UK Politics Thread XII: The Lockdown

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Idk about you but attempting to rehabilitate a racial social darwinist doesn't quite sound like something liberal centricists of 2020 would do. But you do you.

Let me tell you about the English liberal mindset and its origins in the shape of the Anglo-Saxon skull...

*thinking*

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Why Boris is right to privatise the BBC in a nutshell



Left-wing propaganda machine.

No different to the Dem debate moment when the interviewer asked Warren what she thought about Sanders saying women can't win the general election, right after asking Sanders whether he said that to which the reply was no.

Literal propaganda

[New Bremerton]

Cultural Marxism. Not traditional Marxism. Also, meanings change.

Meanings do change, but if you're trying to describe a political or academic movement, if your definition is not the most commonly used one, you have an intellectual responsibility to justify your definition, which you've failed to do and will probably keep failing because you apparently don't know anything about Marxism within and without cultural studies and issues.

Here, I'll throw you a lifesaver. Name a "cultural Marxist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "cultural Marxist".

The only justification I need is that other people, mainly on the Right, have used the term in the way that I have.

Name a "regressive leftist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "regressive leftist". Just because leftists don't identify as such doesn't make the term and meaning any less valid.

Neither do I. At what point did I or the article I cited mention anything about racial phrenology or whatever cute eugenics BS you can conjure up to smear me with? What does it have to do with anything? It's a complete non sequitur.

So you don't actually know anything about the history of the publication you used as a source?

Do you ever actually research before writing?

What does this have to do with the specific article I cited?

[Hydesland]

-snip-

Wait what - is the line now that Sabisky hasn't been appointed after all? Is that seriously what you're going with?

[Vassenor]

Meanings do change, but if you're trying to describe a political or academic movement, if your definition is not the most commonly used one, you have an intellectual responsibility to justify your definition, which you've failed to do and will probably keep failing because you apparently don't know anything about Marxism within and without cultural studies and issues.

Here, I'll throw you a lifesaver. Name a "cultural Marxist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "cultural Marxist".

The only justification I need is that other people, mainly on the Right, have used the term in the way that I have.

Name a "regressive leftist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "regressive leftist". Just because leftists don't identify as such doesn't make the term and meaning any less valid.

So you don't actually know anything about the history of the publication you used as a source?

Do you ever actually research before writing?

What does this have to do with the specific article I cited?

I guess we're doing deflection again.

[Gormwood]

Why Boris is right to privatise the BBC in a nutshell

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Left-wing propaganda machine.

No different to the Dem debate moment when the interviewer asked Warren what she thought about Sanders saying women can't win the general election, right after asking Sanders whether he said that to which the reply was no.

Literal propaganda

So you want it replaced with Murdoch Broadcasting Corporation. Shockerr...

[Hydesland]

Sabisky has just resigned (funny I thought the idea he was hired was left wing propaganda in the first place).

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So you don't actually know anything about the history of the publication you used as a source?

Do you ever actually research before writing?

What does this have to do with the specific article I cited?

The fact that they included the American Nazi Party as a conservative entity allegedly censored by Twitter discredits your entire source, from the domain name onwards. Along with the whole "rehabilitating a racial social darwinist" bit y'know.

[New Bremerton]

The only justification I need is that other people, mainly on the Right, have used the term in the way that I have.

Name a "regressive leftist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "regressive leftist". Just because leftists don't identify as such doesn't make the term and meaning any less valid.



What does this have to do with the specific article I cited?

I guess we're doing deflection again.

It's not like any of you even bothered to address the actual contents of the article I cited, which *hint* has absolutely nothing to do with eugenics and phrenology, but yeah. Deflection.

[Liriena]

Meanings do change, but if you're trying to describe a political or academic movement, if your definition is not the most commonly used one, you have an intellectual responsibility to justify your definition, which you've failed to do and will probably keep failing because you apparently don't know anything about Marxism within and without cultural studies and issues.

Here, I'll throw you a lifesaver. Name a "cultural Marxist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "cultural Marxist".

The only justification I need is that other people, mainly on the Right, have used the term in the way that I have.

So an undisclosed number of people are using that definition for undisclosed reasons and you think this is valid?

Name a "regressive leftist" author and explain what about their theory and praxis makes them a "regressive leftist". Just because leftists don't identify as such doesn't make the term and meaning any less valid.

That might something to do with the fact that "regressive leftist" is a smear term, not meant to fairly describe a specific movement. Which seems to be the same thing you are doing with "cultural marxists".

You're building your own paranoid anti-leftist hysteria on opaque definitions and a blatant lack of education.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Sabisky has just resigned (funny I thought the idea he was hired was left wing propaganda in the first place).

A rarely-seen example of the "you can't hire me, I resign".

[Liriena]

Seriously, New Bremerton, if you have any actual courage in your convictions and confidence in the solidity of your arguments, you should be eager to actually explain them to the "uninitiated", rather than just obscure the meaning of your views behind "other people think this too so it's valid".

