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Postby Tourais » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:19 am

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Ifreann wrote:If you keep having to explain that you're not being racist, then it's a bad name.


If we challenge the opinions of Priests, we are automatically heretics. Very good reasoning! You are really helping your point :^)

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:22 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump did mess up, and it did spread, probably from America to other countries including within America. So clearly that


It's a fact that that's a stupid way to name diseases, because multiple disease can originate in the same country.

If you keep having to explain that you're not being racist, then it's a bad name.

The norovirus. named after the city it originated in. Dats RACIST. FUCK NORWOOD OHIO!!!

Good thing it's impossible for another virus to ever originate in Norwood, Ohio, otherwise that'd be a stupid name.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:24 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The norovirus. named after the city it originated in. Dats RACIST. FUCK NORWOOD OHIO!!!

Good thing it's impossible for another virus to ever originate in Norwood, Ohio, otherwise that'd be a stupid name.

As far as wuhan is concerned

The next one can be
Wuhan 2, uptown boogaloo
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How about no?

How about stop pretending to care about the economy when everyone can tell that you're just freaking out about self-isolating?

Im also looking at the big picture that shutting everything down indefinitely is unsustainable. South Korea has the right approach

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:26 am

Liriena wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:•The Chinese government did fuck all to stop it

They locked down the entire region in a strict quarantine. The actual consensus is that their handling of the pandemic, after it broke out, was stellar. Authoritarian as hell, but stellar.


...after people began dropping dead. This doctor warned them ahead of time and they forced him to say he was wrong about it.

This didn't need to happen this way.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Liriena wrote:They locked down the entire region in a strict quarantine. The actual consensus is that their handling of the pandemic, after it broke out, was stellar. Authoritarian as hell, but stellar.


...after people began dropping dead. This doctor warned them ahead of time and they forced him to say he was wrong about it.

This didn't need to happen this way.

China could have also closed their borders and none of this would be happening

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:28 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Good thing it's impossible for another virus to ever originate in Norwood, Ohio, otherwise that'd be a stupid name.

As far as wuhan is concerned

The next one can be
Wuhan 2, uptown boogaloo


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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:29 am

Tourais wrote:In Louisiana it has been reported that 1,047 people have been tested for COVID-19 and 479 (45.7%) have tested positive.
However, those who have been tested have already exhibited "extensive COVID-19 symptoms."

---> https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/heal ... 95cad6016d


Just calling it right now, Louisiana is doomed if this is down there. Remember how things went after Hurricane Katrina?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:31 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It didnt originate in America though. If it did, and Trump messed things up and it spread elsewhere, it would be the American flu.

Trump did mess up, and it did spread, probably from America to other countries including within America. So clearly a leader being incompetent isn't relevant to the name being applied to the virus.

It is a Chinese virus. It comes from china. This is just a fact.

It's a fact that that's a stupid way to name diseases, because multiple disease can originate in the same country.
It isn't racist because it has nothing to do with chinese people, because anyone can get the virus and most of the victims at this point are probably not even Chinese.

If you keep having to explain that you're not being racist, then it's a bad name.


I guess from now on we won't talk about the ethnicity of people when something bad happens. Under this same logic, speaking of the "Arab hijackers" on 9/11 is racist to Arabs.

The virus originated in China. Maybe we shouldn't just call it China virus, but the wuhan disaster of 2020? That totally works.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:32 am

San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
...after people began dropping dead. This doctor warned them ahead of time and they forced him to say he was wrong about it.

This didn't need to happen this way.

China could have also closed their borders and none of this would be happening


China can't get enough flack for this.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Tourais » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:33 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Liriena wrote:They locked down the entire region in a strict quarantine. The actual consensus is that their handling of the pandemic, after it broke out, was stellar. Authoritarian as hell, but stellar.


...after people began dropping dead. This doctor warned them ahead of time and they forced him to say he was wrong about it.

This didn't need to happen this way.

^This. People praising China after they let 80,000+ cases slip by...

It's not as if they always had everything under control. They may have fixed the issue by now, but they were in a huge slump a few months before.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:39 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How about stop pretending to care about the economy when everyone can tell that you're just freaking out about self-isolating?

Im also looking at the big picture that shutting everything down indefinitely is unsustainable.

