The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Ethel mermania]

Well now. Now we have the NCAA going to hold tournaments without fans.

Precautions are good. When does it dip into madness?

About a week ago, on the bright side the commute has been easy

[The Black Forrest]

News blip. When the first Wuhan people were flown to the US; the medical staff was not equipped nor prepared to handle a contagion. MAGA!

[Tombradyonia]

The only saving grace so far is that, despite the initial fuckups in China and Italy, this has so far not affected really huge numbers of people (yet, and I hope it says that way).

Regular flu season has a death rate of under 0.1% (disproportionately elderly folks). This thing (which is decidedly not a flu) seems to be between 2.3 and 3.5% depending on what figures you use.
To put that in numbers, if the whole world caught the flu during flu season, it might mean 6-7 million deaths. If the whole world was to get COVID, that number would be between 150-250 million.

[Rojava Free State]

It's like day 60 of me trying to figure out whether this disease is dangerous or not.

Also the virus just arrived in my state, and it's literally in the next county over.

[The East Marches II]

News blip. When the first Wuhan people were flown to the US; the medical staff was not equipped nor prepared to handle a contagion. MAGA!

Very cool, thank you State Department!

[Rojava Free State]

The only saving grace so far is that, despite the initial fuckups in China and Italy, this has so far not affected really huge numbers of people (yet, and I hope it says that way).

Regular flu season has a death rate of under 0.1% (disproportionately elderly folks). This thing (which is decidedly not a flu) seems to be between 2.3 and 3.5% depending on what figures you use.
To put that in numbers, if the whole world caught the flu during flu season, it might mean 6-7 million deaths. If the whole world was to get COVID, that number would be between 150-250 million.

So it's the Spanish flu of our time.

[Gormwood]

The only saving grace so far is that, despite the initial fuckups in China and Italy, this has so far not affected really huge numbers of people (yet, and I hope it says that way).

Regular flu season has a death rate of under 0.1% (disproportionately elderly folks). This thing (which is decidedly not a flu) seems to be between 2.3 and 3.5% depending on what figures you use.
To put that in numbers, if the whole world caught the flu during flu season, it might mean 6-7 million deaths. If the whole world was to get COVID, that number would be between 150-250 million.

So it's the Spanish flu of our time.

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

It's also the Joe Biden of diseases.

[Seangoli]

It's like day 60 of me trying to figure out whether this disease is dangerous or not.

Also the virus just arrived in my state, and it's literally in the next county over.

Deadlier than the flu, less deadly than SARS.

Unlike the flu, there is likely a good chance of developing chronic lung disease if you are hospitalized and recover from it, due to similarities between it and SARS in what it actually does to the body.

More infectious than SARS, on the level or less infectious as the flu.

Make of that what you will.

[Genivaria]

Senate GOP Blocks Emergency Paid Sick Leave Bill From Moving Forward

It's like they want this to blow up massively by making it impossible for people to effectively self-isolate.

It's the GOP replacement for Obamacare: let all the poor sick people die off so there's less usage of Medicare and Medicaid.

We really need people to start coughing in the Capital Building if that's what it takes to get some fucking action.

[Genivaria]

Angela Merkel says %70 of German citizens could be infected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51835856

[Aureumterra]

Angela Merkel says %70 of German citizens could be infected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51835856

What a reliable leader who always tells the truth!

[Genivaria]

Angela Merkel says %70 of German citizens could be infected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51835856

What a reliable leader who always tells the truth!

My apologies, the article reads 'could CONTRACT the virus' not are currently infected.
My bad.

[The East Marches II]

Angela Merkel says %70 of German citizens could be infected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51835856

Let us hope they plan for such a scenario.

[The Black Forrest]

News blip. When the first Wuhan people were flown to the US; the medical staff was not equipped nor prepared to handle a contagion. MAGA!

Very cool, thank you State Department!

They were set to fail when you have Veruca Salt for a President.

