UK Politics Thread XII: The Lockdown

[Chan Island]

Letting Mitie and Interserve merge sounds like a bad idea. The government outsourcing field is too narrow as it is.

[EDIT] So what is kicking off in South London? 22 police injured in clashes with a large crowd. Sounds like something that could escalate into an eighties style riot.

Basically it was an impromptu, unlicensed music festival and when the police came to break it up, people fought back and drove them away. Watched a video of one them as the crowd was basically chasing the cops away.

To the extent of it being political, people were shouting "Gang shit" repeatedly while it was all going down.

Horrible that so many were injured, hopefully the 2 police who were hospitalised can get a swift and full recovery.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Letting Mitie and Interserve merge sounds like a bad idea. The government outsourcing field is too narrow as it is.

[EDIT] So what is kicking off in South London? 22 police injured in clashes with a large crowd. Sounds like something that could escalate into an eighties style riot.

Basically it was an impromptu, unlicensed music festival and when the police came to break it up, people fought back and drove them away. Watched a video of one them as the crowd was basically chasing the cops away.

To the extent of it being political, people were shouting "Gang shit" repeatedly while it was all going down.

Horrible that so many were injured, hopefully the 2 police who were hospitalised can get a swift and full recovery.

It's always bad when people get hurt, but we really shouldn't have such draconian laws anyway.

[Hirota]

You honestly believe that you can negotiate a complex trade deal in 5 months

My beliefs are irrelevant. I'm not a negotiator nor am I involved in the process. I see no evidence you are either, so I don't see any relevance in your beliefs, nor any credibility in your opinion.

Yet there seems to be a consensus amongst the EU and the UK that it is possible. Their belief is relevant. I see no reason to doubt their credentials in having that belief.

or that the UK will receieve an economic benefit from becoming more economically isolated than Mauritania?

Claim (that "no deal" will lead to the UK becoming more economically isolated than Mauritania) without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I'm exercising that option. Come back when you have evidence supporting this claim and I might be inclined to debate. Until then, baseless claims go in the bin.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Realistically we are not going to know how the trade talks with the EU are progressing until they are done. Neither side is going to reveal their hand.

[The New California Republic]

The former Children's Laureate Michael Rosen has returned home after a battle with the coronavirus that saw him spend 47 days in intensive care.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53175463

[Vassenor]

Realistically we are not going to know how the trade talks with the EU are progressing until they are done. Neither side is going to reveal their hand.

But Boris and co are going to keep bitching that the EU isn't giving them everything they want.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Really? Both sides seem happy to compromise on some of the sticking points

Not according to the IMF in both instances. But of course some rando with no evidence other than their own musings on an internet forum knows better right?
Standard South London practice - I lived in Catford for 5 years and random illegal street parties happened a couple of times in my road alone. Add to that people are getting a little crazy being cooped up and it's a volatile cocktail.

You honestly believe that you can negotiate a complex trade deal in 5 months or that the UK will receieve an economic benefit from becoming more economically isolated than Mauritania?

I don't believe they can negotiate a trade deal in 5 months, and we're going to have a no deal.

Yay!!!!

[Agarntrop]

You honestly believe that you can negotiate a complex trade deal in 5 months or that the UK will receieve an economic benefit from becoming more economically isolated than Mauritania?

I don't believe they can negotiate a trade deal in 5 months, and we're going to have a no deal.

Yay!!!!

Yes, because it would satisfy your fetish for killing off all the poors as all our public services would be stripped of their resources.

[Agarntrop]

The former Children's Laureate Michael Rosen has returned home after a battle with the coronavirus that saw him spend 47 days in intensive care.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53175463

"Haha Dave, always knew you were a bit WEAK!"

Jokes aside, thats very good news.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I don't believe they can negotiate a trade deal in 5 months, and we're going to have a no deal.

Yay!!!!

Yes, because it would satisfy your fetish for killing off all the poors as all our public services would be stripped of their resources.

Nobody will die, all will be well, smile and be happy.

[Agarntrop]

Yes, because it would satisfy your fetish for killing off all the poors as all our public services would be stripped of their resources.

Nobody will die, all will be well, smile and be happy.

Knock knock the real world is calling

[Hurdergaryp]

[The Islands of Versilia]

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I will be honest in that I don’t feel any real sympathy for those people. It’s beyond disappointing to me.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'm not sure the coming heatwave is actually going to do anything about COVID19 numbers really. Considering that normally a number of people start dying of heat-related afflictions the moment the thermostat goes above 30 C's. These people aren't going to have the most robust immune systems once the heat really comes.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yes, because it would satisfy your fetish for killing off all the poors as all our public services would be stripped of their resources.

Nobody will die, all will be well, smile and be happy.

How can you be this deluded like seriously?

[The New California Republic]

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Idiots being idiots.

[Ifreann]

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Nothing the Brits like more than a good queue.

[Vassenor]

RLB has been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet for sharing article containing "anti-Semitic conspiracy theory"

[The New California Republic]

RLB has been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet for sharing article containing "anti-Semitic conspiracy theory"

Odd because she was one of the people that thought the antisemitism issue should have been dealt with more quickly.

[Kragholm Free States]

RLB has been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet for sharing article containing "anti-Semitic conspiracy theory"

Odd because she was one of the people that thought the antisemitism issue should have been dealt with more quickly.

Stinks of Starmer seizing the tiniest of opportunities to take his old leadership rival down a peg.

[Vassenor]

Also we're not allowed to blame the government for fucking up the response to COVID: JRM is now literally blaming the weather for the spread of the virus.

I'm not entirely sure how that works either.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Do we know yet what RLB shared so we can judge for ourselves?

[Vassenor]

Do we know yet what RLB shared so we can judge for ourselves?

From what I've seen, an Amnesty International article about how US police are this violent because they're aping Israeli tactics or something.

[The worst bus company imaginable]

ok

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Odd because she was one of the people that thought the antisemitism issue should have been dealt with more quickly.

Stinks of Starmer seizing the tiniest of opportunities to take his old leadership rival down a peg.

Nah, what it is is an indication of how this kinda shit isn't ok any more - whereas Corbyn would've tolerated it, Starmer is effecting real change in this regard. Anti-semitism and promotion of antisemitic tropes and conspiracy theories has never been ok. The Labour Party under Keir Starmer is finally of that opinion.