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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:15 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Thanks to the panic caused by Convid-19, I went to 3 supermarkets to try to purchase toilet paper, and they were all out

What's that?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:20 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Thanks to the panic caused by Convid-19, I went to 3 supermarkets to try to purchase toilet paper, and they were all out

What's that?

Covid-19
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:22 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Thanks to the panic caused by Covid-19, I went to 3 supermarkets to try to purchase toilet paper, and they were all out

I seem to have missed the memo on this one actually. Why are people stocking up on toilet paper? Does Covid give you the shits or something?

Similarly though, my mum (nurse) told me to start stocking up on Paracetamol, cause the generics supplier get it raw material from China. Turns out she was right.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:25 am

Alvecia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Thanks to the panic caused by Covid-19, I went to 3 supermarkets to try to purchase toilet paper, and they were all out

I seem to have missed the memo on this one actually. Why are people stocking up on toilet paper? Does Covid give you the shits or something?

Similarly though, my mum (nurse) told me to start stocking up on Paracetamol, cause the generics supplier get it raw material from China. Turns out she was right.

4 supermarkets, sorry, not three. I guess the reasoning is that if shit hits the fan (pun unintended) and ththere'smass quarantine and/or lowered production, they're covered
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:30 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:What's that?

Covid-19

I think he might be asking what toilet paper is.

It's what you wipe your bum with, if he was.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:32 am

Senkaku wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/us/coronavirus-new-hampshire-dartmouth.html

I fucking hate people

He's a man after my own heart.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:26 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I seem to have missed the memo on this one actually. Why are people stocking up on toilet paper? Does Covid give you the shits or something?

Similarly though, my mum (nurse) told me to start stocking up on Paracetamol, cause the generics supplier get it raw material from China. Turns out she was right.

4 supermarkets, sorry, not three. I guess the reasoning is that if shit hits the fan (pun unintended) and ththere'smass quarantine and/or lowered production, they're covered

Incase someone is quarenteened, they will not run out of toilet paper.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:30 am

Genivaria wrote:
Duhon wrote:
what, and jail him alongside other people?

Which other people are we referring to? Other people who go to public events after being told to isolate themselves?
Then yes.


That seemed pretty obvious. Also, no.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:41 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Which other people are we referring to? Other people who go to public events after being told to isolate themselves?
Then yes.


That seemed pretty obvious. Also, no.

Why should he isolate himself? Personally, I would have done the exact same thing (continued with my normal life.)
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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:58 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
That seemed pretty obvious. Also, no.

Why should he isolate himself? Personally, I would have done the exact same thing (continued with my normal life.)

Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:59 am

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why should he isolate himself? Personally, I would have done the exact same thing (continued with my normal life.)

Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.

How are people supposed to obtain basic supplies if they self isolate?
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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:02 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Andsed wrote:Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.

How are people supposed to obtain basic supplies if they self isolate?

By contacting others. They still have their phones and internet connection. Simply call them and inform them of what you need.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:02 am

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why should he isolate himself? Personally, I would have done the exact same thing (continued with my normal life.)

Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.


At what point did you “know” he had the virus?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:04 am

Andsed wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:How are people supposed to obtain basic supplies if they self isolate?

By contacting others. They still have their phones and internet connection. Simply call them and inform them of what you need.

Too bad if you'te a loner. And/or all your family/friends are interstate/overseas. Also, too bad if you run a business
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:04 am

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why should he isolate himself? Personally, I would have done the exact same thing (continued with my normal life.)

Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.

You're not my problem. I don't care about your health, and even if it was guaranteed that by refusing to self isolate I would endanger people I actually did care about I still wouldn't do it.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:06 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Andsed wrote:By contacting others. They still have their phones and internet connection. Simply call them and inform them of what you need.

Too bad if you'te a loner. And/or all your family/friends are interstate/overseas. Also, too bad if you run a business

Depends on the business. Everyone in the company I work for has the capability to work from home.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:10 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Andsed wrote:Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.


At what point did you “know” he had the virus?

I was referring to the article previously posted here about the man who was told to isolate and refused to.

Australian rePublic wrote:
Andsed wrote:By contacting others. They still have their phones and internet connection. Simply call them and inform them of what you need.

Too bad if you'te a loner. And/or all your family/friends are interstate/overseas. Also, too bad if you run a business

Then just call the police? I am sure they would be willing to help out. And as for business just put someone else in charge for a while. Better than infecting your employees.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Andsed wrote:Because it is only fair to everyone else to not endanger them for your own selfish reasons. This guy and anyone who refuses to self isolate once it is clear they have the virus are twats.

