The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Novus America]

Are you just trying to get a ride out of us?
The PRC is not socialist. And this is the incompetence of the regime making things worse.
Sure this will not destroy the CCP (unfortunately this will not cause they people to overthrow it) but it only shows how flawed the regime is.

It says here:

China's constitution states that The People's Republic of China "is a socialist state under the people's democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and peasants," and that the state organs "apply the principle of democratic centralism."[180] The PRC is one of the world's only socialist states explicitly aiming to build communism. The Chinese government has been variously described as communist and socialist, but also as authoritarian and corporatist,[181] with heavy restrictions in many areas, most notably against free access to the Internet, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, the right to have children, free formation of social organizations and freedom of religion.[182] Its current political, ideological and economic system has been termed by its leaders as the "people's democratic dictatorship", "socialism with Chinese characteristics" (which is Marxism adapted to Chinese circumstances) and the "socialist market economy" respectively.[183]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#Politics

Seems clear cut to me

Umm that Constitution is pure legal fiction. It is pure propaganda and not practiced at all.
Citing fiction does not have any relation to reality. I can write “and pigs will become flying unicorns” in a constitution, but it still means nothing. For a constitution to be meaningful it has to be enforced via the rule of law and separation of powers. Things that do not exist in the PRC.

Besides you failed to answer the part about how the PRC incompetence caused this mess in the first place via a complete lack of food safety enforcement, covering up information and lying.
You claim to support cleanliness and order yet the PRC allows basically any exotic animal to be sold in completely disgusting and dirty conditions.
The PRC is literally a dirty place.

[Imperial Joseon]

I don’t think this new disease is too dangerous. H1N1 had a higher fatality rate.

Better to overreact I think.

Not too dangerous in America and North Korea, at least.

[The New California Republic]

The Chinese People's Republic will prevail and it will endure. The threat of the Wuhan virus... it shall be contained.

Containment has already utterly failed.

[Valentian Elysium]

The Chinese People's Republic will prevail and it will endure. The threat of the Wuhan virus... it shall be contained.

Containment has already utterly failed.

Wow...the analysis shows that every 2 days the amount of infected doubles in China.
And that's just from the reports of the China National Health Commission

[New Visayan Islands]

Containment has already utterly failed.

Wow...the analysis shows that every 2 days the amount of infected doubles in China.
And that's just from the reports of the China National Health Commission

I'm guessing the real numbers might be higher...?

[The New California Republic]

Wow...the analysis shows that every 2 days the amount of infected doubles in China.
And that's just from the reports of the China National Health Commission

I'm guessing the real numbers might be higher...?

Given that infected people are asymptomatic for the first several days, the actual number of infected will undoubtedly be far higher.

[Valentian Elysium]

I'm guessing the real numbers might be higher...?

Given that infected people are asymptomatic for the first several days, the actual number of infected will undoubtedly be far higher.

Wow...the analysis shows that every 2 days the amount of infected doubles in China.
And that's just from the reports of the China National Health Commission

I'm guessing the real numbers might be higher...?

That's why I wrote "And that's just from the reports of the China National Health Commission"

[Samudera Darussalam]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

[The New California Republic]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

The proper N95 respirators are more effective. The masks that we are seeing most of the Chinese wearing are more a placebo than anything else, as their air filtering is nonexistent.

When I have used an N95 for a long period it is actually fatiguing, because it takes considerably more effort to breathe, since you are needing to draw the air through the filters.

A full face gas mask when I have used one is even worse in terms of causing fatigue. Carrying out any physical activity when wearing one becomes exhausting in half the time it would compared to not wearing one.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

When the virus comes to Britain, I'll wear a gas mask.

Not for the virus, but just because it looks cool and I now have an excuse to wear one.

[Stratocratic-Anarchy Oceanic Empire]

Chinese government rlly needs to work with the UN

[Samudera Darussalam]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

The proper N95 respirators are more effective. The masks that we are seeing most of the Chinese wearing are more a placebo than anything else, as their air filtering is nonexistent.

When I have used an N95 for a long period it is actually fatiguing, because it takes considerably more effort to breathe, since you are needing to draw the air through the filters.

A full face gas mask when I have used one is even worse in terms of causing fatigue. Carrying out any physical activity when wearing one becomes exhausting in half the time it would compared to not wearing one.

I'm wondering where actually can we get a N95? I'm used to wear the surgical mask most of the time since I used to spend my time in the lab before, but I guess I never actually see people wear a N95, much less a full face gas mask.

[The New California Republic]

The proper N95 respirators are more effective. The masks that we are seeing most of the Chinese wearing are more a placebo than anything else, as their air filtering is nonexistent.

When I have used an N95 for a long period it is actually fatiguing, because it takes considerably more effort to breathe, since you are needing to draw the air through the filters.

A full face gas mask when I have used one is even worse in terms of causing fatigue. Carrying out any physical activity when wearing one becomes exhausting in half the time it would compared to not wearing one.

