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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:50 am

Valrifell wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Wanting to have an enjoyable life is hardly unreasonable pride.


Imagine lacking this much self-preservation instinct

I don't have much self-preservation instinct, I admit this.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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Raab is fucking delusional...or high. There isn't a chance the UK will be leaving the EU by the end of the year now.

NO DEAL YAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHOOOOOOOOP!! ;P
BOOOOOOOOO??... WHAAAAAA?!?!?... GA Leg to members: HIIIIIIDE!!... HMMMMMM... Something too nuanced to be condensed into one syllable: Twitter plans to isolate proponents of alleged nCoV cures etc...
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Postby Bromagia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ireland is going to suspend, for the duration of this emergency, the powers of landlords to increase rents and to serve tenants with notice to quit. Tenants will continue to owe rent, and rent assistance will be available to those who cannot afford their rent, while landlords are being given a three month holiday on mortgage payments.

Global emergency? Gotta make sure the landlords are getting their money. This fucking country.

You should be happy, the banks are getting screwed, you can get the Kulaks later

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Wanting to have an enjoyable life is hardly unreasonable pride.


Just think of it as being sick and home-ridden for a few weeks, something that has certainly happened to many of us. But instead of having brutal symptoms, you feel kinda fine and have a socially acceptable excuse to wear PJs and do your hobbies all day.

I don't need a socially acceptable excuse to do that.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:52 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:NO DEAL YAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHOOOOOOOOP!! ;P
BOOOOOOOOO??... WHAAAAAA?!?!?... HMMMMMM... Something too nuanced to be condensed into one syllable: Twitter plans to isolate proponents of alleged nCoV cures etc...

Twitter has gotten far too ban-happy lately.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:52 am

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Novus America wrote:
I agree, although I would rather look at 2-4 weeks.


Time will tell, I could've sworn I had read this morning that things are finally beginning to get less gruesome in Italy after their lockdowns have been largely effective. If us Americans can overcome our proclivity for cockiness and pride in dire times, we might just get through this quickly as well.


No situation in Italy is escalating as of now, with Hospital and Health care system reaching their limit and being overhelmed.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:53 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Just think of it as being sick and home-ridden for a few weeks, something that has certainly happened to many of us. But instead of having brutal symptoms, you feel kinda fine and have a socially acceptable excuse to wear PJs and do your hobbies all day.

I don't need a socially acceptable excuse to do that.


Then just do it.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:53 am

Nakena wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Time will tell, I could've sworn I had read this morning that things are finally beginning to get less gruesome in Italy after their lockdowns have been largely effective. If us Americans can overcome our proclivity for cockiness and pride in dire times, we might just get through this quickly as well.


No situation in Italy is escalating as of now, with Hospital and Health care system reaching their limit and being overhelmed.


I could've sworn that their case growth was finally slowing, fuck.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:54 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't need a socially acceptable excuse to do that.


Then just do it.

I want to see what new craft beers my local pubs have on though. I like craft beer.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:55 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Then just do it.

I want to see what new craft beers my local pubs have on though. I like craft beer.


Shit, me too, but we gotta wait. I just stocked up on Titos and Club Soda, stores are still open, you can see what they got.

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Postby Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:55 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Nakena wrote:
No situation in Italy is escalating as of now, with Hospital and Health care system reaching their limit and being overhelmed.


I could've sworn that their case growth was finally slowing, fuck.


Coronavirus live updates: Italy overtakes China's death toll

Italy's death toll from coronavirus pandemic rose to 3,405 overtaking total number of deaths so far registered in China.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/ ... 16951.html

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:55 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:WHOOOOOOOOP!! ;P
BOOOOOOOOO??... WHAAAAAA?!?!?... HMMMMMM... Something too nuanced to be condensed into one syllable: Twitter plans to isolate proponents of alleged nCoV cures etc...

Twitter has gotten far too ban-happy lately.

