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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:21 pm

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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:where was I arguing that it did :)


So you found these maps, which in no way support your argument, for...


...wait...

What is the purpose of these maps?

you were talking about regional identities and Britishness...
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:22 pm

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
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So you found these maps, which in no way support your argument, for...


...wait...

What is the purpose of these maps?

you were talking about regional identities and Britishness...


No, no I did not.

I'm still waiting for your evidence that people who call themselves British are part of the elite.
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Postby Munkcestrian RepubIic » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:23 pm

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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:you were talking about regional identities and Britishness...


No, no I did not.

I'm still waiting for your evidence that people who call themselves British are part of the elite.

you did...

I have already presented evidence in the form of the repeatedly-linked article that I cannot be bothered to link for the tenth time.
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:25 pm

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
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No, no I did not.

I'm still waiting for your evidence that people who call themselves British are part of the elite.

you did...

I have already presented evidence in the form of the repeatedly-linked article that I cannot be bothered to link for the tenth time.


When?

Your "Evidence" is an opinionated blog piece with no mentioning of "British people are elites", nor does it reference studies conducted by sociologists.

I don't think you know what evidence is.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:55 pm

Oh great, page upon page of this Northumbria crap again.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:08 am

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:The entirety of Europe is lebensraum for Greater Northumbria. We'll have no federalising impulses here.

I wouldn't go that far, but certainly God has chosen the English in general and the Northumbrians in particular to guide western Europe.


I did no such thing. :meh:
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:11 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Oh great, page upon page of this Northumbria crap again.

To attempt to divert away from pages of... yeesh...

A British lawyer was refused a visa he never actually applied for by the Home Office:
A British lawyer has been unable to bring his new wife to join him in the UK because the Home Office rejected a visa he did not apply for.

Samir Pasha, 31, paid a total of £3,204 plus legal costs to bring his new wife Zunab Fareha Pasha, 24, a dyslexia specialist, to the UK.

The couple married in Pakistan in December 2019.

Pasha, in immigration terms his wife’s sponsor, submitted hundreds of pages of supporting evidence about his relationship, his financial circumstances and his employment to the Home Office to support the partner visa application.

However, the Home Office rejected an application for a simple visit visa costing £95 that he did not make. Applicants for visitor visas are not expected to supply the amount of supporting documents required for a partner visa.


The heart-warming competence in that department continues, I see. :roll:

EDIT: There is a happier footnote, in that the refusal for the wrong visa has been overturned and the partner visa is being re-examined, but still...
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:13 am

All this bitching about immigration and the Home Office can't even do a visa correctly.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:42 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Oh great, page upon page of this Northumbria crap again.


More like 4 pages about how calling yourself British means you are somehow part of the elite, somehow.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:20 am

Northumbrians are just Scandinavian immigrants pretending to be British!
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:29 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Northumbrians are just Scandinavian immigrants pretending to be British!


Not quite.

The Caucasian peoples of the British Isles are still Celtic as a base DNA, but with the continuous changing of Ruling Elite, it became a mixed bag. But underneath it all, we are still predominately Celtic Britons.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:43 am

Celritannia wrote:But underneath it all, we are still predominately Celtic Britons.

This still seems to be up for debate. It's not currently known if the Beaker peoples upon which we are mostly based were actually Celtic or if they just adopted Celtic languages after later Celtic migrations.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:51 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Celritannia wrote:But underneath it all, we are still predominately Celtic Britons.

This still seems to be up for debate. It's not currently known if the Beaker peoples upon which we are mostly based were actually Celtic or if they just adopted Celtic languages after later Celtic migrations.


That is true, but I would not say the beaker people were scattered across the British Isles in large numbers prior to the Celtic migration.
I think it is safer to assume the Celtic peoples still hold a much more significant aspect of the Caucasians on these Isles than the beaker peoples.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:41 am

I keep meaning to do one of those DNA tests to check ancestry percentages, but the result on the basis of the extensive family tree I made will mean the results should be quite predictable: something like 60 to 70% Celtic, and the rest made up of the occasional random person from elsewhere who found themselves in bed with one of my other ancestors.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:45 am

The New California Republic wrote:I keep meaning to do one of those DNA tests to check ancestry percentages, but the result on the basis of the extensive family tree I made will mean the results should be quite predictable: something like 60 to 70% Celtic, and the rest made up of the occasional random person from elsewhere who found themselves in bed with one of my other ancestors.


Could be worse, could be 60% to 70% Rangers.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:48 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I keep meaning to do one of those DNA tests to check ancestry percentages, but the result on the basis of the extensive family tree I made will mean the results should be quite predictable: something like 60 to 70% Celtic, and the rest made up of the occasional random person from elsewhere who found themselves in bed with one of my other ancestors.


