The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Novus America]

Yes. Xiaomi stores all their data on servers in the PRC, that the PRC government has free and open access to. No warrants, no judges.

You basically are giving your data to their secret police.
That is a much higher risk than getting a natural virus from it.

So what happens if I never set foot in the PRC again? Do I still risk the PRC government making my browser history public or no?

If you use their software the data still goes back to the PRC.
Regardless of where you live. The data is not restricted to your location.

I mean the PRC cannot arrest you but they can still steal your data, and if you have contacts in the PRC go at them.
I would say never use PRC software.

But a bit off topic.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Russia has closed her borders with China....

......The question is, how?

[Novus America]

What incentive have they to pander to the PRC?

Funding.

The head of WHO’s executive board is a Pakistani politician. Pakistan is owned by the PRC.
The director general is an Ethiopian politician. The PRC is the number one investor in Ethiopia.

Who is run by politicians from governments owned by the PRC.

The Director General made Mugabe a goodwill ambassador. Previous ones spent $1,000 a night on hotel rooms. This is the type of people running the thing.

Corrupt politicians from governments reliant on PRC money.

[Lord Dominator]

Russia has closed her borders with China....

......The question is, how?

Regular border crossings I assume, particularly the rail and air connections.

[The New California Republic]

Russia has closed her borders with China....

......The question is, how?

The border is over 2,500km (2,600 miles) long. Good luck Russia.

[Genivaria]

Yahoo News: China being accused of cremating bodies to hide the death toll

Russia has closed her borders with China....

Okay so now the Plague Inc. jokes are no longer funny.

[The New California Republic]

Considering that this problem is now affecting more than just China, it might be a good idea to change the thread title to "Coronavirus Discussion Thread" instead.

OP, if you are reading this, can you please consider changing the thread title? This problem is much wider than China now...

[Genivaria]

Considering that this problem is now affecting more than just China, it might be a good idea to change the thread title to "Coronavirus Discussion Thread" instead.

OP, if you are reading this, can you please consider changing the thread title? This problem is much wider than China now...

Second.

[Samudera Darussalam]

OP, if you are reading this, can you please consider changing the thread title? This problem is much wider than China now...

Second.

Third.

Yahoo News: China being accused of cremating bodies to hide the death toll

Russia has closed her borders with China....

Okay so now the Plague Inc. jokes are no longer funny.

How do you feel when things in game turning into reality?

[Totally Not OEP]

With 16 major airlines having cancelled flights and now with nations closing their borders to China, it's important to recall that in 2017 tourism composed 17% of China's GDP. Likewise, Beijing has already extended the official Lunar New Year festivities by three days in an order to hopefully get things contained before everyone starts going back to work; LNE consumption is equivalent to the Christmas season in the West as far purchases and the like going, meaning the Chinese economy is taking a very big hit from this too. Soon, however, the situation will come to a head: Either the CCP will have to force/let workers go back to their jobs and risk increasing the spread of the virus or keep them home, which risks literally tearing their economy to pieces, particularly for SMEs.

Given the ongoing decline of the Chinese economy, this might very well be the nail in the coffin.

[Catburg]

Considering that this problem is now affecting more than just China, it might be a good idea to change the thread title to "Coronavirus Discussion Thread" instead.

OP, if you are reading this, can you please consider changing the thread title? This problem is much wider than China now...

Sure!

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Second.

Third.

Okay so now the Plague Inc. jokes are no longer funny.

How do you feel when things in game turning into reality?

Nothing can compete with my T-virus that wiped out the planet in less than 200 days.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

With 16 major airlines having cancelled flights and now with nations closing their borders to China, it's important to recall that in 2017 tourism composed 17% of China's GDP. Likewise, Beijing has already extended the official Lunar New Year festivities by three days in an order to hopefully get things contained before everyone starts going back to work; LNE consumption is equivalent to the Christmas season in the West as far purchases and the like going, meaning the Chinese economy is taking a very big hit from this too. Soon, however, the situation will come to a head: Either the CCP will have to force/let workers go back to their jobs and risk increasing the spread of the virus or keep them home, which risks literally tearing their economy to pieces, particularly for SMEs.

Given the ongoing decline of the Chinese economy, this might very well be the nail in the coffin.

Doubtful, if this is anything like SARS then the virus eventually be contained or burn itself out by the end of the year and China will go back to business as usual.

[Thermodolia]

Yahoo News: China being accused of cremating bodies to hide the death toll

That’s not good.

[The New California Republic]

OP, if you are reading this, can you please consider changing the thread title? This problem is much wider than China now...

Sure!

Thanks.

[The New California Republic]

Yahoo News: China being accused of cremating bodies to hide the death toll

That’s not good.

The current death toll in China is 213, but I think that the true number is far higher than that.

[Hakons]

With 16 major airlines having cancelled flights and now with nations closing their borders to China, it's important to recall that in 2017 tourism composed 17% of China's GDP. Likewise, Beijing has already extended the official Lunar New Year festivities by three days in an order to hopefully get things contained before everyone starts going back to work; LNE consumption is equivalent to the Christmas season in the West as far purchases and the like going, meaning the Chinese economy is taking a very big hit from this too. Soon, however, the situation will come to a head: Either the CCP will have to force/let workers go back to their jobs and risk increasing the spread of the virus or keep them home, which risks literally tearing their economy to pieces, particularly for SMEs.

Given the ongoing decline of the Chinese economy, this might very well be the nail in the coffin.

Doubtful, if this is anything like SARS then the virus eventually be contained or burn itself out by the end of the year and China will go back to business as usual.