You're not my problem. I don't care about your health, and even if it was guaranteed that by refusing to self isolate I would endanger people I actually did care about I still wouldn't do it.

Than personally I think your a twat.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:11 am

Alvecia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Too bad if you'te a loner. And/or all your family/friends are interstate/overseas. Also, too bad if you run a business

Depends on the business. Everyone in the company I work for has the capability to work from home.

What if you run a customer-facing business, like a shop or restaurant? Just shuttering it for 2 weeks could be a major issue, especially if what you're selling is perishable and you'll have to do a complete restock.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:12 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Depends on the business. Everyone in the company I work for has the capability to work from home.

What if you run a customer-facing business, like a shop or restaurant? Just shuttering it for 2 weeks could be a major issue, especially if what you're selling is perishable and you'll have to do a complete restock.

Then put another person in charge for a while. Pretty simple solution.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:13 am

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:What if you run a customer-facing business, like a shop or restaurant? Just shuttering it for 2 weeks could be a major issue, especially if what you're selling is perishable and you'll have to do a complete restock.

Then put another person in charge for a while. Pretty simple solution.

Like who? It's a little family business, everyone who you could just put in charge has come into contact with you already.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:14 am

Andsed wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
At what point did you “know” he had the virus?

I was referring to the article previously posted here about the man who was told to isolate and refused to.

Australian rePublic wrote:Too bad if you'te a loner. And/or all your family/friends are interstate/overseas. Also, too bad if you run a business

Then just call the police? I am sure they would be willing to help out. And as for business just put someone else in charge for a while. Better than infecting your employees.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:You're not my problem. I don't care about your health, and even if it was guaranteed that by refusing to self isolate I would endanger people I actually did care about I still wouldn't do it.

Than personally I think your a twat.


I know. I still want to know how anyone “knew” he had the virus.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:18 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Andsed wrote:Then put another person in charge for a while. Pretty simple solution.

Like who? It's a little family business, everyone who you could just put in charge has come into contact with you already.

Then just close down the business. Sucks you have to lose some money but think about how much more you would lose if word got out you knew you were infected but fine with endangering your customers.


Chernoslavia wrote:
Andsed wrote:I was referring to the article previously posted here about the man who was told to isolate and refused to.


Then just call the police? I am sure they would be willing to help out. And as for business just put someone else in charge for a while. Better than infecting your employees.


Than personally I think your a twat.


I know. I still want to know how anyone “knew” he had the virus.

What? Why does that matter? The dude was told he may have the virus so he should avoid social gathering to avoid infecting others but then proceeded to ignore that and potentially put others at risk for no good reason. The knowledge of everyone else there is not really relevant to deciding if that was okay or not(it is not.)
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:20 am

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Like who? It's a little family business, everyone who you could just put in charge has come into contact with you already.

Then just close down the business. Sucks you have to lose some money but think about how much more you would lose if word got out you knew you were infected but fine with endangering your customers.


Chernoslavia wrote:
I know. I still want to know how anyone “knew” he had the virus.

What? Why does that matter? The dude was told he may have the virus so he should avoid social gathering to avoid infecting others but then proceeded to ignore that and potentially put others at risk for no good reason. The knowledge of everyone else there is not really relevant to deciding if that was okay or not(it is not.)

Of course it's okay. The others at the social gathering likely meant absolutely nothing to him, so why should he think about them? I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:22 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Andsed wrote:Then just close down the business. Sucks you have to lose some money but think about how much more you would lose if word got out you knew you were infected but fine with endangering your customers.



What? Why does that matter? The dude was told he may have the virus so he should avoid social gathering to avoid infecting others but then proceeded to ignore that and potentially put others at risk for no good reason. The knowledge of everyone else there is not really relevant to deciding if that was okay or not(it is not.)

Of course it's okay. The others at the social gathering likely meant absolutely nothing to him, so why should he think about them? I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit.

None of that matters. Random people still matter and their health and lives should still be considered. It is not all about you.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:22 am

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Like who? It's a little family business, everyone who you could just put in charge has come into contact with you already.

Then just close down the business. Sucks you have to lose some money but think about how much more you would lose if word got out you knew you were infected but fine with endangering your customers.


Chernoslavia wrote:
I know. I still want to know how anyone “knew” he had the virus.

What? Why does that matter? The dude was told he may have the virus so he should avoid social gathering to avoid infecting others but then proceeded to ignore that and potentially put others at risk for no good reason. The knowledge of everyone else there is not really relevant to deciding if that was okay or not(it is not.)


And may not have had it for all anyone knew, in which case the government had no business telling him to isolate himself.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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