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Mary Seacole, Noor Inayat Khan
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by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:33 am
by Andsed » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:36 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Who do they wana put on a note?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... tes-first/
Mary Seacole, Noor Inayat Khan
by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:40 am
Andsed wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... tes-first/
Mary Seacole, Noor Inayat Khan
Not really familiar with Noor Inayat Khan but from what I found she was pretty heroic. Seacole absolutely deserves to be honored.
by Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:42 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:48 am
by Souseiseki » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:50 am
Rojava Free State wrote:What's with all the Pole hating going on in Britain post Brexit? It seems like all of the sudden half of the UK wants to throw every last polish person into the North sea kicking and screaming.
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:51 am
Souseiseki wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:What's with all the Pole hating going on in Britain post Brexit? It seems like all of the sudden half of the UK wants to throw every last polish person into the North sea kicking and screaming.
idk i thought most of the poles went home as quality of life in poland went up and quality of life in england stagnated. maybe people are just getting nostalgic for the decades gone?
by Ifreann » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:05 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:I imagine all the different IRAs all choosing the same target, turning up to plant the bomb, and pointing at each other like that spiderman meme.
by Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:59 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:I imagine all the different IRAs all choosing the same target, turning up to plant the bomb, and pointing at each other like that spiderman meme.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Gormwood » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:05 am
by The Archregimancy » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:07 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Who do they wana put on a note?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... tes-first/
Mary Seacole, Noor Inayat Khan
Black and ethnic minority people are set to feature on British money for the first time, the Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
Chancellor Rishi Sunak is looking at proposals by a campaign group to put influential BAME figures from throughout history on a set of coins, a Treasury minister said.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:13 am
The Archregimancy wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... tes-first/
Mary Seacole, Noor Inayat Khan
Ah, but that's not notes - it's coins. While a 'Banknotes of Colour' campaign group seems to be involved in pushing the change, the article clearly states that:Black and ethnic minority people are set to feature on British money for the first time, the Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
Chancellor Rishi Sunak is looking at proposals by a campaign group to put influential BAME figures from throughout history on a set of coins, a Treasury minister said.
Coins are a bit easier - and less prone to controversy - than notes since there are typically several commemorative £2 and 50p coins each year. They wouldn't have to replace anyone to get Mary Seacole on a coin.
True story: I helped design one of the Royal Mint £2 coins coming out this year. It's not out yet, but it should come out next month (I think).
by The Archregimancy » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:16 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:
Ah, but that's not notes - it's coins. While a 'Banknotes of Colour' campaign group seems to be involved in pushing the change, the article clearly states that:
Coins are a bit easier - and less prone to controversy - than notes since there are typically several commemorative £2 and 50p coins each year. They wouldn't have to replace anyone to get Mary Seacole on a coin.
True story: I helped design one of the Royal Mint £2 coins coming out this year. It's not out yet, but it should come out next month (I think).
A spokeperson from the campaign was on the news talking about bank notes, and starting the process of getting a person of colour on one, and the support they were getting from Rishi Sunak, and Layla Moran, amongst others. I couldn't link to the TV news segment so found the closest thing I could.
by Vassenor » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:17 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:25 am
The Archregimancy wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
A spokeperson from the campaign was on the news talking about bank notes, and starting the process of getting a person of colour on one, and the support they were getting from Rishi Sunak, and Layla Moran, amongst others. I couldn't link to the TV news segment so found the closest thing I could.
Well, it it's going to be bank notes, then we're likely a decade away from an update of any Bank of England banknotes; so they could be waiting a while. A coin (or set of coins), on the other hand, could be done in 18 months.
by The New California Republic » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:06 pm
Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has been caught up in his own department's rule change while on holiday in Spain.
The cabinet minister travelled to the country with his family on Saturday morning for a summer break.
