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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:48 am

Zurkerx wrote:
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Tbqh this should happen federally for the next month. Give it time to die in people who already have it and hopefully prevent new cases and whatnot.


I'm honestly not sure if the Federal Government has that authority to do a complete shutdown across the entire country. I know States can.


John Roberts has made his decision, now let him enforce it :p
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:48 am

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I'm honestly not sure if the Federal Government has that authority to do a complete shutdown across the entire country. I know States can.



Then you should be happy to hear a majority Americans will be getting a check from the Feds, that's if they pass the stimulus, which is likely. Of course, I suspect if this goes beyond the month's pay, then that could be a problem. It would probably be better to beef up unemployment benefits.


we also can't shut down the world indefinitely.

And unless you have UBI that check isn't going to last long for many.


Dunno if you noticed, but we kinda have.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:49 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
we also can't shut down the world indefinitely.

And unless you have UBI that check isn't going to last long for many.


Dunno if you noticed, but we kinda have.


Yes we have but unless you want a depression that will make the 1930s look like good times things to have to reopen

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:51 am

Fartsniffage wrote:Ooooh. Just remembered I've not watched 12 Monkeys for a while. That's tonight sorted out.

It makes me wonder if the streaming services are noticing a spike in the number of people watching disease-themed films and TV shows.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:54 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Ooooh. Just remembered I've not watched 12 Monkeys for a while. That's tonight sorted out.

It makes me wonder if the streaming services are noticing a spike in the number of people watching disease-themed films and TV shows.


Yes. On one less than legal website I know of, Contagion is currently the 4th most downloaded movie.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:55 am

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Dunno if you noticed, but we kinda have.


Yes we have but unless you want a depression that will make the 1930s look like good times things to have to reopen


That's just a given now. I think we passed the point of no return last week.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:56 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It makes me wonder if the streaming services are noticing a spike in the number of people watching disease-themed films and TV shows.


Yes. On one less than legal website I know of, Contagion is currently the 4th most downloaded movie.

and its all happening exactly as the movie predicted

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Yes. On one less than legal website I know of, Contagion is currently the 4th most downloaded movie.

and its all happening exactly as the movie predicted


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Postby Thepeopl » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Dunno if you noticed, but we kinda have.


Yes we have but unless you want a depression that will make the 1930s look like good times things to have to reopen

Nope, just nationalise all houses, buildings and hospitals. Kick out the banks, grab all assets from everyone, yes also the negative ones. Put the counter to zero. Give everyone 2000 credits, they can buy food, gasoline or clothes for that. Let's start over.
Free healthcare for everyone, free education for everyone free housing for everyone.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:58 am

Thepeopl wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yes we have but unless you want a depression that will make the 1930s look like good times things to have to reopen

Nope, just nationalise all houses, buildings and hospitals. Kick out the banks, grab all assets from everyone, yes also the negative ones. Put the counter to zero. Give everyone 2000 credits, they can buy food, gasoline or clothes for that. Let's start over.

How about no?

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:59 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It makes me wonder if the streaming services are noticing a spike in the number of people watching disease-themed films and TV shows.


Yes. On one less than legal website I know of, Contagion is currently the 4th most downloaded movie.

Might download some for the weekend, be part of the tide.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:59 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump's mismanagement has led to it spreading all over America. Look at Italy, maybe we should call it the Italian Flu, but then explain that we only mean the Italian government, not Italian people in general.



The belligerent parties had all instituted press controls to keep national morale up, so the British papers, for example, couldn't say anything about all the Britons dying of flu. Spain didn't have that kind of censorship in place, so their papers did report on all the flu deaths there, and word spread to other countries and they also reported on the flu deaths in Spain, and thus Spanish Flu.


It didnt originate in America though. If it did, and Trump messed things up and it spread elsewhere, it would be the American flu.

Trump did mess up, and it did spread, probably from America to other countries including within America. So clearly a leader being incompetent isn't relevant to the name being applied to the virus.

It is a Chinese virus. It comes from china. This is just a fact.