It's January. The end of the year is in 11 months...

[Novus America]

With 16 major airlines having cancelled flights and now with nations closing their borders to China, it's important to recall that in 2017 tourism composed 17% of China's GDP. Likewise, Beijing has already extended the official Lunar New Year festivities by three days in an order to hopefully get things contained before everyone starts going back to work; LNE consumption is equivalent to the Christmas season in the West as far purchases and the like going, meaning the Chinese economy is taking a very big hit from this too. Soon, however, the situation will come to a head: Either the CCP will have to force/let workers go back to their jobs and risk increasing the spread of the virus or keep them home, which risks literally tearing their economy to pieces, particularly for SMEs.

Given the ongoing decline of the Chinese economy, this might very well be the nail in the coffin.

Doubtful, if this is anything like SARS then the virus eventually be contained or burn itself out by the end of the year and China will go back to business as usual.

True. It will hit them in the short term, but they will fake the GDP numbers for the first quarters this year (assume the ones the currently use are not already faked when they probably are) and then corporate greed will get then back up and going again.

[Thermodolia]

With 16 major airlines having cancelled flights and now with nations closing their borders to China, it's important to recall that in 2017 tourism composed 17% of China's GDP. Likewise, Beijing has already extended the official Lunar New Year festivities by three days in an order to hopefully get things contained before everyone starts going back to work; LNE consumption is equivalent to the Christmas season in the West as far purchases and the like going, meaning the Chinese economy is taking a very big hit from this too. Soon, however, the situation will come to a head: Either the CCP will have to force/let workers go back to their jobs and risk increasing the spread of the virus or keep them home, which risks literally tearing their economy to pieces, particularly for SMEs.

Given the ongoing decline of the Chinese economy, this might very well be the nail in the coffin.

Doubtful, if this is anything like SARS then the virus eventually be contained or burn itself out by the end of the year and China will go back to business as usual.

I don’t think it’s anything like SARS. The rate of infected persons is already higher than SARS was at this point in time. The virus has already been shown nearly impossible to contain except for extreme measures.

Plus the Chinese have been accused of both hiding the true number of infected people and the true death rate. This virus might very well be more deadly than we think.

[Thermodolia]

That’s not good.

The current death toll in China is 213, but I think that the true number is far higher than that.

As do I. China has been caught faking the numbers before why wouldn’t they do it again?

[Totally Not OEP]

With 16 major airlines having cancelled flights and now with nations closing their borders to China, it's important to recall that in 2017 tourism composed 17% of China's GDP. Likewise, Beijing has already extended the official Lunar New Year festivities by three days in an order to hopefully get things contained before everyone starts going back to work; LNE consumption is equivalent to the Christmas season in the West as far purchases and the like going, meaning the Chinese economy is taking a very big hit from this too. Soon, however, the situation will come to a head: Either the CCP will have to force/let workers go back to their jobs and risk increasing the spread of the virus or keep them home, which risks literally tearing their economy to pieces, particularly for SMEs.

Given the ongoing decline of the Chinese economy, this might very well be the nail in the coffin.

Doubtful, if this is anything like SARS then the virus eventually be contained or burn itself out by the end of the year and China will go back to business as usual.

This has already surpassed SARS and that caused $50 Billion in damage. Important to note that back then tourism and consumption weren't as large a percent of the Chinese GDP while, likewise, China itself was only 3% of Global GDP and now it is 16%. This isn't even getting into the effects of a prolonged manufacturing slump...

[Novus America]

The current death toll in China is 213, but I think that the true number is far higher than that.

As do I. China has been caught faking the numbers before why wouldn’t they do it again?

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -gdp-data/

Given the PRC’s GDP numbers are probably faked, why would they not fake their health numbers too?
Nothing they say can be trusted.

[Chessmistress]

Problem being that I have a Xiaomi Black Shark arriving from Shenzhen: ordered on 21, departed on 23 January, it's late since it was blocked at customs due to problems with the invoice. They do not believed that it costs only 4 dollars and therefore does not have to pay any import tax . But then they convinced themselves that it only costs 4 dollars, so it left for its trip just today according to the tracking, but the problem of the virus remains and indeed could be even made worse by the fact that the phone remained so long under consideration at the internal exchange center with the package open and examined by various people.

Well I do not think it can live long outside of organic tissue.
You bigger concern is Xiaomi will give all your data to the PRC government.
You bought a piece of spyware.

So the PRC government will be aware about all the flirts of my teenage son?
You know, the phone is for him, it's a gaming phone...

[Novus America]

Doubtful, if this is anything like SARS then the virus eventually be contained or burn itself out by the end of the year and China will go back to business as usual.

This has already surpassed SARS and that caused $50 Billion in damage. Important to note that back then tourism and consumption weren't as large a percent of the Chinese GDP while, likewise, China itself was only 3% of Global GDP and now it is 16%. This isn't even getting into the effects of a prolonged manufacturing slump...

It will hurt them, but their economic numbers are already BS.
They will cover it up, and the greedy governments and corporations of the world will keep them afloat.

[Novus America]

Well I do not think it can live long outside of organic tissue.
You bigger concern is Xiaomi will give all your data to the PRC government.
You bought a piece of spyware.

So the PRC government will be aware about all the flirts of my teenage son?
You know, the phone is for him, it's a gaming phone...

Well sure, just because they have his data might not mean they care.
But say he is gaming with someone in Hong Kong, they mention politics...

Maybe you do not care you bought him spyware by that does not change what it is.
If you are okay with the spying then that is your decision but you should still be aware.