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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:47 pm

Bombadil wrote:Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21


A Tweet I saw summarized it perfectly:

Anyone find it odd that China would quarantine several cities with a total population of over 15 million right before their biggest yearly celebration, if as everyone is claiming, there are only a few hundred cases of a disease with a death toll barely beyond influenza?
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:49 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:No matter how many times you keep repeating that last bit, it doesn't count as evidence. If you think this is abnormal, demonstrate that.


Two novel coronavirus outbreaks in 20 years with similar characteristics when nothing of this sort has happened anywhere else on Earth. Name one novel coronavirus that has emerged in the live animal markets, to say nothing of the horrific sanitation of cities in Africa and India.

Coronaviruses aren't exactly unheard of. You've probably had one. They're often mistaken for rhinoviruses.

EDIT: Right now in Arabia, there's a coronavirus called "MERS" that kills 3-4 out of every 10 patients.
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:52 pm

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Two novel coronavirus outbreaks in 20 years with similar characteristics when nothing of this sort has happened anywhere else on Earth. Name one novel coronavirus that has emerged in the live animal markets, to say nothing of the horrific sanitation of cities in Africa and India.

Coronaviruses aren't exactly unheard of. You've probably had one. They're often mistaken for rhinoviruses.


No shit, they're one of the viruses that cause the common cold. Two new ones with unusually high mortality emerging from China in 20 years, especially this one is rather strange since no other novel coronaviridae have emerged anywhere else in the world during the same period, or really at all. China needs to own up and end its offensive biological warfare program before it kills us all. It looks like the Chinese offensive biological warfare program accidentally let loose a more refined version of SARS than the previous iteration.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:54 pm

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Neanderthaland wrote:Coronaviruses aren't exactly unheard of. You've probably had one. They're often mistaken for rhinoviruses.


No shit, they're one of the viruses that cause the common cold. Two new ones from China in 20 years, especially this one is rather strange since no other novel coronaviridae have emerged anywhere else in the world during the same period, or really at all. China needs to own up to and end its offensive biological warfare program before it kills us all.

A really deadly one showed up in Arabia in 2012. It's still active. You're uninformed.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:56 pm

Meanwhile..

“It has been splashed all over the front pages of newspapers around the world for days,” writes Guardian contributor Michael Standaert in Sichuan. “But the outbreak of coronavirus, which has left at least 25 dead and infected more than 800, has been largely missing from China’s major state-run media.”

Friday’s front page of the People’s Daily, the Chinese Communist party’s flagship newspaper, displayed only warm wishes for lunar new year’s eve from the president, Xi Jinping, as he attended a spring festival gala at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing.

News of the coronavirus outbreak has also been buried during prime time CCTV news over the past two evenings, featuring as the fifth or sixth item on the daily 7pm bulletin.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:56 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21


A Tweet I saw summarized it perfectly:

Anyone find it odd that China would quarantine several cities with a total population of over 15 million right before their biggest yearly celebration, if as everyone is claiming, there are only a few hundred cases of a disease with a death toll barely beyond influenza?

China's admitted there's probably several thousand cases, so that's why they're taking every precaution.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:56 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21


A Tweet I saw summarized it perfectly:

Anyone find it odd that China would quarantine several cities with a total population of over 15 million right before their biggest yearly celebration, if as everyone is claiming, there are only a few hundred cases of a disease with a death toll barely beyond influenza?

Oh yeah. I mean, they're definitely lying about the scale of the problem.
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Postby The Fifth Federation » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:56 pm

Next thing we know it Southeast Asia will be infected...and there's no cure..
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:01 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
No shit, they're one of the viruses that cause the common cold. Two new ones from China in 20 years, especially this one is rather strange since no other novel coronaviridae have emerged anywhere else in the world during the same period, or really at all. China needs to own up to and end its offensive biological warfare program before it kills us all.

A really deadly one showed up in Arabia in 2012. It's still active. You're uninformed.


Sure, but it ended pretty fast unlike the Chinese biological weapon accident that is the Wuhan virus.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:03 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:A really deadly one showed up in Arabia in 2012. It's still active. You're uninformed.


