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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:56 am

Sometimes I wonder if the reporters are doing the whole report with just a shirt over their swimming costume and wearing a rubber ring and flip-flops.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:03 am

There is a game show called "The floor is lava" now on UK Netflix.

It's exactly what you expect.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:06 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:There is a game show called "The floor is lava" now on UK Netflix.

It's exactly what you expect.


2020 keeps delivering. Unfortunately you can't return any of the deliveries.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:09 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:There is a game show called "The floor is lava" now on UK Netflix.

It's exactly what you expect.


2020 keeps delivering. Unfortunately you can't return any of the deliveries.


It's actually pretty brutal. People leaping from one object to the next and smashing their face into stuff.
This woman just decided to basically fall face first from one object onto the next and faceplanted.

They do slow mo replays.

I'll probably watch just one episode though.

The lava is some kind of comedy goo or something, just flooding the room slowly, and their goal is to get out.

It's also got a hyperserious narrator who insists the lava is real.

I can't see how it can last longer than one season though.

EDIT:

Talia just sacrificed herself, leaping to smash her face into and thus push an object over and form a bridge to the exit, before falling into the lava. The rest of her family survived.

Her Mom told her to do it. Savage.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:15 am

I have a theory on how to get people behaving more responsibly. The government should remind people that the FY1's will be starting their jobs as doctors in hospitals in August and they were all waived through without having to pass any of their final exams.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:24 am

Fartsniffage wrote:I have a theory on how to get people behaving more responsibly. The government should remind people that the FY1's will be starting their jobs as doctors in hospitals in August and they were all waived through without having to pass any of their final exams.


We could construct some kind of ridiculous obstacle course people have to traverse to get to the ER. The more inexplicable puzzles and obstacle courses a society has, the better that society. It directly correlates.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:24 am

New Bremerton wrote:Labour’s Rebecca Long-Bailey sacked in anti-Semitism row

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Antisemitic or not, the Corbynista Momentum far-left will think twice before spreading fake news about the IDF.

What fake news? The article contains a claim about where the US police learned to restrain people by kneeling on their necks, a claim from the subject of the article, and a denial from the Israelis.


Dumb Ideologies wrote:Ah my favourite genre of news is back, reporters going to beaches and interviewing people who've travelled hundreds of miles who think its awfully bad and concerning that other people have done the very same and ooh is that an ice cream van over there?

Fully expecting them to stumble upon Dominic Cummings there.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:42 am

Fartsniffage wrote:I have a theory on how to get people behaving more responsibly. The government should remind people that the FY1's will be starting their jobs as doctors in hospitals in August and they were all waived through without having to pass any of their final exams.

Or we get like Gordon Ramsey or like some Drill Sergeants, record them screaming insults about people violating social distancing, and then play that whenever we get thousands of people swarming the beaches. That will get them to clear out.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:43 am

Andsed wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:I have a theory on how to get people behaving more responsibly. The government should remind people that the FY1's will be starting their jobs as doctors in hospitals in August and they were all waived through without having to pass any of their final exams.

Or we get like Gordon Ramsey or like some Drill Sergeants, record them screaming insults about people violating social distancing, and then play that whenever we get thousands of people swarming the beaches. That will get them to clear out.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:44 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:I have a theory on how to get people behaving more responsibly. The government should remind people that the FY1's will be starting their jobs as doctors in hospitals in August and they were all waived through without having to pass any of their final exams.


We could construct some kind of ridiculous obstacle course people have to traverse to get to the ER. The more inexplicable puzzles and obstacle courses a society has, the better that society. It directly correlates.


https://the-crystal-maze.com/manchester/the-experience/

Your team of fellow Covid sufferers must score at least 300 to be admitted to hospital.
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Postby Hirota » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:47 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
We could construct some kind of ridiculous obstacle course people have to traverse to get to the ER. The more inexplicable puzzles and obstacle courses a society has, the better that society. It directly correlates.


https://the-crystal-maze.com/manchester/the-experience/

Your team of fellow Covid sufferers must score at least 300 to be admitted to hospital.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:48 am

Hirota wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
https://the-crystal-maze.com/manchester/the-experience/

Your team of fellow Covid sufferers must score at least 300 to be admitted to hospital.
I think we all know that the years when Krypton Factor was hosted by Gordon Burns was the true golden age of western society. It's been downhill since.


I've done that assault course so many times. It's much harder than it looks.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:56 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Andsed wrote:Or we get like Gordon Ramsey or like some Drill Sergeants, record them screaming insults about people violating social distancing, and then play that whenever we get thousands of people swarming the beaches. That will get them to clear out.

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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:57 am

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Dresderstan wrote:Yes, this 100%, only we need Malcolm Tucker. ;)

"Stand over there! And do not move - or I will perform a living fucking autopsy on you. And I'll have your kidneys for fucking cufflinks!"

This also springs to mind
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:53 am

This thread explains why RLB had to go perfectly. Looking forward to seeing who gets the education brief.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:04 am

Three people killed in a stabbing attack in Glasgow. Suspect shot by police. Hope this isn't another uptick in Islamist attacks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... t-53195939
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:28 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:This thread explains why RLB had to go perfectly. Looking forward to seeing who gets the education brief.


