. That the press is being restricted to some minor extent, and that fascist countries had (much more severe!) press restrictions does not mean that the decision makes the Tories fascist. Fascism doesn't follow from the premise here anymore than it does - for example - from the fact that both we and Nazi Germany had restrictions on private gun ownership or that both we and Hitler like dogs.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

That's not fascism.

How is restricting the press not fascism?

the press is not being restricted

do you think you can put on a reporter badge and enter no 10 and get brexit briefings?

uninvited journalists who never attended no 10 brexit briefings before demanded to be let him, the n10 press secretary told them to leave. simples.

[Albennia]

That's not fascism.

Restricting the free press is good now?

No, but it isn't fascism.

[Cekoviu]

I think Edinburout would flow better

They are all horrible.

Don't tell me how to do my job.

That's not fascism.

How is restricting the press not fascism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
It is a common component. If I have a phone battery, does that mean I have a phone?