The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Nakena]

and of course trump goes on to tout the effectiveness of hydrochloroquine and azt like a literal snake-oil shill

His own CDC representative said they were only doing trials and were not gonna know immediately if it works.

And here's trump saying "this drug has been on the market for years and we're gonna use it to treat COVID almost immediately!"

It's just one of the many things considered. Things that might be usable.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... s-vaccines

Emphasis on might.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?

[Nakena]

would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?

Carbonhydrates are required in those dire times more than ever. Gimme me choclet.

[Cisairse]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

[Nakena]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

And thus began the Corona Wars

[Saiwania]

I know a lot of disabled people who'd disagree with the last part of your post.

The harsh truth is nonetheless clear, they're of no further use to themselves or anyone else if at or towards the End of Life stage.

[Cisairse]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

And thus began the Corona Wars

I, for one, am ready to throw my hat into the ring of civil war.

I hope whatever faction I find most politically appealing has weapons for me and people who can train me how to use them.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

Since when was SL working for the new York times?

[Moscareinas]

would it help if the government provided free sweets and happy gas to all during this pandemic?

Carbonhydrates are required in those dire times more than ever. Gimme me choclet.

did somebody say... chocolate?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

And thus began the Corona Wars

I, for one, am ready to throw my hat into the ring of civil war.

I hope whatever faction I find most politically appealing has weapons for me and people who can train me how to use them.

We are a band of brothers and native to the soil, fighting for the property we gained by honest toil. And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far, to raise on high the bonnie blue flag that bears a single star.

[Nakena]

Carbonhydrates are required in those dire times more than ever. Gimme me choclet.

did somebody say... chocolate?

Yes.

[San Lumen]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

I don’t think many are thinking about this. Shutting everything down indefinitely or allowing this to become the norm will lead up exactly what this paragraph says

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

I don’t think many are thinking about this. Shutting everything down indefinitely or allowing this to become the norm will lead up exactly what this paragraph says

You should sue them for wripping off your ideas. Is the truth copyrightable?

[Gormwood]

Trump is a salesman down to his bones, spurs and all.

Last but not least Trump Steaks.

And Trump Vodka. Liquor from a man who claims never to drink. Goes well with Jewish ham and Hindu steak.

[Thermodolia]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

Like I’ve been saying for awhile our current system is dead. It’s going to get overthrown

[San Lumen]

I don’t think many are thinking about this. Shutting everything down indefinitely or allowing this to become the norm will lead up exactly what this paragraph says

You should sue them for wripping off your ideas. Is the truth copyrightable?

I’m not copyright I’m public domain

[Rojava Free State]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

It's already crazy, people are in fucking la-la land.

[Rojava Free State]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

And thus began the Corona Wars

I'm forming the Utica Defense Association, also known as the UDA. What do we want? Something. When do we want it? Soon maybe?

[San Lumen]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

That depends on how long we want to keep everything shut down and keep canceled or postponed anything that gave anyone joy

[Thermodolia]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

Worst case a Lenin, Mussolini, or Hitler type gains popularity and over throws the government and establishes their new vision

[San Lumen]

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

Worst case a Lenin, Mussolini, or Hitler type gains popularity and over throws the government and establishes their new vision

It isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Hitler came to power due to economic recession in Germany

[Thermodolia]

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

That depends on how long we want to keep everything shut down and keep canceled or postponed anything that gave anyone joy

Ya still got the Internet. JOing is still an option

[San Lumen]

This is what I worry about. How crazy will society get because of the plague?

It's already crazy, people are in fucking la-la land.

I’ve accepted I’m probably staying in country for awhile. I’m probably not going back to the city for a few months

[Cisairse]

The New York Times: It’s Dangerous to Be Ruled by Fear

And what if a “suppression” strategy of school closures, restaurant shutdowns, home quarantines, bans on gatherings of more than a few people, and other methods of social distancing lasts 18 months — the estimate of how long it might take to develop and distribute a safe and effective vaccine?

In that case, we are looking at a century-defining calamity that could bankrupt the government; wreck nearly every business in America, large or small; disrupt supply chains and create critical shortfalls of food, medicines, and other essential items; lead to dramatic increases in deaths of loneliness and despair; tempt political leaders, including the president, to disavow democratic norms in the name of public health (including by seeking to postpone elections); and create widespread, perhaps deadly, civil unrest.

The article is a lot longer, but I liked this part enough to copy it.

Since when was SL working for the new York times?

Excellent question.