Could be worse, could be 60% to 70% Rangers.


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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:I keep meaning to do one of those DNA tests to check ancestry percentages, but the result on the basis of the extensive family tree I made will mean the results should be quite predictable: something like 60 to 70% Celtic, and the rest made up of the occasional random person from elsewhere who found themselves in bed with one of my other ancestors.


I’ve gotten a DNA test but I haven’t gotten the results yet. I’m expecting some English, continental Germanic/North Germanic and likely some Greek or Italian. My great-grandfather was left on a doorstep in the 1910s or so I believe and I’ve been told he had bronze or olive skin, which my uncle inherited. My granddad said I look German or have German features, especially with my broad shoulders I was told.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:53 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I keep meaning to do one of those DNA tests to check ancestry percentages, but the result on the basis of the extensive family tree I made will mean the results should be quite predictable: something like 60 to 70% Celtic, and the rest made up of the occasional random person from elsewhere who found themselves in bed with one of my other ancestors.


Could be worse, could be 60% to 70% Rangers.

Have you seen the Celtic shops? The outside painted all a horrible bright green colour. Eyesores. At least the Rangers shops are painted with a more agreeable colour.
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Postby North American Imperial State » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:35 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I keep meaning to do one of those DNA tests to check ancestry percentages, but the result on the basis of the extensive family tree I made will mean the results should be quite predictable: something like 60 to 70% Celtic, and the rest made up of the occasional random person from elsewhere who found themselves in bed with one of my other ancestors.


Could be worse, could be 60% to 70% Rangers.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:06 am

*SIGH*:

Military police have been called in to investigate a racist hate crime carried out at a British Army base in Cyprus.

A black soldier found racist graffiti sprayed on his car at Dhekelia camp, currently home to troops from 1st Battalion, The Princess Of Wales's Royal Regiment.

Photographs show a racist word sprayed on his car. The car was parked inside the camp behind security fencing and gates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53780094
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Postby Loben III » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:53 am

The New California Republic wrote:*SIGH*:

Military police have been called in to investigate a racist hate crime carried out at a British Army base in Cyprus.

A black soldier found racist graffiti sprayed on his car at Dhekelia camp, currently home to troops from 1st Battalion, The Princess Of Wales's Royal Regiment.

Photographs show a racist word sprayed on his car. The car was parked inside the camp behind security fencing and gates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53780094

Uh....what racist word is paint sprayed there?
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:56 am

Loben III wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:*SIGH*:

Military police have been called in to investigate a racist hate crime carried out at a British Army base in Cyprus.

A black soldier found racist graffiti sprayed on his car at Dhekelia camp, currently home to troops from 1st Battalion, The Princess Of Wales's Royal Regiment.

Photographs show a racist word sprayed on his car. The car was parked inside the camp behind security fencing and gates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53780094


Uh....what racist word is paint sprayed there?


The accompanying photograph only shows part of the car.

As the story clearly notes:

'The racist abuse sprayed on the car includes the N-word'.

Given the BBC's recent difficulties over the latter word, it was presumably a deliberate decision to not include it in the photograph.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:56 am

Loben III wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:*SIGH*:

Military police have been called in to investigate a racist hate crime carried out at a British Army base in Cyprus.

A black soldier found racist graffiti sprayed on his car at Dhekelia camp, currently home to troops from 1st Battalion, The Princess Of Wales's Royal Regiment.

Photographs show a racist word sprayed on his car. The car was parked inside the camp behind security fencing and gates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53780094

Uh....what racist word is paint sprayed there?


So because not every facet of the graffiti is in the article it's not a real hate crime. Got it.

Also the photo we do get reads "BLM TALK TOO MUCH" and there's references to ALM in the text. Use your imagination.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:57 am

Loben III wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:*SIGH*:

Military police have been called in to investigate a racist hate crime carried out at a British Army base in Cyprus.

A black soldier found racist graffiti sprayed on his car at Dhekelia camp, currently home to troops from 1st Battalion, The Princess Of Wales's Royal Regiment.

Photographs show a racist word sprayed on his car. The car was parked inside the camp behind security fencing and gates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53780094

Uh....what racist word is paint sprayed there?


Article says the Nword is there my guess is they didn't want to publish a photo of it.
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Postby Loben III » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
Loben III wrote:Uh....what racist word is paint sprayed there?


So because not every facet of the graffiti is in the article it's not a real hate crime. Got it.


Just saying, would be nice if they showed the entire thing instead of assuming that their readership would faint at such horror.....
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