But just hours later, the Department for Transport confirmed all travellers returning to the UK from Spain would have to quarantine for 14 days, due to a spike in cases in the country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53543198
by Fartsniffage » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:49 pm
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:
Well, it it's going to be bank notes, then we're likely a decade away from an update of any Bank of England banknotes; so they could be waiting a while. A coin (or set of coins), on the other hand, could be done in 18 months.
It's a slow process even without getting the cultural buy in. There was enough of an outcry when they took Wellington off the old fivers, so it's best to telegraph these things.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 pm
by Hirota » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:20 pm
Neither was Noor Inayat Khan, if that's the criteria. She was born in Russia.An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:C L R James wasn't British Hirota.
by Vassenor » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:26 pm
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:C L R James wasn't British Hirota.
by The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:49 am
by Mostrov » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:28 am
Vassenor wrote:Neither was Mary Seacole though depending on how strict we want to be regarding parents.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:33 am
Hirota wrote:Neither was Noor Inayat Khan, if that's the criteria. She was born in Russia.An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:C L R James wasn't British Hirota.
However you are wrong - both CLR James and Seacole (the other one you listed) were born in British colonies at a time when the empire was still a thing.
Not that it really matters to me, but you were the one who raised "British" as a requirement.
If "British" nationality isn't an issue (and it shouldn't really), but rather their service for this country (such as Seacole and Inayat Khan) how about something honouring the ghurkas?
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:36 am
Hirota wrote:Neither was Noor Inayat Khan, if that's the criteria. She was born in Russia.An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:C L R James wasn't British Hirota.
However you are wrong - both CLR James and Seacole (the other one you listed) were born in British colonies at a time when the empire was still a thing.
Not that it really matters to me, but you were the one who raised "British" as a requirement.
If "British" nationality isn't an issue (and it shouldn't really), but rather their service for this country (such as Seacole and Inayat Khan) how about something honouring the ghurkas?
by The Free Joy State » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:04 am
The Archregimancy wrote:Vassenor wrote:So the Birmingham Museums Trust is in financial difficulty.
Wonder what the "removing statues is erasing history and must be stopped" crowd has to say about the damage to the sector that the pandemic is doing and what to do about it.
Among your many weird one- or two-sentence posts, this one surely ranks among the weirdest.
These are challenging times across the heritage sector; the BMT is hardly unique in looking closely at current staffing needs, and it puzzles me as why you'd choose a single post from the Chair of the BMT Board of Trustees as representative of a sector-wide issue given the very different challenges faced by within the heritage sector generally and the bizarre tangent you then make over statues.
Secondly, while facing challenges, the BMT is financially secure enough to have recently engaged with recruiting a new Chief Executive (which is not the same as Niels de Vos's post as board chair). Recruitment is now closed, but you can see the LinkedIn advert here. The BMT is the largest independent museum charitable trust in the UK; like many heritage organisations it is currently facing painful staffing decisions (which is the crux of the cited post), but - unlike some smaller museums - it will survive. It's also directly engaged in long-term planning for the post-COVID world, so it's hardly sitting around in the vague hope that a vaccine will turn up next month and save the City Museum and Art Gallery.
Finally, there is absolutely no explicit direct link between Niels de Vos's cited post and 'the "removing statues is erasing history and must be stopped" crowd', nor is it clear what you expect the link to be, or why you expect that 'crowd' to react with a single voice towards the staffing decisions of a museum charitable trust, nor is it clear what you expect them to do about it. Give more money? Protest about staff redundancies at Midlands museums? Write firm letters to the government asking them to give more money to the National Trust? Picket the Tower of London until Historic Royal Palaces agrees not to lay off any Beefeaters?
I mean, I know a thing or two about the heritage sector - likely just a teensy bit more than you, dare I say - and I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Certainly it's not a helpful one that anyone in the sector would recognise as a constructive contribution to debate.
And please don't bother to reply to this post with one of your one-sentence rhetorical questions. I'll ignore it. An actual substantive discussion point, in contrast, I would be delighted to follow up on.
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Who do they wana put on a note?
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Mary Seacole, Noor Inayat Khan
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