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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

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Has everyone heard the good news?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:04 am

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Agarntrop wrote:Why would you care.

You have previously stated you want to abolish border enforcement alltogether.

But he also thinks Northern Ireland should have a hard border with the Republic with a single underground road for trade.

Do you disagree?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:04 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Has everyone heard the good news?

Tell us Farnsworth, tell us the "Good News"
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:05 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:But he also thinks Northern Ireland should have a hard border with the Republic with a single underground road for trade.

Do you disagree?

Yes because its a fucking retarded idea.
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:06 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Do you disagree?

Yes because its a fucking retarded idea.

It also contradicts basic understandings of economics, international trade and foreign policy.

Oh, and it also contradicts GVH's other views.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:06 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Has everyone heard the good news?

Tell us Farnsworth, tell us the "Good News"

They be opening the eating and drinking halls, the places for amusement and the watching of moving pictures.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:07 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yes because its a fucking retarded idea.

It also contradicts basic understandings of economics, international trade and foreign policy.

Oh, and it also contradicts GVH's other views.

I just like underground trade okay?
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:08 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:It also contradicts basic understandings of economics, international trade and foreign policy.

Oh, and it also contradicts GVH's other views.

I just like underground trade okay?

Is this even a serious proposal then
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Why would you care.

You have previously stated you want to abolish border enforcement alltogether.

But he also thinks Northern Ireland should have a hard border with the Republic with a single underground road for trade.


Northern Ireland would get f*cked so hard, any news website that mentions the situation would be classified as a porn website.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:10 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I just like underground trade okay?

Is this even a serious proposal then

ofc
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:12 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:But he also thinks Northern Ireland should have a hard border with the Republic with a single underground road for trade.


Northern Ireland would get f*cked so hard, any news website that mentions the situation would be classified as a porn website.

lol

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:It also contradicts basic understandings of economics, international trade and foreign policy.

Oh, and it also contradicts GVH's other views.

I just like underground trade okay?
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:12 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Is this even a serious proposal then

ofc

do you even know how trade works

tarrifs and borders are more legal barriers them physical ones

you cant get around them with physical tunnels without completely undermining them, in which case they may as well not exist
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:15 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:ofc

do you even know how trade works

tarrifs and borders are more legal barriers them physical ones

you cant get around them with physical tunnels without completely undermining them, in which case they may as well not exist

I do know how trade works. I don't support any borders or tariffs aside from a hard border in Ireland with an underground tunnel, because tunnels are good.
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:17 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:do you even know how trade works

tarrifs and borders are more legal barriers them physical ones

you cant get around them with physical tunnels without completely undermining them, in which case they may as well not exist

I do know how trade works. I don't support any borders or tariffs aside from a hard border in Ireland with an underground tunnel, because tunnels are good.

Oh Jesus Christ.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard on this website.

Thank fucking God you have no influence over international politics.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:23 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:ofc

do you even know how trade works

tarrifs and borders are more legal barriers them physical ones

you cant get around them with physical tunnels without completely undermining them, in which case they may as well not exist

And this is not even getting into the political ramifications of what it would mean for there to be a hard boarder between NI and Ireland. I am no expert on Irish politics but something tells me violating the good Friday agreement like that is going to piss off a lot of people.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:47 am

Calling the new social distancing rule 1m Plus just sounds so much safer than just calling it 1m. ;)

Wish I could ask a question at the briefing about whether now we can all flock back to model villages that 1m is to scale or not.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:25 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:But he also thinks Northern Ireland should have a hard border with the Republic with a single underground road for trade.


Northern Ireland would get f*cked so hard, any news website that mentions the situation would be classified as a porn website.


:rofl: :rofl:

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Calling the new social distancing rule 1m Plus just sounds so much safer than just calling it 1m. ;)

Wish I could ask a question at the briefing about whether now we can all flock back to model villages that 1m is to scale or not.


You can go to the model villages but all model people have to social distance by the scale equivalent of 1 meter plus unless they live in the same household.
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Postby Auristania » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:34 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Tell us Farnsworth, tell us the "Good News"

They be opening the eating and drinking halls, the places for amusement and the watching of moving pictures.

Yes, but only in England, they are even dangling the carrot of relaing anti-social distancing to 1 meter because 2 meters makes those places impossible to function, likewise, only in England.

Mark Drayford is gauleiter of Wales. He loathes pubs, he will never permit them to open.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:18 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They be opening the eating and drinking halls, the places for amusement and the watching of moving pictures.

Yes, but only in England, they are even dangling the carrot of relaing anti-social distancing to 1 meter because 2 meters makes those places impossible to function, likewise, only in England.

Mark Drayford is gauleiter of Wales. He loathes pubs, he will never permit them to open.


Does lead me to wonder what would have happened with this lockdown if everyone (including business owners) had just been like 'yeah, okay dude' and ignored it. Now that's a country I could be proud of.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Auristania wrote:Yes, but only in England, they are even dangling the carrot of relaing anti-social distancing to 1 meter because 2 meters makes those places impossible to function, likewise, only in England.

Mark Drayford is gauleiter of Wales. He loathes pubs, he will never permit them to open.


Does lead me to wonder what would have happened with this lockdown if everyone (including business owners) had just been like 'yeah, okay dude' and ignored it. Now that's a country I could be proud of.


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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:31 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Does lead me to wonder what would have happened with this lockdown if everyone (including business owners) had just been like 'yeah, okay dude' and ignored it. Now that's a country I could be proud of.

Lockdown prevented around half a million deaths. Very weird that you'd be proud of a country with an extra half million corpses in it...
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The New California Republic wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Does lead me to wonder what would have happened with this lockdown if everyone (including business owners) had just been like 'yeah, okay dude' and ignored it. Now that's a country I could be proud of.

Lockdown prevented around half a million deaths. Very weird that you'd be proud of a country with an extra half million corpses in it...

I could only be proud of a free country. That means that I can't have national pride at the moment.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:35 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lockdown prevented around half a million deaths. Very weird that you'd be proud of a country with an extra half million corpses in it...

I could only be proud of a free country. That means that I can't have national pride at the moment.

Well bully for you! The rest of us will be over here with our head's out of our asses.
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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lockdown prevented around half a million deaths. Very weird that you'd be proud of a country with an extra half million corpses in it...

I could only be proud of a free country. That means that I can't have national pride at the moment.

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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:59 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lockdown prevented around half a million deaths. Very weird that you'd be proud of a country with an extra half million corpses in it...

I could only be proud of a free country. That means that I can't have national pride at the moment.


name one (1) year where england was actually a free country
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