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Postby Galloism » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:51 pm

Nakena wrote:
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You’re not entirely aware what’s up, are you? We are going to have periods of isolation, followed by periods of activity. Creating that way the much needed herd immunity. We’re not going to be down for months on end. If you guys stopped buying into hysterical conspiracies or listening to people who have no clue as to what’s happening, you would’ve found this out. Jesus.


this pretty much. Been saying that all the time. the idea of lockdowns is to keep the number of extreme cases manageable by health care system and the deat rate low.

Notably, this is why Italy's death rate has been climbing. A lot of people in italy are dying right now that could have been saved, if their healthcare system hadn't been completely drowned by volume of the critically ill.

Right now, doctors are choosing who lives and who dies, based on the limited and equipment available. They've literally waived their final exams for med students and rushed them into practice. They are throwing literally everything they have at the problem, and doctors are still facing the problem of:

Maria, the 45 year old mother; Frank the 19 year old fresh out of high school; Giuseppe, the 75 year old grandfather; and Sofia, the 10 year old child.

One ventilator. Who gets it?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:51 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I thought Gallo was like properly rich? Don't you have the best healthcare America can offer?

Everyone has to make hard choices, rich or poor. I have to make hard choices and I don’t make much money. Albeit, I live with my mom, but I have to be aware of what my family does. Nana and Gallo are trying their best. You have to try too, and you have to be aware of everyone. Rich or poor.

I'm aware of what I do, not quite as much how it will affect people I don't know.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:51 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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My state has also banned foreclosures. Nobody is losing their home.

So how are banks supposed to make money? Great, let's cause another 2007, that'll be nice.


Literally what does it cost a bank to not foreclose property that other people are managing, maintaining, and living in

Tell me the dollar amount. Show me a bill.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:51 pm

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But it’s better to go bonkers.


Irrational reactions were to be expected. (panic buying)

More severe ones are likely to follow within forseeable future.


Oh, absolutely. And those who overreact are the kind of nincompoops who will end up putting others at risk. Because this fucking idea that “government can’t make me do shit” attitude. One I’ve seen displayed in this thread a few times. The attitude that is causing less than half of Americans to follows fucking instructions and isolate. No. That’s too much to ask. It’s outstandingly stupid, you know.

I’m irritated now. Later.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:With isolation...go isolate if you want to, as long as it doesn't affect me I give zero shits.

Honestly on the parents point though, block your kids from stuff. They'll hate you, and use my services so I make money and they still get free access to the internet so everyone wins but the bad parents.


The government advice takes into account people like you. You're vital in fact. Your "decision" to keep moving around is central to the plan. You're doing exactly what the government wants you to do. And this amuses me so very much.

I'm planning on fucking off. I think that's what the government wants me to do.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Irrational reactions were to be expected. (panic buying)

More severe ones are likely to follow within forseeable future.


Oh, absolutely. And those who overreact are the kind of nincompoops who will end up putting others at risk. Because this fucking idea that “government can’t make me do shit” attitude. One I’ve seen displayed in this thread a few times. The attitude that is causing less than half of Americans to follows fucking instructions and isolate. No. That’s too much to ask. It’s outstandingly stupid, you know.

I’m irritated now. Later.


I can feel ya. That kind of attitude, might cause more problems than the virus itself soon enough.

it has a lot to do with sense of entitlement and in many case inability/unwillingness to understand the situation.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm

I think we all need to just chillax and have some nice fresh garlic bread during this time of tension.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Everyone has to make hard choices, rich or poor. I have to make hard choices and I don’t make much money. Albeit, I live with my mom, but I have to be aware of what my family does. Nana and Gallo are trying their best. You have to try too, and you have to be aware of everyone. Rich or poor.

I'm aware of what I do, not quite as much how it will affect people I don't know.

*Sighs*

Don't know or just don't care?

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Postby Cisairse » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:54 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I think we all need to just chillax and have some nice fresh garlic bread during this time of tension.



Yo I fuckin love garlic braed
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Postby Nakena » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:55 pm

I use real garlic for it.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:55 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Everyone has to make hard choices, rich or poor. I have to make hard choices and I don’t make much money. Albeit, I live with my mom, but I have to be aware of what my family does. Nana and Gallo are trying their best. You have to try too, and you have to be aware of everyone. Rich or poor.

I'm aware of what I do, not quite as much how it will affect people I don't know.

All of your actions have a ripple effect. If you’re nice to someone, and you make them happy, they’ll be in a better mood when they meet other people. When they smile at others, they bring happiness to others. They might bring light to someone who has had a terrible day. That smile from the person you smiled at might keep another person from quitting their job or killing themselves.

This is a simplification, but your actions are always linked to people you don’t know. That’s why we should spread kindness.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:55 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:So how are banks supposed to make money? Great, let's cause another 2007, that'll be nice.


Literally what does it cost a bank to not foreclose property that other people are managing, maintaining, and living in

Tell me the dollar amount. Show me a bill.

Banks make there profit predictions based on expected returns, one of the most important of these is people paying their mortgage payments month on month, or if they don't the bank having some way to either force them too or seize a valuable asset. Without that ability one of the most important pieces in banking falls, and so banks are left in a less predictable and less rewarding position than they once were. Thus, banks stop giving credit as without an end date they don't know when they'll even start to see a return on that credit. Thus, 2007.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:55 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I think we all need to just chillax and have some nice fresh garlic bread during this time of tension.

I made black bean burgers, very delicious.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:55 pm

For whom it may concern:



2 hours ago: Catburg was refounded in Osiris.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The government advice takes into account people like you. You're vital in fact. Your "decision" to keep moving around is central to the plan. You're doing exactly what the government wants you to do. And this amuses me so very much.

I'm planning on fucking off. I think that's what the government wants me to do.


To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.

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Postby Cisairse » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Nakena wrote:I use real garlic for it.


As you should
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I think we all need to just chillax and have some nice fresh garlic bread during this time of tension.

Omg, I should totally share my recipe
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“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Nakena wrote:For whom it may concern:



2 hours ago: Catburg was refounded in Osiris.

Prepare for the awesome racial war theories /s

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Postby Nakena » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I'm planning on fucking off. I think that's what the government wants me to do.


To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.


The Isle of Man.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:57 pm

Nakena wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.


The Isle of Man.

FIELD TRIP. Or not.

Darn it. No field trips. :(
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:57 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I'm planning on fucking off. I think that's what the government wants me to do.


To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.

I can get the ferry to Ireland, get a flight using my passport from there right?
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Postby LRON » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:57 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I'm planning on fucking off. I think that's what the government wants me to do.


To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.

Perhaps Carlisle...
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Postby Des-Bal » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You’re not entirely aware what’s up, are you? We are going to have periods of isolation, followed by periods of activity. Creating that way the much needed herd immunity. We’re not going to be down for months on end. If you guys stopped buying into hysterical conspiracies or listening to people who have no clue as to what’s happening, you would’ve found this out. Jesus.


Unless of course you're high risk or are unlikely to be made whole by the restoration of activity. This neglects that the proposal makes several potentially deadly assumptions.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:58 pm

LRON wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.

Perhaps Carlisle...

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:59 pm

Nakena wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
To where? No one good is letting Brits come into the country right now.


The Isle of Man.


The Isle of Mann made the first arrest for dodging quarantine in the UK today.

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