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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:58 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And in the process, saving millions of lives. Because slower outbreaks overwhelm healthcare systems less.

What do you reckon is the monetary value of a life?


As a starting point, lifetime earnings should average out somewhere over £1m in todays money under reasonable assumptions, so that gives us a lower bound.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:58 am

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Cisairse wrote:The New York Times: Don’t trust memes that promise cures


They claim that snorting coke and masturbating cure coronavirus.

And people say I'm crazy for thinking this is the apocalypse. I'm sorry, a world this stupid isn't fit for a crisis of this magnitude.

Those things might make you worry less about it, and it's the fear that's the most dangerous thing at the moment.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:58 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Yes! This is what I've been trying to tell people!


The fact that you don't care if you live or die and cannot focus on things beyond your personal comfort is not enlightenment it is an emotional crisis you're failing to process.

How bad does he have it in personal life when he's relatively posh compared to everyone else but constantly emos a desire for everyone to kill each other off through spreading coronavirus?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:59 am

Gormwood wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
The fact that you don't care if you live or die and cannot focus on things beyond your personal comfort is not enlightenment it is an emotional crisis you're failing to process.

How bad does he have it in personal life when he's relatively posh compared to everyone else but constantly emos a desire for everyone to kill each other off through spreading coronavirus?

Rich and posh are not the same thing. I am definitely not posh.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:00 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:What do you reckon is the monetary value of a life?


As a starting point, lifetime earnings should average out somewhere over £1m in todays money under reasonable assumptions, so that gives us a lower bound.

The thing is though the people at risk of dying from coronavirus are the people who are likely to have the least lifetime remaining.
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“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:00 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Italy won't violently overthrow its government, just vote them out. Probably will go far right.

Could go left. In the aftermath of a disaster of insufficient hospital resources, who better to vote for than the people who have always been calling for more public spending on the like of hospitals?

The populists also advocate for social spending. Though I’m pretty sure that Mussolini 2.0 will come to power in Italy once this is over.

Next who is gonna be Hitler and Stalin
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:00 am

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My question is should I expect to expect to need a weapon in the future? Because, if so, I may be able to acquire something resembling a weapon now, before I actually expect to need a weapon.


I don't know. So yes.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:01 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?


I want the United States Government to take every Instagram and snapchat thot, I mean model, and send them to me during the crisis. Also I want enough marijuana to last me a whole year assuming i smoke a joint once every four hours. Also I wanna be able to quarantine with my ten closest friends. And keep my parents in their house. Do that, and I wont go outside for a year.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:01 am

Cisairse wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
You should own a weapon prior to expecting to need a weapon.


My question is should I expect to expect to need a weapon in the future? Because, if so, I may be able to acquire something resembling a weapon now, before I actually expect to need a weapon.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/2020/0 ... 887260001/

I would assume yes.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:02 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Gormwood wrote:How bad does he have it in personal life when he's relatively posh compared to everyone else but constantly emos a desire for everyone to kill each other off through spreading coronavirus?

Rich and posh are not the same thing. I am definitely not posh.


I can be posh sometimes. If i want to.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:02 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Could go left. In the aftermath of a disaster of insufficient hospital resources, who better to vote for than the people who have always been calling for more public spending on the like of hospitals?

This is Italy. They're going to blame it on migrants.

True, but aren't the people who'll blame it on migrants already in government? Seems to me that they'll be they'll be taking a lot of blame themselves.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:03 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?


I want the United States Government to take every Instagram and snapchat thot, I mean model, and send them to me during the crisis. Also I want enough marijuana to last me a whole year assuming i smoke a joint once every four hours. Also I wanna be able to quarantine with my ten closest friends. And keep my parents in their house. Do that, and I wont go outside for a year.

I just say we shutdown Instagram and all other social media for the time being. Therm approved ThermTV will be shown
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Postby Andsed » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:03 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And in the process, saving millions of lives. Because slower outbreaks overwhelm healthcare systems less.

What do you reckon is the monetary value of a life?

I reckon it is an utterly irrelevant factor.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:04 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:This is Italy. They're going to blame it on migrants.

True, but aren't the people who'll blame it on migrants already in government? Seems to me that they'll be they'll be taking a lot of blame themselves.

No. The people who would blame it on the migrants are in the opposition
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:04 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And in the process, saving millions of lives. Because slower outbreaks overwhelm healthcare systems less.

What do you reckon is the monetary value of a life?


The U.S. Dept. of Commerce estimates it at about $9 million
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:04 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I want the United States Government to take every Instagram and snapchat thot, I mean model, and send them to me during the crisis. Also I want enough marijuana to last me a whole year assuming i smoke a joint once every four hours. Also I wanna be able to quarantine with my ten closest friends. And keep my parents in their house. Do that, and I wont go outside for a year.

I just say we shutdown Instagram and all other social media for the time being. Therm approved ThermTV will be shown


I'm not watching it unless I find it interesting.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:04 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Could go left. In the aftermath of a disaster of insufficient hospital resources, who better to vote for than the people who have always been calling for more public spending on the like of hospitals?

The populists also advocate for social spending. Though I’m pretty sure that Mussolini 2.0 will come to power in Italy once this is over.

Next who is gonna be Hitler and Stalin


We already have Putin.

Hitler 2 will be interesting, though.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:This is Italy. They're going to blame it on migrants.

True, but aren't the people who'll blame it on migrants already in government? Seems to me that they'll be they'll be taking a lot of blame themselves.

When Harding got elected in 1920 In a landslide one of his campaign slogans was a return to normalcy

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:05 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
My question is should I expect to expect to need a weapon in the future? Because, if so, I may be able to acquire something resembling a weapon now, before I actually expect to need a weapon.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/2020/0 ... 887260001/

I would assume yes.


oof

aight
time to find a nice rock
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:05 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Italy won't violently overthrow its government, just vote them out. Probably will go far right.

Could go left. In the aftermath of a disaster of insufficient hospital resources, who better to vote for than the people who have always been calling for more public spending on the like of hospitals?

Italy will probably go extreme. Whether left or right probably depends more on who can campaign well than on the nature of the crisis.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:05 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I want the United States Government to take every Instagram and snapchat thot, I mean model, and send them to me during the crisis. Also I want enough marijuana to last me a whole year assuming i smoke a joint once every four hours. Also I wanna be able to quarantine with my ten closest friends. And keep my parents in their house. Do that, and I wont go outside for a year.

I just say we shutdown Instagram and all other social media for the time being. Therm approved ThermTV will be shown


I support this
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:05 am



Every time people kill each other the news pretends the last thing that happens was the one that really mattered. Look at any case of "murder over video game/ice cream/price of bagels"
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:06 am

Cisairse wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:What do you reckon is the monetary value of a life?


The U.S. Dept. of Commerce estimates it at about $9 million


Of course the United States Department of Commerce would run a study like that and give an actual monetary number.

They knew they could do it, but they never asked if they should do it.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:06 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:True, but aren't the people who'll blame it on migrants already in government? Seems to me that they'll be they'll be taking a lot of blame themselves.

When Harding got elected in 1920 In a landslide one of his campaign slogans was a return to normalcy


Which is what Biden is doing.
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