People keep explaining to you ways that it could be sustained, and you dismiss them out of hand or go to silly extremes, as if printing more money can only ever cause disastrous hyperinflation.
South Korea has the right approach

South Korea acted quickly and contained the spread of the virus. It is no longer possible for other countries to do that. We can't just now try to copy South Korea, we'd all fucking die. Our only option now is to slow the spread of the virus, so that our hospitals aren't overwhelmed like in Italy.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:40 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:China could have also closed their borders and none of this would be happening


China can't get enough flack for this.


My favorite part was when the WHO posted uncritically Chinese findings that it may not be human to human transmissible on January 14th. Well done lads!

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im also looking at the big picture that shutting everything down indefinitely is unsustainable.

People keep explaining to you ways that it could be sustained, and you dismiss them out of hand or go to silly extremes, as if printing more money can only ever cause disastrous hyperinflation.
South Korea has the right approach

South Korea acted quickly and contained the spread of the virus. It is no longer possible for other countries to do that. We can't just now try to copy South Korea, we'd all fucking die. Our only option now is to slow the spread of the virus, so that our hospitals aren't overwhelmed like in Italy.


Wishful thinking takes us nowhere. All we can do now is deal with the emergency. The quarantine periods will be stretched over several periods until we can bring things under control.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:47 am

San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
...after people began dropping dead. This doctor warned them ahead of time and they forced him to say he was wrong about it.

This didn't need to happen this way.

China could have also closed their borders and none of this would be happening

That would have required them to have foreknowledge that it was going to develop human-to-human spread, which at the time they didn't know. It would have also required them to know that it would spread with greater virulence than the common cold, which they also couldn't have predicted because they had so little data to go on. It was, in fact, the exact line of reasoning you promote of "what are we going to do? Shut down everything and let our economy suffer?" that led Chinese authorities to deny (probably even to the point they believed it too) the severity of the situation until there was no more denying it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:53 am

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/p ... eprimanded

Just take a look at them now. You know it's bad when China apologizes for acting like authoritarian dicks.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:54 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
China can't get enough flack for this.


My favorite part was when the WHO posted uncritically Chinese findings that it may not be human to human transmissible on January 14th. Well done lads!


I wanna know WHO declared them to be the World Health Organization?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Moscareinas » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:55 am

yo, americans, have you ever been told that you are HARD AS FUCK TO CONVINCE that this contagion is a fucking thing and you have to take it fucking seriously?

for by good lord, after just half a day at this iamthisneartowishingthefuckingplagueatyourhousesifitmeansyoufinallytakethisshitseriously

it's not just this most malevolent of maladministrations, it's the people it has left to fend for itaelf
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:56 am

Rojava Free State wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/488620-china-issues-solemn-apology-to-late-doctor-reprimanded

Just take a look at them now. You know it's bad when China apologizes for acting like authoritarian dicks.

They were already preparing to do this. He was released prior to his death and the police and officials who ordered his arrest were reprimanded by the Chinese Supreme Court, which said "Perhaps if the public had known the information Dr. Li was trying to provide, the extreme measures now being undertaken would not be necessary."
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Postby Moscareinas » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:57 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
China can't get enough flack for this.


My favorite part was when the WHO posted uncritically Chinese findings that it may not be human to human transmissible on January 14th. Well done lads!


january 14 was light-years ago in terms of info ago about this virus, march
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
...after people began dropping dead. This doctor warned them ahead of time and they forced him to say he was wrong about it.

This didn't need to happen this way.

China could have also closed their borders and none of this would be happening

if they had done that y'alls would've been shrieking about having your cheap chinese products delayed for seemingly no reason
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Postby Moscareinas » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:02 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:
San Lumen wrote:China could have also closed their borders and none of this would be happening

if they had done that y'alls would've been shrieking about having your cheap chinese products delayed for seemingly no reason


i'd have assumed no, that's not remotely how people would've gone about it, least of all trumpsters, but after half a day trying to convince americans this is a thing?

holy shit, it's a possibility
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:07 am

Trump's right: Congress should give Americans $1,000 right now to fight the coronavirus recession

Apologies if this has already been brought up. They should consider making this permanent. It's what the late, great Sir Lord Yang, OAE, MAE, of Schenectady in the County of Westchester, would have wanted. Bless him. *Sniff* *Wipes tear from cheek*
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