Sure, but it ended pretty fast unlike the Chinese biological weapon accident that is the Wuhan virus.

This is just baseless speculation.
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Postby Hakons » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:06 pm

Considering the media freak out about every single disease outbreak, I wonder what it would look like if there were a Spanish Flu level event.

This disease is obviously serious, but I don't think spreading fear through the news or social media is warranted.
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Postby Samadhi » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:07 pm

Hey, heards it's called Kung Flu.

I had a racist chuckle.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:15 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:A really deadly one showed up in Arabia in 2012. It's still active. You're uninformed.


Sure, but it ended pretty fast unlike the Chinese biological weapon accident that is the Wuhan virus.

No it didn't. There was a huge outbreak in Korea in 2015, and the CDC considers it an active threat.

You're wrong 2 for 2 now.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:50 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21

Yes, pneumonia can cause shortness of breath and exertion with such can cause collapse. It's certainly a dangerous virus, but it's not particularly deadly. Tbf, I have confidence in the medical system to find a way to treat it or vaccinate for it pretty rapidly. We're much better prepared for this sort of thing than we were in 1920.

Particularly in the West, which isn't nearly so war-torn

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Postby Kargintina the Third » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:57 pm

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:02 pm

I believe there's an interview circulating with an old SARS hand saying he thought this could be 10 times as big and that the authorities missed their window on sealing off travel? Anyone have a link?
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:05 pm

Senkaku wrote:I believe there's an interview circulating with an old SARS hand saying he thought this could be 10 times as big and that the authorities missed their window on sealing off travel? Anyone have a link?


Top microbiologist states golden window of containment was missed, cost of containment escalating dramatically, virus takes 2-3mo to reach max strength, & morality rates will increase from here. Total scale of outbreak could reach 10x that of SARS. https://t.co/gJglbCoBCn

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Postby Catburg » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:18 pm

The Fifth Federation wrote:Next thing we know it Southeast Asia will be infected...and there's no cure..


If it infects SEA it will probably be a semipermanent problem.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:19 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I believe there's an interview circulating with an old SARS hand saying he thought this could be 10 times as big and that the authorities missed their window on sealing off travel? Anyone have a link?


Top microbiologist states golden window of containment was missed, cost of containment escalating dramatically, virus takes 2-3mo to reach max strength, & morality rates will increase from here. Total scale of outbreak could reach 10x that of SARS. https://t.co/gJglbCoBCn

It's in Chinese though..

nvm SCMP has it: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article ... ese-health

that's a real nice global population ya got there...

...would be a shame if someone, uh.... drowned it in its own lung fluids
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Postby Catburg » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:29 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:A really deadly one showed up in Arabia in 2012. It's still active. You're uninformed.


Sure, but it ended pretty fast unlike the Chinese biological weapon accident that is the Wuhan virus.


I don’t think it is an accident. Someone who could be the CCP fuckers wants to exterminate people in the entire region. There is an ongoing genocidal race war.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:56 pm

Earlier today/yesterday I heard it was 17 dead and now it's 26. It must suck to be in Wuhan right now.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:56 pm

CNN reporter scrambles to flee Wuhan before virus lockdown
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Postby Red Roja » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:02 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Earlier today/yesterday I heard it was 17 dead and now it's 26. It must suck to be in Wuhan right now.


It's a city of 9 million people and it is being quarantined. Public transport is shutdown, police are urging everyone in to stay inside, and a lethal virus is spreading like the flu. It's like a horror-disaster flick, except its real. While the official number is 26, it can easily be much much higher as I wouldn't put it past the Chinese government to try to downplay it as much as possible. They even lie about the air quality and the temperature on hot days.
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Postby Samadhi » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Earlier today/yesterday I heard it was 17 dead and now it's 26. It must suck to be in Wuhan right now.


Now?

Anytime in the past 60-70 years. Now's just even worse.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:07 am

Catburg wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
Sure, but it ended pretty fast unlike the Chinese biological weapon accident that is the Wuhan virus.


I don’t think it is an accident. Someone who could be the CCP fuckers wants to exterminate people in the entire region. There is an ongoing genocidal race war.

Reputable citations please, tto back up this absurd idea you seems to have of the CCP killing their own citizens.

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