The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Catburg]

I think we need to start taking a closer look at what exactly is happening at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Either this was an accidental release similar to the Sverdlovsk or Marburg fiascos or a test run for a new biological weapon refined from the original SARS. Nothing about this situation is natural.

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

[Neanderthaland]

I think we need to start taking a closer look at what exactly is happening at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Either this was an accidental release similar to the Sverdlovsk or Marburg fiascos or a test run for a new biological weapon refined from the original SARS. Nothing about this situation is natural.

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

This is like sombrero levels of tinfoil hat.

[Catburg]

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

This is like sombrero levels of tinfoil hat.

Life is perpetual struggle for continued existence. Genocidal race wars are simply a part of such struggle at a fairly high level. Nothing more, nothing less. May the competent live.

[Totally Not OEP]

Please find me a fuck to give. These dumbasses have exposed millions of people to this disease, and they know it too.

You meant the carriers? Do they even know that they have Wuhan coronavirus at all?

On Weiboo, many are talking about how they took fever suppressants.

[Totally Not OEP]

Unconfirmed reports on Weibo suggest Shanghai's true figures are 107 cases with 32 deaths (This would make this Spanish Flu tier folks!); official figures are 16 cases with no deaths.

That would bring the death ratio closer to around %25 right?

If accurate, yes. Weiboo is like the Chinese Twitter so, obviously, be skeptical of such reports but don't necessarily dismiss them out of hand.

[Neanderthaland]

This is like sombrero levels of tinfoil hat.

Life is perpetual struggle for continued existence. Genocidal race wars are simply a part of such struggle at a fairly high level. Nothing more, nothing less. May the competent live.

Could you please not derail every thread to talk about your inane juvenile race war fantasies? Thanks.

[Lord Dominator]

I think we need to start taking a closer look at what exactly is happening at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Either this was an accidental release similar to the Sverdlovsk or Marburg fiascos or a test run for a new biological weapon refined from the original SARS. Nothing about this situation is natural.

Mass testing that begins on one's own population would seem rather illogical

I think we need to start taking a closer look at what exactly is happening at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Either this was an accidental release similar to the Sverdlovsk or Marburg fiascos or a test run for a new biological weapon refined from the original SARS. Nothing about this situation is natural.

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

Or maybe, just maybe, it's a regular disease (see above).

[Vetalia]

I think we need to start taking a closer look at what exactly is happening at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Either this was an accidental release similar to the Sverdlovsk or Marburg fiascos or a test run for a new biological weapon refined from the original SARS. Nothing about this situation is natural.

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

No, I think there was an accident in the Chinese offensive biological warfare program centered at the Wuhan BSL-4 facility and this one got loose. Either that or this was a test run of a refined version of the SARS/MERS coronavirus. Nothing about this outbreak is normal.

[Neanderthaland]

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

No, I think there was an accident in the Chinese offensive biological warfare program centered at the Wuhan BSL-4 facility and this one got loose. Either that or this was a test run of a refined version of the SARS/MERS coronavirus. Nothing about this outbreak is normal.

No matter how many times you keep repeating that last bit, it doesn't count as evidence. If you think this is abnormal, demonstrate that.

[Totally Not OEP]

According to the latest WHO data, the reproductive value is 1.4 to 2.5, which I think suggests natural causes if accurate.

[Bombadil]

No, I think there was an accident in the Chinese offensive biological warfare program centered at the Wuhan BSL-4 facility and this one got loose. Either that or this was a test run of a refined version of the SARS/MERS coronavirus. Nothing about this outbreak is normal.

No matter how many times you keep repeating that last bit, it doesn't count as evidence. If you think this is abnormal, demonstrate that.

Well.. locking down 8 cities is certainly abnormal.. either they know something we don't or they're massively over-reacting, both equally likely to be fair.

[Neanderthaland]

No matter how many times you keep repeating that last bit, it doesn't count as evidence. If you think this is abnormal, demonstrate that.

Well.. locking down 8 cities is certainly abnormal.. either they know something we don't or they're massively over-reacting, both equally likely to be fair.

To me this just looks like normal CCP shenanigans. A delicious blend of incompetence and authoritarianism. Nothing new under the sun.

I mean, how did we think they were going to react to this? Reasonably? Competently? THAT would be abnormal.