[Seangoli]

Keep in mind that the Spanish Flu only had a 3-4% overall mortality rate. There is also the concern with mutation, and becoming more severe. It is a relative of SARS, for instance, which had Abit a 10% mortality. There is also the concern that it can infect somebody for much longer than most respiratory illness before symptoms present, which makes containment difficult. Even SARS had a comparatively lower germination period, which helped immensely.

Even if it's not "the" big one, it is likely to be a big one. About 2 out of every 1000 people between 18-39 will die from it according to current numbers. This compares to flu at about 2 out of every 100,000.

Reminder: Death rates are based on known infections. The actual rate is probably lower than what's being reported, just like the infection rate is higher than what's been reported.

It could also swing the other way. SARS had a reported mortality in the 3-4% range during the outbreak, but by the end had a 10% rate. Its up in the air.

[Vassenor]

What a reliable leader who always tells the truth!

My apologies, the article reads 'could CONTRACT the virus' not are currently infected.
My bad.

Nothing wrong with your phrasing - I thought the implied "potentially" was clear enough.

[Ethel mermania]

Angela Merkel says %70 of German citizens could be infected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51835856

Yet she still will not close the boarder to italy, she is an idiot

[The East Marches II]

Very cool, thank you State Department!

They were set to fail when you have Veruca Salt for a President.

I had a sensible chuckle. If I remember right about that incident btw, it was such a shitshow CDC didn't want their name anywhere near it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

With cases registering five hours away from us, I’m now starting to get antsy. Working at a hospital and watching contingency plans in action bring things even closer to home. A close friend living in Seattle has confirmed that she and her kid are both sick with CoVID19. She has a compromised respiratory system but they both are expected to make a full recovery.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

The only saving grace so far is that, despite the initial fuckups in China and Italy, this has so far not affected really huge numbers of people (yet, and I hope it says that way).

Regular flu season has a death rate of under 0.1% (disproportionately elderly folks). This thing (which is decidedly not a flu) seems to be between 2.3 and 3.5% depending on what figures you use.
To put that in numbers, if the whole world caught the flu during flu season, it might mean 6-7 million deaths. If the whole world was to get COVID, that number would be between 150-250 million.

Also, if COVID-19 got the same cases as the flu (including the common cold) every year, it would mean around 34 million dead every year, meaning that it would become the world's second most deadly plague ever within 20 years. Within 20 years. The Bubonic Plague, smallpox, cholera, tuberculosis, all less deadly simply because they burned through populations too quickly and too much.

[Fartsniffage]

Angela Merkel says %70 of German citizens could be infected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51835856

Yet she still will not close the boarder to italy, she is an idiot

Does Germany share a border with Italy?

[Aureumterra]

The only saving grace so far is that, despite the initial fuckups in China and Italy, this has so far not affected really huge numbers of people (yet, and I hope it says that way).

Regular flu season has a death rate of under 0.1% (disproportionately elderly folks). This thing (which is decidedly not a flu) seems to be between 2.3 and 3.5% depending on what figures you use.
To put that in numbers, if the whole world caught the flu during flu season, it might mean 6-7 million deaths. If the whole world was to get COVID, that number would be between 150-250 million.

Also, if COVID-19 got the same cases as the flu (including the common cold) every year, it would mean around 34 million dead every year, meaning that it would become the world's second most deadly plague ever within 20 years. Within 20 years. The Bubonic Plague, smallpox, cholera, tuberculosis, all less deadly simply because they burned through populations too quickly and too much.

Except by that point, a vaccine would likely have been developed

[Bromagia]

Reminder: Death rates are based on known infections. The actual rate is probably lower than what's being reported, just like the infection rate is higher than what's been reported.

It could also swing the other way. SARS had a reported mortality in the 3-4% range during the outbreak, but by the end had a 10% rate. Its up in the air.

If the death rate were much higher we'd have noticed by now given how widely unreported infection has probably spread. It'd be hard to miss dramatic rises in pnuemonia cases.

[The East Marches II]

Yet she still will not close the boarder to italy, she is an idiot

Does Germany share a border with Italy?

Yes, the Gau of Wien.

[Thermodolia]

Yet she still will not close the boarder to italy, she is an idiot

Does Germany share a border with Italy?

If Italy occupies the Swiss sure