The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Aureumterra]

What is the morality of solitary confinement due to having the Coronavirus? There have been a few small protests over this I believe

[The New California Republic]

What is the morality of solitary confinement due to having the Coronavirus? There have been a few small protests over this I believe

You mean quarantine?

[Aureumterra]

What is the morality of solitary confinement due to having the Coronavirus? There have been a few small protests over this I believe

You mean quarantine?

That’s different. Actual solitary confinement

[The New California Republic]

You mean quarantine?

That’s different. Actual solitary confinement

Do you have an example?

[Novus America]

The infected guy near me is still under isolation at the hospital, hopefully no transmission there. I could see Cali and maybe some eastern states getting a lot of infected, though.

We should all be mostly fine. Our government is testing people for the virus on the daily, many of whom are testing negative, others being quarantined as a proper precaution (even if it's unsure if they have it). Point is - there really aren't many people roaming the streets of the US carrying this virus.

Although we should have shut down travel with the PRC much sooner, and banned all PRC animal and meat imports (well all food and long before this really, SARS and the Avian Flu were also the result of the PRC’s atrocious food safety) actually the CDC seems to be doing a pretty good job detecting and isolating cases here.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Coronavirus is declared global emergency by World Health Organization as outbreak continues to spread outside China

About time

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Edit: and yes, for thematic (and strategic) reasons, I did start it in China, and had symptoms by the time it started spreading (roughly).

Such dedication

[Chessmistress]

What about goods arriving from China?

Not food: clothing, shoes, consumer electronics.

What happens if an infected person had cough near those objects?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What about goods arriving from China?

Not food: clothing, shoes, consumer electronics.

What happens if an infected person had cough near those objects?

I’d think it through before ordering anything from China.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

What about goods arriving from China?

Not food: clothing, shoes, consumer electronics.

What happens if an infected person had cough near those objects?

Spray 'em down with disinfectant if you're afraid that they might be contaminated.

[Chessmistress]

What about goods arriving from China?

Not food: clothing, shoes, consumer electronics.

What happens if an infected person had cough near those objects?

I’d think it through before ordering anything from China.

Problem being that I have a Xiaomi Black Shark arriving from Shenzhen: ordered on 21, departed on 23 January, it's late since it was blocked at customs due to problems with the invoice. They do not believed that it costs only 4 dollars and therefore does not have to pay any import tax . But then they convinced themselves that it only costs 4 dollars, so it left for its trip just today according to the tracking, but the problem of the virus remains and indeed could be even made worse by the fact that the phone remained so long under consideration at the internal exchange center with the package open and examined by various people.

[Chessmistress]

What about goods arriving from China?

Not food: clothing, shoes, consumer electronics.

What happens if an infected person had cough near those objects?

Spray 'em down with disinfectant if you're afraid that they might be contaminated.

Indeed, that was my plan.

[Kvatchdom]

I work with hundreds of Chinese people daily at my work, and it's 99% safe.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’d think it through before ordering anything from China.

Problem being that I have a Xiaomi Black Shark arriving from Shenzhen: ordered on 21, departed on 23 January, it's late since it was blocked at customs due to problems with the invoice. They do not believed that it costs only 4 dollars and therefore does not have to pay any import tax . But then they convinced themselves that it only costs 4 dollars, so it left for its trip just today according to the tracking, but the problem of the virus remains and indeed could be even made worse by the fact that the phone remained so long under consideration at the internal exchange center with the package open and examined by various people.

What I’ve heard is that the virus doesn’t survive in surfaces outside for very long. But if in doubt, spray the crap out of the electronic with disinfectant. Use gloves, wipe it with alcohol wipes.

[Chessmistress]

I work with hundreds of Chinese people daily at my work, and it's 99% safe.

I suppose you work in Finland, not in Shenzhen.

It's not about being Chinese or European, it's about being in a place where there's the virus: Shenzhen is the second place when it comes at the spreading of the virus, just after Wuhan.

