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Postby Pacomia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:38 pm

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Postby Pacomia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:39 pm

Pangurstan wrote:
Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:
There is all this stuff about suspected cases across the rest of the world right now but most have not been confirmed by my understanding. So I am going to be an optimist and hope many of these cases are just something else which has fallen in the net with this happening.

There’s one confirmed case 20 miles north of me. It doesn’t sound like the guy infected anyone though.

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:55 pm

Some scientific details were also released, with the WHO saying 25% of reported cases were developing severe symptoms.

There is a preliminary estimate of the average number of people each infected person passes the virus on to (known as the R0 value) of between 1.4 and 2.5. Any number greater than one means the virus has the potential to spread in the population, but this is lower than the figure for Sars.

And in Wuhan a "fourth-generation case" has been detected - this is a sustained chain of transmission involving four people. It remains too early to call the true extent of human-to-human transmission.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51230011
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:36 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Some scientific details were also released, with the WHO saying 25% of reported cases were developing severe symptoms.

There is a preliminary estimate of the average number of people each infected person passes the virus on to (known as the R0 value) of between 1.4 and 2.5. Any number greater than one means the virus has the potential to spread in the population, but this is lower than the figure for Sars.

And in Wuhan a "fourth-generation case" has been detected - this is a sustained chain of transmission involving four people. It remains too early to call the true extent of human-to-human transmission.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51230011


2.5 R0 value. Not great, not terrible.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:


2.5 R0 value. Not great, not terrible.

And for context the R0 value of the 1918 pandemic was somewhere between 1.4 and 2.8, and swine flu was between 1.4 and 1.6. But as the article says, it's too early to precisely calculate the R0 value of this strain of Coronavirus, with the estimate being preliminary.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:45 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
2.5 R0 value. Not great, not terrible.

And for context the R0 value of the 1918 pandemic was somewhere between 1.4 and 2.8, and swine flu was between 1.4 and 1.6. But as the article says, it's too early to precisely calculate the R0 value of this strain of Coronavirus, with the estimate being preliminary.


2.5 would be very bad. 3 would be heading for full on pandemic.

I'm hoping for the lower numbers. I've had regular flu twice this winter and bollocks to another virus.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:56 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And for context the R0 value of the 1918 pandemic was somewhere between 1.4 and 2.8, and swine flu was between 1.4 and 1.6. But as the article says, it's too early to precisely calculate the R0 value of this strain of Coronavirus, with the estimate being preliminary.


2.5 would be very bad. 3 would be heading for full on pandemic.

I'm hoping for the lower numbers. I've had regular flu twice this winter and bollocks to another virus.

Yes I hope that containment measures are effective. I'm not sure how effective containment in China itself will be at this point, considering it has already spread to many other provinces.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:59 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
2.5 would be very bad. 3 would be heading for full on pandemic.

I'm hoping for the lower numbers. I've had regular flu twice this winter and bollocks to another virus.

Yes I hope that containment measures are effective. I'm not sure how effective containment in China itself will be at this point, considering it has already spread to many other provinces.


The horse has bolted. If it's 2.5-3 then how the rest of the world deals with it will be fun.

Still, seems to be a very low death rate so far. Plenty of misery but low mortality is my current bet.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:02 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes I hope that containment measures are effective. I'm not sure how effective containment in China itself will be at this point, considering it has already spread to many other provinces.


The horse has bolted. If it's 2.5-3 then how the rest of the world deals with it will be fun.

Still, seems to be a very low death rate so far. Plenty of misery but low mortality is my current bet.

yeah I got worried when I heard from the local news that a possible case of the virus was spotted in a university student in my home town which by my flag you could easily deduce which university that is.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:05 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The horse has bolted. If it's 2.5-3 then how the rest of the world deals with it will be fun.

Still, seems to be a very low death rate so far. Plenty of misery but low mortality is my current bet.

yeah I got worried when I heard from the local news that a possible case of the virus was spotted in a university student in my home town which by my flag you could easily deduce which university that is.


If you're over 60, have existing health problems, and have a Chinese level health care insurance setup then you should be really scared.

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Postby Lanorth » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:05 pm

I doubt this will be as big as The Spanish Flu, or at least, I hope it won't.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:09 pm

Lanorth wrote:I doubt this will be as big as The Spanish Flu, or at least, I hope it won't.


Even if the virus is as bad as Spanish flu, the result won't be. We now have anti-viral medications, quickly developed vaccines, and a proper understanding of how diseases spread.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:11 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes I hope that containment measures are effective. I'm not sure how effective containment in China itself will be at this point, considering it has already spread to many other provinces.