It's a fact that that's a stupid way to name diseases, because multiple disease can originate in the same country.
It isn't racist because it has nothing to do with chinese people, because anyone can get the virus and most of the victims at this point are probably not even Chinese.

If you keep having to explain that you're not being racist, then it's a bad name.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:00 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Yes. On one less than legal website I know of, Contagion is currently the 4th most downloaded movie.

Might download some for the weekend, be part of the tide.


So far I've done Contagion, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Outbreak, and Patient Zero.

I'd forgotten how weird Patient Zero was. Doctor Who meets Game of Thrones in a post-apocalyptic scenario. Very odd.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:01 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Might download some for the weekend, be part of the tide.


So far I've done Contagion, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Outbreak, and Patient Zero.

I'd forgotten how weird Patient Zero was. Doctor Who meets Game of Thrones in a post-apocalyptic scenario. Very odd.

I can't watch any of that stuff right now. I dont like when fiction becomes reality
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:06 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:Nope, just nationalise all houses, buildings and hospitals. Kick out the banks, grab all assets from everyone, yes also the negative ones. Put the counter to zero. Give everyone 2000 credits, they can buy food, gasoline or clothes for that. Let's start over.

How about no?

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Postby Thepeopl » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:06 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Ooooh. Just remembered I've not watched 12 Monkeys for a while. That's tonight sorted out.

It makes me wonder if the streaming services are noticing a spike in the number of people watching disease-themed films and TV shows.

Yup they do, and also they see a spike in viewers, so badly so that they downgrade the image quality to prevent site crashes

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:08 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Might download some for the weekend, be part of the tide.


So far I've done Contagion, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Outbreak, and Patient Zero.

I'd forgotten how weird Patient Zero was. Doctor Who meets Game of Thrones in a post-apocalyptic scenario. Very odd.

Oh yes, "Outbreak" was one of the films I was trying to remember, thanks for reminding me.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:10 am

Thepeopl wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It makes me wonder if the streaming services are noticing a spike in the number of people watching disease-themed films and TV shows.

Yup they do, and also they see a spike in viewers, so badly so that they downgrade the image quality to prevent site crashes

I wonder if SiriusXm has seen an increase in subscriptions as well. Im surprised they are still having live shows.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:11 am

We've been considering watching World War Z...

Although from what I've heard about it, avoiding the movie and going straight to the book might be a better option.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:11 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:We've been considering watching World War Z...

Although from what I've heard about it, avoiding the movie and going straight to the book might be a better option.

Its a shame the sequel never happened

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:12 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:We've been considering watching World War Z...

Although from what I've heard about it, avoiding the movie and going straight to the book might be a better option.


The movie, imo, isn't as awful as some say and I actually think some of the liberties it takes in diverging from the book make it better but it's not perfect by any means.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It didnt originate in America though. If it did, and Trump messed things up and it spread elsewhere, it would be the American flu.

Trump did mess up, and it did spread, probably from America to other countries including within America. So clearly that

It is a Chinese virus. It comes from china. This is just a fact.

It's a fact that that's a stupid way to name diseases, because multiple disease can originate in the same country.
It isn't racist because it has nothing to do with chinese people, because anyone can get the virus and most of the victims at this point are probably not even Chinese.

If you keep having to explain that you're not being racist, then it's a bad name.

The norovirus. named after the city it originated in. Dats RACIST. FUCK NORWOOD OHIO!!!
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:13 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:Nope, just nationalise all houses, buildings and hospitals. Kick out the banks, grab all assets from everyone, yes also the negative ones. Put the counter to zero. Give everyone 2000 credits, they can buy food, gasoline or clothes for that. Let's start over.

How about no?

How about stop pretending to care about the economy when everyone can tell that you're just freaking out about self-isolating?

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:14 am

Ifreann wrote:If you keep having to explain that you're not being racist, then it's a bad name.


If we challenge the opinions of Priests, we are automatically heretics. Very good reasoning! You are really helping your point :^)

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In Louisiana it has been reported that 1,047 people have been tested for COVID-19 and 479 (45.7%) have tested positive.
However, those who have been tested have already exhibited "extensive COVID-19 symptoms."

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