[Fartsniffage]

Sabisky has just resigned (funny I thought the idea he was hired was left wing propaganda in the first place).

https://twitter.com/jamiesmart/status/1 ... 1216664577

Hahaha.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Sabisky has just resigned (funny I thought the idea he was hired was left wing propaganda in the first place).

You are leftwing propaganda.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I wonder whom next Dominic Cummings will introduce to No. 10 in his analogous capacity to Empress Dowager Cixi. <.>

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

No, my friend. It is you and your ilk that are a threat to democracy. You should be exposed for the savages that you are. I'd say put down the Mein Kampf, but even Hitler thinks you're a reactionary. You want to turn this country back into the Dark Ages, and end democracy itself.

Do you think that any of us will stand for this? I'd much rather be put before the firing squad than live in a country where men like you rule.

now now, lets not use colonial buzzwords to describe civilized people.

Civilised? This behaviour of anti-democratic Lysenkoism is hardly civilised.

[Druing]

You are leftwing propaganda.

i am left-wing propaganda.

[Liriena]

You are leftwing propaganda.

i am left-wing propaganda.

No. Mum says it's MY turn on the leftwing propaganda

[Greed and Death]

Why is everyone who typically leans left against more high speed rail in the UK ? I thought that was the left's thing.

[Dumb Ideologies]

You are leftwing propaganda.

i am left-wing propaganda.

I hear that Cummings writes alt-right erotic fanfiction under the name of Spurticus.

[Fartsniffage]

Why is everyone who typically leans left against more high speed rail in the UK ? I thought that was the left's thing.

HS2 basically a way to funnel more people and money into London. Most people on the left would prefer regenerating other parts of the country.

It the proposal had just been a high speed link between Birmingham, Manchester, and Leeds then I think it would have more support.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Why is everyone who typically leans left against more high speed rail in the UK ? I thought that was the left's thing.

I honestly have no real opinion on it, ive paid very little attention to it over the years or the issues surrounding it.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

No, my friend. It is you and your ilk that are a threat to democracy. You should be exposed for the savages that you are. I'd say put down the Mein Kampf, but even Hitler thinks you're a reactionary. You want to turn this country back into the Dark Ages, and end democracy itself.

Do you think that any of us will stand for this? I'd much rather be put before the firing squad than live in a country where men like you rule.

Exhibit A: "Anyone who disagrees with me is automatically a literal goose-stepping Nazi and fascist scum."

Thank you for proving me right about the far-left once again. You make this so easy and do your fellow leftists no favors with your useless and stereotypical strawmanning. You strike me as the kind of person who would condone Antifa street violence against me for my actually mainstream liberal centrist views as you would against Andy Ngo, who shares my Asian racial phenotype and is just as critical of the Left as I am. The shit that he has been subjected to is how I discovered Quillette in the first place.

My real enemy is actually authoritarianism of the fascist, Islamist, leftist and radical feminist persuasions. I won't stand for authoritarians like you forcing your beliefs onto me, no matter what your persuasion.

If by "men by me" you mean reasonable centrists, liberals, libertarians and moderate conservatives who reject the extremism of both woke intersectional leftists and fascists and Islamists, and constitute the vast majority of people, then I think your country is already being ruled by them already, and rightly so. Say hi to Boris for me, will you?

The fact that you presumed that I'm white and then tried to play the race card is laughable, and one that I will easily throw out.

You aren't a centrists, nor a liberal, libertarian or conservative. You're a reactionary at best. If people like you constitute the vast majority of people, then why are you still losing? You have the backing of the corporations, of the establishment, and presumably, according to you, the people.

The fact is, New Bremerton, and this might be a little hard for you to swallow: you far-right goons are much less powerful than you think. You don't have any momentum, any influence, at least not since 2016. Your iron boots are crumbling, and you know it. Johnson only got his votes off of economically left northerners wanting Brexit, with him only getting 34% approval ratings. Trump is set to lose next election, by either the high single digits (Biden, Buttigieg) or the double digits (Bloomberg, Sanders), as the flames of the far-right are left to scatter across Eastern Europe and Italy.

The left is rising again, and you know it. More people support socialism over capitalism now, and most support generally left-wing policies. All we need know is to organise properly, get our turnout up and push ahead.

You know that the people support us and our ideals. All we need to do is organise properly, and then we can win. The red tide is coming, whether or not you like it.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Why is everyone who typically leans left against more high speed rail in the UK ? I thought that was the left's thing.

I support it.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Why is everyone who typically leans left against more high speed rail in the UK ? I thought that was the left's thing.

There's a lot of people who are just "tory idea = bad" but there's some issues with HS2 that need resolving - it's very London and south east focused, with the secondary parts of HS2 connecting the north and midlands considered things that might not even happen. Focusing on those first would probably be a better idea.