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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

Yes
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No
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No *vote amended by GRU*
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Total votes : 51

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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:44 am

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Well in Eastern Europe that is actually not a crazy thing to say :p

Though actually during the invasion scare of 1940 to 1941 road signs were removed and swapped to confuse a hypothetical German invasion.

Maybe the government still wants to scare away the Germans :o

It won't help against the hordes of PRC'ians coming here to colonise England... half of them speaks only passable English and the other half doesn't at all. <.>


"PRC'ians"

Do you mean Chinese?
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Postby Novus America » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:27 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It won't help against the hordes of PRC'ians coming here to colonise England... half of them speaks only passable English and the other half doesn't at all. <.>


"PRC'ians"

Do you mean Chinese?


Not really because the PRC does not represent or control all Chinese.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:40 am

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The New California Republic wrote:In the UK all the train station signs were removed.


As well as signposts and mile markers.

There was also a captain sent to the USSR as a tank doctrine adviser after a decision was made to put up signs saying sheep should keep out of the roads in Southern England so military traffic was unimpeded. He asked a general how the sheep were supposed to read the signs.


I'd also question exactly how much a sheep would hold up a tank.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:51 am

In regards to the poll; kinda sad. I'm pro-EU but I've became so tired of the drama and rhetoric that I just want to get on with it and hope that Britain can make the most out of being outside the EU.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:12 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
As well as signposts and mile markers.

There was also a captain sent to the USSR as a tank doctrine adviser after a decision was made to put up signs saying sheep should keep out of the roads in Southern England so military traffic was unimpeded. He asked a general how the sheep were supposed to read the signs.


I'd also question exactly how much a sheep would hold up a tank.


It was early 1940. We only had about 4 tanks at that point. :P
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Postby Nimzonia » Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:41 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:In regards to the poll; kinda sad. I'm pro-EU but I've became so tired of the drama and rhetoric that I just want to get on with it and hope that Britain can make the most out of being outside the EU.


It's been a tad disappointing to see all the racists and xenophobes crawl out of the sewer where we've had them bottled up for the last couple of decades, but I doubt in the long run it will put any kind of dent in the onward progress of cosmopolitanism.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:52 am

Nimzonia wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:In regards to the poll; kinda sad. I'm pro-EU but I've became so tired of the drama and rhetoric that I just want to get on with it and hope that Britain can make the most out of being outside the EU.


It's been a tad disappointing to see all the racists and xenophobes crawl out of the sewer where we've had them bottled up for the last couple of decades, but I doubt in the long run it will put any kind of dent in the onward progress of cosmopolitanism.


Indeed, someone came up to me on Jan 31st saying in a jubilant mood- "it's time to honour Lord Nelson and Winston Churchill, you know we used to fight the French??" As if you have to be a Brexiteer to honour them.

As for my previous post, I imagine that some remainers would see my attitude as 'giving up', but if I'm giving up on anything it's seeing the constant pessimism and virtual flagellation in hoping that Brexit doesn't work for Britain.
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:22 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Postcodes in totally different areas are nigh on impossible to mix up...

Random side note, Northern Ireland uses BT as the post code for the entire region. For such a long time i thought Scotland etc would have had just one postcode too.


ngl for some reason i never made the connection between G and Glasgow so when i first saw a postcode from a different city it blew my mind
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:07 am

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The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:It's quite clear what you were trying to instigate. No one cares about your ongoing, frankly quite boring feud with Gauthier. Please keep it out of our thread cos as previously said, it's really really boring fam.

Oh, is he still trying? Pffft. Blocked him long ago, that's pretty sad and pathetic that he has nothing better to do in his life than try to dunk on people and get an angry rise out of them.


That is literally all you do here.
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:10 am

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Gormwood wrote:Oh, is he still trying? Pffft. Blocked him long ago, that's pretty sad and pathetic that he has nothing better to do in his life than try to dunk on people and get an angry rise out of them.


That is literally all you do here.


That it is XD

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:16 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Oh, is he still trying? Pffft. Blocked him long ago, that's pretty sad and pathetic that he has nothing better to do in his life than try to dunk on people and get an angry rise out of them.


That is literally all you do here.

