UK Politics Thread XII: The Lockdown

[Souseiseki]

what if we lie our asses off so that shetland votes to stay then leave the UK, join the EU, shout HAHAHA ONCE IN A GENERATION LOSERS at them if they ask for another vote then openly gloat about how hard it will be for them to leave scotland and the EU and try rejoin the UK once the deed has been done

that's a good idea right



remember when people posted all the stats about how brexit would make the UK measurable worse off for leave voting areas and they didn't give a shit lol

Shetland will be Scotland's Scotland in that case.

pretty fucked up that shetland would refuse to accept that scotland voted to leave the UK as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo

[Agarntrop]

If scottish independence does happen, i know what will be flying in westminster...

[Nimzonia]

Cue Brexiteers unironically sneering at Scottish nationalists for ignoring sensible economic reasons to remain in a union.

[Agarntrop]

Shetland will be Scotland's Scotland in that case.

pretty fucked up that shetland would refuse to accept that scotland voted to leave the UK as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo

I mean you could argue

"pretty fucked up that scotland would refuse to accept that the uk voted to leave the eu as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo"

Bit hypocritical what you just said...

[Souseiseki]

pretty fucked up that shetland would refuse to accept that scotland voted to leave the UK as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo

I mean you could argue

"pretty fucked up that scotland would refuse to accept that the uk voted to leave the eu as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo"

Bit hypocritical what you just said...

that is the joke yes

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

According to The Index of Social and Economic Wellbeing, since the Scottish devolution in 1998, Scotland has fallen sharply in key indicators of national wellbeing.

Scotland has suffered one of sharpest falls among developed countries in ranking of national wellbeing and is now on a par with Slovenia. It has fallen 5 places into the bottom half of OECD since achieving devolution, all this while having the highest per-capita government spending and a generous budget deficit in the UK nations.

Scotland now ranks bottom in the UK for health outcomes and life expectancy, with a life expectancy on par with Romania. The rest of the UK has beaten or stayed within the EU average in increasing life expectancy.

At 4.9/10 index, an independent Scotland would rank below Turkey and the Russian Federation on health outcomes of OECD Better Life Index.

https://oecdregionalwellbeing.org/UKM.html
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/health/

It also has the worst drug problem in Europe to boot.

Illegal yeah, but I think Denmark is worse for legal drug abuse, mainly revolving around overconsumption of antidepressants. Same with Sweden.

[Vassenor]

pretty fucked up that shetland would refuse to accept that scotland voted to leave the UK as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo

I mean you could argue

"pretty fucked up that scotland would refuse to accept that the uk voted to leave the eu as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo"

Bit hypocritical what you just said...

But we didn't vote as one nation. Scotland and NI got dragged out against their will because England demanded it.

[Agarntrop]

I mean you could argue

"pretty fucked up that scotland would refuse to accept that the uk voted to leave the eu as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo"

Bit hypocritical what you just said...

that is the joke yes

Oh

[Albrenia]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

I doubt it was worth it, but only time will tell.

[Souseiseki]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

I doubt it was worth it, but only time will tell.

yes but also no

[The New California Republic]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

It won't really be "done" until January 1st 2021, the end of the transition period. I mean yes on paper we are not in the EU anymore, but most things will continue to function for the rest of the year.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

I mean you could argue

"pretty fucked up that scotland would refuse to accept that the uk voted to leave the eu as one nation and refuse to get over it and move on imo"

Bit hypocritical what you just said...

But we didn't vote as one nation. Scotland and NI got dragged out against their will because England demanded it.

Scotland is not a nation, it is an administrative division. Borders can change at any time, and Shetland can be pulled out at any time.

After all, Monmouthshire was only administratively 'passed' to Wales in 1974, and Wales as a whole was part of England until 1967. The UK government says so itself: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/30/schedule/2

Which makes sense, since the UK is a union of England [inclusive of Wales, part of England,] Scotland and Northern Ireland.

And soon, Shetlands.

[Albrenia]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

It won't really be "done" until January 1st 2021, the end of the transition period. I mean yes on paper we are not in the EU anymore, but most things will continue to function for the rest of the year.

Well that must be annoying to all the anti-European folks, heh.

[Souseiseki]

But we didn't vote as one nation. Scotland and NI got dragged out against their will because England demanded it.

Scotland is not a nation, it is an administrative division. Borders can change at any time, and Shetland can be pulled out at any time.

After all, Monmouthshire was only administratively 'passed' to Wales in 1974. The UK government says so itself: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/30/schedule/2

the people of scotland clearly disagree

sounds like a problem

[The New California Republic]

It won't really be "done" until January 1st 2021, the end of the transition period. I mean yes on paper we are not in the EU anymore, but most things will continue to function for the rest of the year.

Well that must be annoying to all the anti-European folks, heh.

For example I'll still be able to go to Europe this summer on my UK passport (which incidentally says European Union on it until I get it renewed, whenever that will be) with no additional restrictions, and be able to use the EU passport desks.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Scotland is not a nation, it is an administrative division. Borders can change at any time, and Shetland can be pulled out at any time.

After all, Monmouthshire was only administratively 'passed' to Wales in 1974. The UK government says so itself: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1978/30/schedule/2

the people of scotland clearly disagree

sounds like a problem

As evidenced by .. voting against becoming a nation.

[Souseiseki]

the people of scotland clearly disagree

sounds like a problem

As evidenced by .. voting against becoming a nation.

there is a difference between being a nation and being a sovereign state

i would have thought this would have been self-intuitive

[Greed and Death]

I am getting reports of spontaneous jubilation on the streets of the UK. The football clubs seem to be out in force to shout down any pro remain crowds that their show their face.

[Lower Nubia]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

I doubt it was worth it, but only time will tell.

No. We’ve actually become what brexiteers believed we were in 2016: a state which takes EU regulations without a say on those regulations. That’s why it’s called the Transition period, not the final period.

[Greed and Death]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

I doubt it was worth it, but only time will tell.

No. We’ve actually become what brexiteers believed we were in 2016: a state which takes EU regulations without a say on those regulations. That’s why it’s called the Transition period, not the final period.

It is still possible to get a hard brexit if Boris Johnson calks up the negotiations.

[Lower Nubia]

No. We’ve actually become what brexiteers believed we were in 2016: a state which takes EU regulations without a say on those regulations. That’s why it’s called the Transition period, not the final period.

It is still possible to get a hard brexit if Boris Johnson calks up the negotiations.

Yes. Which shows how stupid this all is.

[The Nihilistic view]

johnson is a fucking coward that voted against may's deal, made it slightly worse then brought it back like it was the best shit ever

Hmmmm fruity!

[Celritannia]

johnson is a fucking coward that voted against may's deal, made it slightly worse then brought it back like it was the best shit ever

Hmmmm fruity!

Johnson is a racist, homophobic, misogynistic uneducated dick who hates the poor.

[The Nihilistic view]

(Image)

[Agarntrop]

So Brexit's done now? That took a fucking long time.

I doubt it was worth it, but only time will tell.

No. We’ve actually become what brexiteers believed we were in 2016: a state which takes EU regulations without a say on those regulations. That’s why it’s called the Transition period, not the final period.

should be called the pointless period