I'm wondering where actually can we get a N95? I'm used to wear the surgical mask most of the time since I used to spend my time in the lab before, but I guess I never actually see people wear a N95, much less a full face gas mask.

I've got some. You can buy them on eBay or Amazon or whatever.

[Thermodolia]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

The proper N95 respirators are more effective. The masks that we are seeing most of the Chinese wearing are more a placebo than anything else, as their air filtering is nonexistent.

When I have used an N95 for a long period it is actually fatiguing, because it takes considerably more effort to breathe, since you are needing to draw the air through the filters.

A full face gas mask when I have used one is even worse in terms of causing fatigue. Carrying out any physical activity when wearing one becomes exhausting in half the time it would compared to not wearing one.

For me at least the N95 isn’t that fatiguing. Though I did have one that made it easier to breathe out of

[Thermodolia]

I'm wondering where actually can we get a N95? I'm used to wear the surgical mask most of the time since I used to spend my time in the lab before, but I guess I never actually see people wear a N95, much less a full face gas mask.

I've got some. You can buy them on eBay or Amazon or whatever.

Your local hardware store should have them

[Lost Memories]

"Buy a mask before the chinese buy them all" could be an effective ad


Anyway since this seems like a slow day for news, here's a bit of doomsday speculation for fun.

In Nigeria there is currently a different virus called Lassa fever doing what viruses do (it isn't a new virus, it's quite old, identified since 1969), though it seems far less infective than 2019-nCoV the sympthoms are more 'elaborate':

Symptoms of the disease generally include fever, headache, sore throat, general body weakness, cough, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, muscle pains, chest pain, and in severe cases, unexplainable bleeding from ears, eyes, nose, mouth, vagina, anus and other body orifices. It could also present persistent bleeding from sites of intravenous cannulation.

If nCoV reaches Nigeria, it could infect someone who was already infected with Lassa. It seems that in the case two or more viruses infect the same host there is the possibility of them mixing. So there it is a fast spreading virus which also makes you bleed from your ears.

(from looking more around, it seems recombination needs very similar viruses to work, and the two viruses here are from different groups and also very different, nCoV is a Coronavirus which have positive-sense single-stranded RNA genome with RNA length 30 kb, while Lassa fever is an Arenavirus which have negative-sense, single-stranded RNA viruses with RNA length: (S)segment: 3.4 kb, (L)segment: 7 kb. So it should be impossible for them to mix)

[Imperial Joseon]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

Actually, masks cover up to microbes of 3-4 micrograms, whereas, the particles of the coronavirus are 1-2 micrograms, so masks don't help much.

[The New California Republic]

I've got some. You can buy them on eBay or Amazon or whatever.

Your local hardware store should have them

The N95 is a lot more expensive in comparison to the cheap shitty surgical masks that the Chinese have taken to wearing, so it'd likely be prohibitively expensive for most Chinese to use the N95 at all times.

[The New California Republic]

We should all wear a facial mask everyone:

https://twitter.com/joeltkl/status/1222448200704909314?s=21

Actually, masks cover up to microbes of 3-4 micrograms, whereas, the particles of the coronavirus are 1-2 micrograms, so masks don't help much.

Actually, the size of the Coronavirus is currently not known.

[Imperial Joseon]

Actually, masks cover up to microbes of 3-4 micrograms, whereas, the particles of the coronavirus are 1-2 micrograms, so masks don't help much.

Actually, the size of the Coronavirus is currently not known.

News told me that it's around 1-2 micrograms. I don't know. There's a great deal of fake news, so...

[The New California Republic]

Actually, the size of the Coronavirus is currently not known.

News told me that it's around 1-2 micrograms. I don't know. There's a great deal of fake news, so...

Don't you mean microns?

I haven't seen any news that confirms the size of it, so it is probably just speculation.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Your local hardware store should have them

The N95 is a lot more expensive in comparison to the cheap shitty surgical masks that the Chinese have taken to wearing, so it'd likely be prohibitively expensive for most Chinese to use the N95 at all times.

Not to mention the-DIY.....whatever the thing is that is said to be wore by some people.

[Lost Memories]

Actually, the size of the Coronavirus is currently not known.

News told me that it's around 1-2 micrograms. I don't know. There's a great deal of fake news, so...

The world health organization reported that nCoV mainly spreads by droplets, it isn't airbourne, so what you need to block is aerosol, N95 should be good enough to block small liquid drops.

[Imperial Joseon]

News told me that it's around 1-2 micrograms. I don't know. There's a great deal of fake news, so...

The world health organization reported that nCoV mainly spreads by droplets, it isn't airbourne, so what you need to block is aerosol, N95 should be good enough to block small liquid drops.

What's N95?

[Lost Memories]

The world health organization reported that nCoV mainly spreads by droplets, it isn't airbourne, so what you need to block is aerosol, N95 should be good enough to block small liquid drops.

What's N95?

The masks we're talking about.