It's not a very good argument because it relies entirely on collective guilt and unfounded assumptions about motive. Which, you know, ironic.

1. The "should have known better given the previous controversy" argument is effectively one of guilt by association in which RLB is made responsible for things other people have said. It is also takes as read that the previous controversy was largely legitimate when siginificant elements were politically-motivated hatchet jobs stirred up by diaspora groups annoyed at Corbynist criticism of Israel and by wider news media haunted by the spectre of actual socialism.
2. Just because something has been a historic trope does not mean that it cannot actually be happening or that people legitimately believe it to be happening without being under the influence of the trope. Jews and Israeli organisations can act self-interestedly, inhumanely or secretly and so on just like any other individuals or states. The fact that these things are historic tropes does not mean that they cannot happen and that those who rightly or wrongly believe they have evidence of such a thing are axiomatically succumbing to racist conspiracy.

The thread sounds nice but the argument is without actual content.
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Postby Ghost in the Shell » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:38 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Three people killed in a stabbing attack in Glasgow. Suspect shot by police. Hope this isn't another uptick in Islamist attacks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... t-53195939

Hotel was used for asylum seekers. Been told the attacker was an asylum seeker, perhaps been denied asylum and worried about deportation? Police Scotland only reporting one fatality, the attacker.

Very unfortunate. The city center is my favourite part of Glasgow, I walk up West George Street regularly.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:07 am

Ghost in the Shell wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Three people killed in a stabbing attack in Glasgow. Suspect shot by police. Hope this isn't another uptick in Islamist attacks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... t-53195939

Hotel was used for asylum seekers. Been told the attacker was an asylum seeker, perhaps been denied asylum and worried about deportation? Police Scotland only reporting one fatality, the attacker.

Very unfortunate. The city center is my favourite part of Glasgow, I walk up West George Street regularly.

Often around there on the way from Queens street station.
Odd situation.


Suspect is reported to be one of the 3 dead at the scene.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:05 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:
Ghost in the Shell wrote:Hotel was used for asylum seekers. Been told the attacker was an asylum seeker, perhaps been denied asylum and worried about deportation? Police Scotland only reporting one fatality, the attacker.

Very unfortunate. The city center is my favourite part of Glasgow, I walk up West George Street regularly.

Often around there on the way from Queens street station.
Odd situation.


Suspect is reported to be one of the 3 dead at the scene.

The Suspect was shot dead i believe.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:39 am

And because we needed more proof that #ClapForTheNHS and #ClapForCarers was utterly performative:

Only a handful of MPs turned up to debate a pay rise for health and social care workers

Less than 20 MPs turned up today to a parliamentary debate on ‘recognising and rewarding’ health and social care staff for their hard-work during COVID-19.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:40 am

Vassenor wrote:And because we needed more proof that #ClapForTheNHS and #ClapForCarers was utterly performative:

Only a handful of MPs turned up to debate a pay rise for health and social care workers

Less than 20 MPs turned up today to a parliamentary debate on ‘recognising and rewarding’ health and social care staff for their hard-work during COVID-19.

The debate was triggered after a petition titled ‘Increase pay for NHS healthcare workers and recognise their work’ received more than 160,000 signatures

According to a recent YouGov survey, a massive 77% of the public support a pay rise for nurses.

Three other petitions were also debated including one that calls for the controversial immigration health surcharge to be scrapped for health workers and another that would grant citizenship to non-British health and social care workers who assisted during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Matt Hancock, the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, was most notably absent.

Alex Davies-Jones, the Labour MP for Pontypridd, Wales, said during the debate: “The coronavirus pandemic provides a unique opportunity to try and show our thanks and appreciation.

“Call me old fashioned but I’m not sure a hand clap or a medal quite cuts it.”

But how will Conservative MP's pay for their fifth Learjet/Dassault if the money's going to the NHS?

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:42 am

The problem with Bailey is threefold. First for a prospective education secretary to be seemingly lacking the critical thinking skills to fully appreciate the full contents of the article. Second to then not straight away realise her error but instead tried to justify it. Third regardless of content a lack of awareness that perhaps given everything going on with her side of the labour party anything that says anything that could be even remotely seen as antisemitic should just be held away from her with a bargepole.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:10 am

First for a prospective education secretary to be seemingly lacking the critical thinking skills to fully appreciate the full contents of the article.


lmao the credentials for any ministerial post in this country is to be a failed journalist and parrot what the party tells you. critical thinking not required.

Second to then not straight away realise her error but instead tried to justify it.


these people do not believe in legitimate mistakes, absolution or forgiveness so no dice there.

Third regardless of content a lack of awareness that perhaps given everything going on with her side of the labour party anything that says anything that could be even remotely seen as antisemitic should just be held away from her with a bargepole.


like you mean just avoiding anything that references israel altogether?

e: basically if priti patel can survive and rise in office then anyone can. this is all just a song and dance to kill left labourites.
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