[Greed and Death]

I think we need to start taking a closer look at what exactly is happening at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Either this was an accidental release similar to the Sverdlovsk or Marburg fiascos or a test run for a new biological weapon refined from the original SARS. Nothing about this situation is natural.

It is running roughly equal to Spanish flu in its spread. This seems to crop up once a century or so.

[Pangurstan]

Well.. locking down 8 cities is certainly abnormal.. either they know something we don't or they're massively over-reacting, both equally likely to be fair.

To me this just looks like normal CCP shenanigans. A delicious blend of incompetence and authoritarianism. Nothing new under the sun.

I mean, how did we think they were going to react to this? Reasonably? Competently? THAT would be abnormal.

They underreacted with SARS. Hopefully, they’re overreacting now.

[Bombadil]

Well.. locking down 8 cities is certainly abnormal.. either they know something we don't or they're massively over-reacting, both equally likely to be fair.

To me this just looks like normal CCP shenanigans. A delicious blend of incompetence and authoritarianism. Nothing new under the sun.

I mean, how did we think they were going to react to this? Reasonably? Competently? THAT would be abnormal.

It's just I wouldn't discount the coincidence that the only place in China they store such viruses happens to be ground zero, and that the reaction is to shut down some 20-25 million people.

Personally I think it's the general eating of live animals - videos circulating online are just.. - and the wide variety of wild animals at that, however I think one should be open to entertaining it's a security leak.

[Totally Not OEP]

I don't buy the "Overreacting because of SARs" argument because locking down eight cities, at Lunar New Year, doesn't fit their MO; it's caused lots of chaos and is definitely an embarrassment to do so.

[Vetalia]

No, I think there was an accident in the Chinese offensive biological warfare program centered at the Wuhan BSL-4 facility and this one got loose. Either that or this was a test run of a refined version of the SARS/MERS coronavirus. Nothing about this outbreak is normal.

No matter how many times you keep repeating that last bit, it doesn't count as evidence. If you think this is abnormal, demonstrate that.

Two novel coronavirus outbreaks in 20 years with similar characteristics when nothing of this sort has happened anywhere else on Earth. Name one novel coronavirus that has emerged in the live animal markets, to say nothing of the horrific sanitation of cities in Africa and India.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Or maybe someone is waging a genocidal race war against us?

No, I think there was an accident in the Chinese offensive biological warfare program centered at the Wuhan BSL-4 facility and this one got loose. Either that or this was a test run of a refined version of the SARS/MERS coronavirus. Nothing about this outbreak is normal.

If it's a biological weapon, it's not a very good one, it doesn't appear to be particularly deadly.

[Bombadil]

Honestly what's being shared online in comparison to how the news is being reported.. something's going on..

Footage has emerged online of the quarantine measures being taken in China to halt the spread of the virus, including overcrowded hospitals, sick people collapsing, and barricades going up across Wuhan.

There one video of a man just face planted into the pavement having suddenly collapsed.

[Vetalia]

No, I think there was an accident in the Chinese offensive biological warfare program centered at the Wuhan BSL-4 facility and this one got loose. Either that or this was a test run of a refined version of the SARS/MERS coronavirus. Nothing about this outbreak is normal.

If it's a biological weapon, it's not a very good one, it doesn't appear to be particularly deadly.

It's either an accident or a test run with a much less lethal version of the ultimate product designed to assess transmissible strength.

[Greed and Death]

Honestly what's being shared online in comparison to how the news is being reported.. something's going on..

Footage has emerged online of the quarantine measures being taken in China to halt the spread of the virus, including overcrowded hospitals, sick people collapsing, and barricades going up across Wuhan.

There one video of a man just face planted into the pavement having suddenly collapsed.

Cases in Europe confirmed. Cases in the US are suspected.

Things are about to get crazy the world over.

[Bombadil]

Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21

[Vetalia]

Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21

Don't fear the reaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQXqZ8JJktw

[United Muscovite Nations]

Just an ordinary mild virus peeps.. https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/122 ... 74528?s=21

Yes, pneumonia can cause shortness of breath and exertion with such can cause collapse. It's certainly a dangerous virus, but it's not particularly deadly. Tbf, I have confidence in the medical system to find a way to treat it or vaccinate for it pretty rapidly. We're much better prepared for this sort of thing than we were in 1920.

[The Fifth Federation]

The communist regime needs to be overthrown ASAP or they will eventually cause the majority of the people under its rule to die.

How so?