The horse has bolted. If it's 2.5-3 then how the rest of the world deals with it will be fun.

Still, seems to be a very low death rate so far. Plenty of misery but low mortality is my current bet.

As the WHO said, 25% of reported cases are developing severe symptoms, "not great, not terrible" etc.
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:yeah I got worried when I heard from the local news that a possible case of the virus was spotted in a university student in my home town which by my flag you could easily deduce which university that is.


If you're over 60, have existing health problems, and have a Chinese level health care insurance setup then you should be really scared.

well come this summer ill be half to 60 and have good ole Uncle Sam to pay for my health care plus I'm fat, lazy, and have been really sick last year so I guess I'm shit out of luck. the only good thing is I'm nowhere near Chinese just Eastern European. but in my job I am around airline passengers and screen people but we have no direct flights to or from China at the airport I work at.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Lanorth » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:14 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Lanorth wrote:I doubt this will be as big as The Spanish Flu, or at least, I hope it won't.


Even if the virus is as bad as Spanish flu, the result won't be. We now have anti-viral medications, quickly developed vaccines, and a proper understanding of how diseases spread.

Lets hope so. First seeing this got me spooked, but I am alright now, after a little thought and realisation of the medications we have to provent such viruses and as you mentioned, an understanding of how they spread.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:17 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Lanorth wrote:I doubt this will be as big as The Spanish Flu, or at least, I hope it won't.


Even if the virus is as bad as Spanish flu, the result won't be. We now have anti-viral medications, quickly developed vaccines, and a proper understanding of how diseases spread.

On the other hand though the distances and readiness by which human vectors can travel has increased many many times in comparison to 1918. If this latest strain of Coronavirus was present in a 1918-era of transportation then we wouldn't have seen nearly the same speed and variation of spread.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
If you're over 60, have existing health problems, and have a Chinese level health care insurance setup then you should be really scared.

well come this summer ill be half to 60 and have good ole Uncle Sam to pay for my health care plus I'm fat, lazy, and have been really sick last year so I guess I'm shit out of luck. the only good thing is I'm nowhere near Chinese just Eastern European. but in my job I am around airline passengers and screen people but we have no direct flights to or from China at the airport I work at.


You have socialised healthcare? :o

I'm sorry dude. Just make sure your life insurance is up to date. You're doomed.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:well come this summer ill be half to 60 and have good ole Uncle Sam to pay for my health care plus I'm fat, lazy, and have been really sick last year so I guess I'm shit out of luck. the only good thing is I'm nowhere near Chinese just Eastern European. but in my job I am around airline passengers and screen people but we have no direct flights to or from China at the airport I work at.


You have socialised healthcare? :o

I'm sorry dude. Just make sure your life insurance is up to date. You're doomed.

no I'm on a federal employee version of blue cross blue shield. I do pay into it but its way the hell less then if I bought health insurance on my own. plus I'll probably die from over dosing on Dr.Pepper before I die of coronavirus
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“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:26 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You have socialised healthcare? :o

I'm sorry dude. Just make sure your life insurance is up to date. You're doomed.

no I'm on a federal employee version of blue cross blue shield. I do pay into it but its way the hell less then if I bought health insurance on my own. plus I'll probably die from over dosing on Dr.Pepper before I die of coronavirus


.....I can still hear Gig em Aggies sometimes. Almost like he survived his brush with bad flu and having socialised healthcare. :(

Godspeed Gig em. We loved you. *cries*

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:29 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:no I'm on a federal employee version of blue cross blue shield. I do pay into it but its way the hell less then if I bought health insurance on my own. plus I'll probably die from over dosing on Dr.Pepper before I die of coronavirus


.....I can still hear Gig em Aggies sometimes. Almost like he survived his brush with bad flu and having socialised healthcare. :(

Godspeed Gig em. We loved you. *cries*

I'm back I just had Dr. Strange do his wizardry magic with the time stone
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:16 pm

Confirmed cases in Mexico, suspected in LA. Latest Chinese figures suggest the fatality rate is almost 5% now.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:26 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:Confirmed cases in Mexico, suspected in LA. Latest Chinese figures suggest the fatality rate is almost 5% now.

Well that's a wonderful figure...

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:35 pm

And, within the last few minutes, a suspected case in Texas.

At this point, containment seems to have failed.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:37 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:And, within the last few minutes, a suspected case in Texas.

At this point, containment seems to have failed.

Houston!????
That's where my family is.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:39 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:And, within the last few minutes, a suspected case in Texas.

At this point, containment seems to have failed.

Houston!????
That's where my family is.


No that's just a Houston news channel reporting about the student who is a student at Texas A&M which is in College Station which is my hometown.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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