If the goods would be arriving from Singapore or Taiwan I wouldn't mind so much, since the virus is extremely rare there (compared to Shenzhen).

[Novus America]

I work with hundreds of Chinese people daily at my work, and it's 99% safe.

What does that have to do with anything?
It is not an ethnic thing.

Nobody is saying only Chinese people can spread the virus.

Just that the virus is a big problem in the PRC controlled parts of Chiba.

[Novus America]

I’d think it through before ordering anything from China.

Problem being that I have a Xiaomi Black Shark arriving from Shenzhen: ordered on 21, departed on 23 January, it's late since it was blocked at customs due to problems with the invoice. They do not believed that it costs only 4 dollars and therefore does not have to pay any import tax . But then they convinced themselves that it only costs 4 dollars, so it left for its trip just today according to the tracking, but the problem of the virus remains and indeed could be even made worse by the fact that the phone remained so long under consideration at the internal exchange center with the package open and examined by various people.

Well I do not think it can live long outside of organic tissue.
You bigger concern is Xiaomi will give all your data to the PRC government.
You bought a piece of spyware.

[Totally Not OEP]

Russia has closed her borders with China....

[Totally Not OEP]

Yahoo News: China being accused of cremating bodies to hide the death toll

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Problem being that I have a Xiaomi Black Shark arriving from Shenzhen: ordered on 21, departed on 23 January, it's late since it was blocked at customs due to problems with the invoice. They do not believed that it costs only 4 dollars and therefore does not have to pay any import tax . But then they convinced themselves that it only costs 4 dollars, so it left for its trip just today according to the tracking, but the problem of the virus remains and indeed could be even made worse by the fact that the phone remained so long under consideration at the internal exchange center with the package open and examined by various people.

Well I do not think it can live long outside of organic tissue.
You bigger concern is Xiaomi will give all your data to the PRC government.
You bought a piece of spyware.

Same with Huawei phones?

[Novus America]

The WHO conference has finished seconds ago, the livestream to rewatch it.

Lots of bowing to the "competence", "transparency" and "hard work" of China. It's a bit embarassing to see.

"China did such a great job handling this situation, no one should be worried"
"BUT WE DECLARE EMERGENCY"
"but this isn't a reason to stop trade with China"

basically

Same WHO that refuses to share information with Taiwan.
Bunch of PRC toadies and sycophants.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

The WHO conference has finished seconds ago, the livestream to rewatch it.

Lots of bowing to the "competence", "transparency" and "hard work" of China. It's a bit embarassing to see.
basically

Same WHO that refuses to share information with Taiwan.
Bunch of PRC toadies and sycophants.

What incentive have they to pander to the PRC?

[Novus America]

Well I do not think it can live long outside of organic tissue.
You bigger concern is Xiaomi will give all your data to the PRC government.
You bought a piece of spyware.

Same with Huawei phones?

Yes. Xiaomi stores all their data on servers in the PRC, that the PRC government has free and open access to. No warrants, no judges.

You basically are giving your data to their secret police.
That is a much higher risk than getting a natural virus from it.

[Totally Not OEP]

Same WHO that refuses to share information with Taiwan.
Bunch of PRC toadies and sycophants.

What incentive have they to pander to the PRC?

Funding.

[Novus America]

Same WHO that refuses to share information with Taiwan.
Bunch of PRC toadies and sycophants.

What incentive have they to pander to the PRC?

Money presumably. WHO is run by world governments, each having and equal vote regardless of size, and of course the PRC has their financial and economic claws in many of the world governments.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Same with Huawei phones?

Yes. Xiaomi stores all their data on servers in the PRC, that the PRC government has free and open access to. No warrants, no judges.

You basically are giving your data to their secret police.
That is a much higher risk than getting a natural virus from it.

So what happens if I never set foot in the PRC again? Do I still risk the PRC government making my browser history public or no?