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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:25 am
by Nakena
Rojava Free State wrote:
Moscareinas wrote:and of course trump goes on to tout the effectiveness of hydrochloroquine and azt like a literal snake-oil shill


His own CDC representative said they were only doing trials and were not gonna know immediately if it works.

And here's trump saying "this drug has been on the market for years and we're gonna use it to treat COVID almost immediately!"


It's just one of the many things considered. Things that might be usable.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... s-vaccines

Emphasis on might.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:28 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:29 am
by Nakena
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?


Carbonhydrates are required in those dire times more than ever. Gimme me choclet.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:29 am
by Cisairse
The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:30 am
by Nakena
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


And thus began the Corona Wars

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:30 am
by Saiwania
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I know a lot of disabled people who'd disagree with the last part of your post.


The harsh truth is nonetheless clear, they're of no further use to themselves or anyone else if at or towards the End of Life stage.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:30 am
by Cisairse
Nakena wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


And thus began the Corona Wars


I, for one, am ready to throw my hat into the ring of civil war.

I hope whatever faction I find most politically appealing has weapons for me and people who can train me how to use them.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:31 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

Since when was SL working for the new York times?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:32 am
by Moscareinas
Nakena wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?


Carbonhydrates are required in those dire times more than ever. Gimme me choclet.


did somebody say... chocolate?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:33 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
Cisairse wrote:
Nakena wrote:
And thus began the Corona Wars


I, for one, am ready to throw my hat into the ring of civil war.

I hope whatever faction I find most politically appealing has weapons for me and people who can train me how to use them.

We are a band of brothers and native to the soil, fighting for the property we gained by honest toil. And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far, to raise on high the bonnie blue flag that bears a single star.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:33 am
by Nakena
Moscareinas wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Carbonhydrates are required in those dire times more than ever. Gimme me choclet.


did somebody say... chocolate?


Yes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:33 am
by San Lumen
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

I don’t think many are thinking about this. Shutting everything down indefinitely or allowing this to become the norm will lead up exactly what this paragraph says

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:34 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
San Lumen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

I don’t think many are thinking about this. Shutting everything down indefinitely or allowing this to become the norm will lead up exactly what this paragraph says

You should sue them for wripping off your ideas. Is the truth copyrightable?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:35 am
by Gormwood
Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump is a salesman down to his bones, spurs and all.


Last but not least Trump Steaks.

And Trump Vodka. Liquor from a man who claims never to drink. Goes well with Jewish ham and Hindu steak.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:35 am
by Thermodolia
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

Like I’ve been saying for awhile our current system is dead. It’s going to get overthrown

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:35 am
by San Lumen
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don’t think many are thinking about this. Shutting everything down indefinitely or allowing this to become the norm will lead up exactly what this paragraph says

You should sue them for wripping off your ideas. Is the truth copyrightable?

I’m not copyright I’m public domain

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:35 am
by Rojava Free State
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:37 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

It's already crazy, people are in fucking la-la land.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:37 am
by Rojava Free State
Nakena wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


And thus began the Corona Wars


I'm forming the Utica Defense Association, also known as the UDA. What do we want? Something. When do we want it? Soon maybe?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:37 am
by San Lumen
Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

That depends on how long we want to keep everything shut down and keep canceled or postponed anything that gave anyone joy

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:37 am
by Thermodolia
Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.


This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

Worst case a Lenin, Mussolini, or Hitler type gains popularity and over throws the government and establishes their new vision

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:38 am
by San Lumen
Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

Worst case a Lenin, Mussolini, or Hitler type gains popularity and over throws the government and establishes their new vision

It isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Hitler came to power due to economic recession in Germany

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:38 am
by Thermodolia
San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

That depends on how long we want to keep everything shut down and keep canceled or postponed anything that gave anyone joy

Ya still got the Internet. JOing is still an option

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:39 am
by San Lumen
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

It's already crazy, people are in fucking la-la land.

I’ve accepted I’m probably staying in country for awhile. I’m probably not going back to the city for a few months

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:39 am
by Cisairse
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.


The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

Since when was SL working for the new York times?


Excellent question.