I'm fine with Twitter denying services to proponents of "Miracle" "Mineral" "Supplement" actually.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:57 am

^^^ THIS
Major-Tom wrote:
Nakena wrote:
No situation in Italy is escalating as of now, with Hospital and Health care system reaching their limit and being overhelmed.


I could've sworn that their case growth was finally slowing, fuck.

Note the increase of daily cases after "I stay at home" was implemented
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:57 am

Nakena wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I could've sworn that their case growth was finally slowing, fuck.


Coronavirus live updates: Italy overtakes China's death toll

Italy's death toll from coronavirus pandemic rose to 3,405 overtaking total number of deaths so far registered in China.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/ ... 16951.html


Fuck.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:57 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I want to see what new craft beers my local pubs have on though. I like craft beer.


Shit, me too, but we gotta wait. I just stocked up on Titos and Club Soda, stores are still open, you can see what they got.

Titos is so expensive here unfortunately. Sadly, craft beer ranges in stores in Britain are fucking awful.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:58 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Twitter has gotten far too ban-happy lately.

I'm fine with Twitter denying services to proponents of "Miracle" "Mineral" "Supplement" actually.


Urgh, I am generally not in favor of censorship, specifically not by Jack Dorsey's Twitter but I can't say that this is something I am exactly opposed to, either.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:58 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Wanting to have an enjoyable life is hardly unreasonable pride.


Just think of it as being sick and home-ridden for a few weeks, something that has certainly happened to many of us. But instead of having brutal symptoms, you feel kinda fine and have a socially acceptable excuse to wear PJs and do your hobbies all day.


Tfw panic buyers have bought all your hobby material...
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:58 am

Telconi wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Just think of it as being sick and home-ridden for a few weeks, something that has certainly happened to many of us. But instead of having brutal symptoms, you feel kinda fine and have a socially acceptable excuse to wear PJs and do your hobbies all day.


Tfw panic buyers have bought all your hobby material...


TP? :p
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:59 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Twitter has gotten far too ban-happy lately.

I'm fine with Twitter denying services to proponents of "Miracle" "Mineral" "Supplement" actually.

Why? If it gives people even unfounded hope, if they continue to take the silly measures the government is requesting what damage is done?
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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ireland is going to suspend, for the duration of this emergency, the powers of landlords to increase rents and to serve tenants with notice to quit. Tenants will continue to owe rent, and rent assistance will be available to those who cannot afford their rent, while landlords are being given a three month holiday on mortgage payments.

Global emergency? Gotta make sure the landlords are getting their money. This fucking country.

You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all landlords own hundreds of properties. They don't. The vast majority of landlords are renting out one or two places, and still owe mortgages on those places. If tenants didn't have to pay rent, they wouldn't have a house to stay in as the bank would have it instead.

Small scale landlords are exactly who I'm thinking about here. They're being given a break on their mortgage payments. They won't lose the properties they're renting out.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:59 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I'm fine with Twitter denying services to proponents of "Miracle" "Mineral" "Supplement" actually.

Why? If it gives people even unfounded hope, if they continue to take the silly measures the government is requesting what damage is done?

Have you tried the burning sensation as bleach chemically incinerates your esophagus?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all landlords own hundreds of properties. They don't. The vast majority of landlords are renting out one or two places, and still owe mortgages on those places. If tenants didn't have to pay rent, they wouldn't have a house to stay in as the bank would have it instead.

Small scale landlords are exactly who I'm thinking about here. They're being given a break on their mortgage payments. They won't lose the properties they're renting out.

Are the landlords still responsible for maintenance?
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Postby Novus America » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:00 am



Although 99% had previously health conditions, and Italy has very poor demographics.
Given how old their society is, and their absurdly high smoking rate they are pretty screwed.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:00 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why? If it gives people even unfounded hope, if they continue to take the silly measures the government is requesting what damage is done?

Have you tried the burning sensation as bleach chemically incinerates your esophagus?

Yes...Yes I have.
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“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

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Postby Telconi » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:00 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Tfw panic buyers have bought all your hobby material...


TP? :p


Obviously.
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