"NO U." Could always block me, but naw. You love the virtue signal.
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:48 am

i must say it's extremely interesting to watch the "voting age should be 16 but age of consent should be 18" crowd out in force on other sites today

at the very least i've seen at least one person openly admit that it's very hard for them to come with a logical justification for it
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:51 am

Souseiseki wrote:i must say it's extremely interesting to watch the "voting age should be 16 but age of consent should be 18" crowd out in force on other sites today

at the very least i've seen at least one person openly admit that it's very hard for them to come with a logical justification for it


I do think both should be 16.
But this is a stain on any married public official.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:31 pm

Can I just say that if I'm ever appointed to a position of responsibility in either the British or Scottish governments, I promise not to send 270 text messages to a 16 year old of either sex over a 6-month period.



Souseiseki wrote:i must say it's extremely interesting to watch the "voting age should be 16 but age of consent should be 18" crowd out in force on other sites today


Are you asserting, by implication, that the young man in question was a consenting recipient of these text messages? And are you similarly asserting by implication that the fact Mr Mackay lives with his long-term partner is irrelevant if the young man was consenting? A clarification would perhaps be welcome.



Celritannia wrote:I do think both should be 16.
But this is a stain on any married public official.


Mr Mackay is not married. He separated from his wife in 2013 after coming out as gay. He currently lives with his partner Fraser Adam. He's not married to Mr Adam, though I'm not sure that entirely matters here.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:33 pm

Novus America wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:"PRC'ians"

Do you mean Chinese?


Not really because the PRC does not represent or control all Chinese.


True, but it is still an odd expression. And not everyone who comes from the PRC territory necessarily would support the communist government. In fact some might come specifically to flee communist tyranny.
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:35 pm

Are you asserting, by implication, that the young man in question was a consenting recipient of these text messages? A clarification would perhaps be welcome. That Mr Mackay lives with his partner is no doubt irrelevant if the young man was consenting.


i have no particular comment on this case specifically at this time because i have not adequately researched it. i'm just commenting on that there are a lot of people with that general position both in regards to and outside of this case and that i find that position strange.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:54 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:Can I just say that if I'm ever appointed to a position of responsibility in either the British or Scottish governments, I promise not to send 270 text messages to a 16 year old of either sex over a 6-month period.

You'd think it obvious that he shouldn't have been pestering a barely legal boy, but clearly it isn't to Mackay.

The Archregimancy wrote:Mr Mackay is not married. [...] He currently lives with his partner Fraser Adam. He's not married to Mr Adam, though I'm not sure that entirely matters here.

How I'd love to be a fly on the wall in their house when all this shit hit the fan.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:01 pm

Gormwood wrote:
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That is literally all you do here.

"NO U." Could always block me, but naw. You love the virtue signal.


Nah because unlike you I dont cowardly hide behind a block. When I call out your nonsense I'll do it to your face.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:04 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Gormwood wrote:"NO U." Could always block me, but naw. You love the virtue signal.


Nah because unlike you I dont cowardly hide behind a block. When I call out your nonsense I'll do it to your face.


Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:13 pm

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Nah because unlike you I dont cowardly hide behind a block. When I call out your nonsense I'll do it to your face.


Can the pair of you go do it in one of the myriad American politics threads?

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:14 pm

Police believe the Continuity IRA (CIRA) was responsible for a bomb found attached to a lorry in County Armagh on Tuesday morning.

It is thought the device may have been intended for a Brexit day attack.

Police said they first received a report about an explosive device in a lorry at Belfast docks on 31 January - the date the UK left the EU.

In a call to a media outlet, it was claimed the lorry was due to travel by ferry to Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51401435

Fuck off IRA. Keep your bombs out of Scotland. Actually scratch that, just fuck off with planting bombs anywhere.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:16 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Police believe the Continuity IRA (CIRA) was responsible for a bomb found attached to a lorry in County Armagh on Tuesday morning.

It is thought the device may have been intended for a Brexit day attack.

Police said they first received a report about an explosive device in a lorry at Belfast docks on 31 January - the date the UK left the EU.

In a call to a media outlet, it was claimed the lorry was due to travel by ferry to Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51401435

Fuck off IRA. Keep your bombs out of Scotland. Actually scratch that, just fuck off with planting bombs anywhere.

The IRA's sectarian innit?
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