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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:50 pm

you live in the world where the woman whose greatest accomplishments are being wrong about the death penalty on national television and getting fired for having shady meetings with other countries was rehired and is now making a series of increasingly dumb moves and bad policies culminating in her getting in a twitter spat with a woke ice cream company
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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:52 pm

The New California Republic wrote:Lol, Patel takes issue with Ben and Jerry's, but is fine with poppers. Go figure.

Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.
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also the fact that scotland is split between the conservative and unionist party and the progressive and nationalist party is an onion worthy story
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:11 pm

North American Imperial State wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lol, Patel takes issue with Ben and Jerry's, but is fine with poppers. Go figure.

Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence
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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:14 pm

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North American Imperial State wrote:Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence

So most of the Cabinet then, as I am yet to see any Minister in the PM's Government have a backbone.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:17 pm

North American Imperial State wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lol, Patel takes issue with Ben and Jerry's, but is fine with poppers. Go figure.

Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


I find Ben and Jerry’s rainbow capitalist virtue signaling obnoxious, but that said, getting into a Twitter fight with them is stupid. I would think the government would have more important priorities.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:22 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence


I think you mean patsy. I've never noticed her having a golden flaky pastry case....

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:24 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence


And is more than willing to go all in on the IMMIGRANTS BAD spiel when the government needs a way to distract everyone from how they've fucked up the economy.
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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:24 pm

Novus America wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


I find Ben and Jerry’s rainbow capitalist virtue signaling obnoxious, but that said, getting into a Twitter fight with them is stupid. I would think the government would have more important priorities.

She is taking a leaf out of Trump's book and Piers Morgan's for that matter.
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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:25 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence


I think you mean patsy. I've never noticed her having a golden flaky pastry case....

Well she is a flaky person.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:28 pm

Novus America wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Why was she hired in the first place, christ she's one piss take of a home secretary,
I like Ben and Jerrys too.


I find Ben and Jerry’s rainbow capitalist virtue signaling obnoxious, but that said, getting into a Twitter fight with them is stupid. I would think the government would have more important priorities.


Remember, holding any opinions certain internet people dislike is virtue signaling.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:32 pm

The New California Republic wrote:Lol, Patel takes issue with Ben and Jerry's, but is fine with poppers. Go figure.

Good, tbh. Poppers are safe and there's no reason they should be illegal.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:35 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
I find Ben and Jerry’s rainbow capitalist virtue signaling obnoxious, but that said, getting into a Twitter fight with them is stupid. I would think the government would have more important priorities.


Remember, holding any opinions certain internet people dislike is virtue signaling.


It is when it is blatantly hypocritical, for example Unilever Ben and Jerry’s (which is exploits illegal immigrant labor for its own benefit) talks about ending white supremacy while Unilever (a company with a very poor environmental record dies this shit: “Kinita Shenoy, editor of the Sri-Lanka edition of Cosmopolitan, refused to promote Skin Whiteners for a brand of Unilever. Unilever put pressure on her and asked Cosmopolitan to fire her.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilever

They care nothing about what they advocate, it is just a marketing scheme.

You really think multinationals destroying the environment and using dirt cheap labor overseas actually give a shit about whatever BS rainbow capitalist Twitter hashtag they use?

But again the government should have better things to do than get in a fight with them, especially when said government is not exactly know for supporting ethical trade standards.
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:09 pm

North American Imperial State wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence

So most of the Cabinet then, as I am yet to see any Minister in the PM's Government have a backbone.


one of the cabinet ministers (sajid javid, i think) demonstrated backspine by resigning rather than allow johnson and cummings to turn his department into some cummings satellite state. of course, by this very action he by default became no longer a minister. but it was nice to see at least.

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Souseiseki wrote:
she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence


I think you mean patsy. I've never noticed her having a golden flaky pastry case....


thank you for making me imagine priti patel trying to sneak into greggs and get a sausage roll without being noticed while liz truss bitches about whether or not the cheese in the cheese and onion pasties is sufficiently british

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she was hired because she is a pasty with no principles who will do exactly what she is told and the government as it stands prizes obedience over competence


And is more than willing to go all in on the IMMIGRANTS BAD spiel when the government needs a way to distract everyone from how they've fucked up the economy.


p much. say what you want about the previous home secretaries at least they had something that they seemed like they might genuinely care about. even theresa may and the guy that tried to give himself his own cool nickname managed to come up with something that wasn't blatant hot air.

fake edit: having googled it, i am now getting reports the sajid javid claims that he never referred to himself as "the saj". i am deferring my judgement on the matter until i have gathered more evidence but at this time i am still leaning towards the assumption that he totally did.
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Postby Unified German-State » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:12 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Time for the UK to finally stop bowing down to globalism


brexit is a globalist project

did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe


wooooooaaahhhhhhhhh duuuuuuuude economic liberalism broooo stab the working class in the back maaannnnnnn


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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:14 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lol, Patel takes issue with Ben and Jerry's, but is fine with poppers. Go figure.

Good, tbh. Poppers are safe and there's no reason they should be illegal.


huh that's weird i thought the tory MP trying to save poppers succeeded.

i guess in this case it might be good then, as a potential first step to get them to realize how dumb their drugs policy is and create a foot in the door for future changes. it'll still be dumb, but at least, it will be strategically dumb. can priti pull a fast one and somehow be the harbinger of Sensible Drug Policy in the meme united kingdom that is actually super culturally conservative despite trying to pretend otherwise?
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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:14 pm

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Fartsniffage wrote:Only 3 dead and 6 injured badly enough to need hospital treatment after the train derailment. Fucking miracle.

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Because of Covid it's likely that the number on board the train are much reduced from what they'd normally be.

Yes, but it was also really early in the morning and the train was near a city which had been placed under local lockdown.

Without those factors, even with covid, much more people would have died.
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Unified German-State wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
brexit is a globalist project

did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe


wooooooaaahhhhhhhhh duuuuuuuude economic liberalism broooo stab the working class in the back maaannnnnnn


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thank you for your input friend

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:21 pm

Unified German-State wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
brexit is a globalist project

did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe


wooooooaaahhhhhhhhh duuuuuuuude economic liberalism broooo stab the working class in the back maaannnnnnn


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Can you please spoiler that image? It's a bit large.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:22 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Because of Covid it's likely that the number on board the train are much reduced from what they'd normally be.

Yes, but it was also really early in the morning and the train was near a city which had been placed under local lockdown.

Without those factors, even with covid, much more people would have died.

Doesn't really matter, I've seen the really early trains still packed with commuters.
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Wave on, wave on
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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:28 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Yes, but it was also really early in the morning and the train was near a city which had been placed under local lockdown.

Without those factors, even with covid, much more people would have died.

Doesn't really matter, I've seen the really early trains still packed with commuters.

Yeah but the commuter traffic at 6:38 am is below average
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:36 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:Doesn't really matter, I've seen the really early trains still packed with commuters.

Yeah but the commuter traffic at 6:38 am is below average

Keep in mind that this is the Aberdeen-Glasgow train we are talking about, which gets into Glasgow at ~two and a half hours on leaving Aberdeen, stopping at the likes of Dundee and Perth on the way, thus there would have been more commuters on it but for Coronavirus.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:31 pm

Unified German-State wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
brexit is a globalist project

did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe


wooooooaaahhhhhhhhh duuuuuuuude economic liberalism broooo stab the working class in the back maaannnnnnn


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Postby -Ra- » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:45 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
brexit is a globalist project

This explains why all of the big banks and financial institutions opposed Brexit.

did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe

Yes, I do as a matter of fact.

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