The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

[Thermodolia]

I'd much rather eat bat or snake than blue cheese or steak tartare, thanks.

I'd eat blue cheese than a bat.

I don’t eat any cheese so if it was a choice between cheese and a bat I’m probably gonna go hungry as the bat is a major ick factor and I’d rather not get sick from the cheese

[Greed and Death]

I'd eat blue cheese than a bat.

I don’t eat any cheese so if it was a choice between cheese and a bat I’m probably gonna go hungry as the bat is a major ick factor and I’d rather not get sick from the cheese

It is pretty good if prepared correctly.

I have some bat in my freezer I ordered from China. Iw as thinking of having a bat cook out and inviting a bunch of NSGers.

[Lost Memories]

I've just come to a realization, for a society based on fear like china, what happens when people are more scared of a virus than the government?

People in china don't help others in need because of fear of legal damage(from a broken justice system), they don't speak out what they see because of fear of the intelligence agencies, officials blindly execute orders because of fear of the army, the same officials who let milions starve to death during the Great Leap Forward for fear to appear unpatriotic for reporting agricultural yields below expectations.
For the same reasons we are now suspecting officials to have covered up the first outbreak of this virus, and to be continuing to do so in other chinese regions outside Hubei, for fear of the government reaction on them. Government which further reinforced the fear mechanic by announcing harsher punishment for anyone not following state guidelines.

What happens when there is a new fear bigger than all the others?
Probably not much of a change, so long the reasoning remains fear driven.



That came to mind after seeing this image gallery from a city in central cina (population 10 milions)
https://imgur.com/a/oG9nQoD
And after giving a quick read about the Great Leap Forward

[Thermodolia]

It's just like the flu but less lethal, remember that. The 25% mortality scrubbed from TenCent is just fake news just like the theories about it being a biological weapon run amok.

I don´t disagree with you here but the fact that so many cites have been put in lockdown is concerning as hell and indication that the outbreak may be far worse than the PRC is letting on.

I think that was sarcasm

[Greed and Death]

I've just come to a realization, for a society based on fear like china, what happens when people are more scared of a virus than the government?

People in china don't help others in need because of fear of legal damage(from a broken justice system), they don't speak out what they see because of fear of the intelligence agencies, officials blindly execute orders because of fear of the army, the same officials who let milions starve to death during the Great Leap Forward for fear to appear unpatriotic for reporting agricultural yields below expectations.
For the same reasons we are now suspecting officials to have covered up the first outbreak of this virus, and to be continuing to do so in other chinese regions outside Hubei, for fear of the government reaction on them. Government which further reinforced the fear mechanic by announcing harsher punishment for anyone not following state guidelines.

What happens when there is a new fear bigger than all the others?
Probably not much of a change, so long the reasoning remains fear driven.



That came to mind after seeing this image gallery from a city in central cina (population 10 milions)
https://imgur.com/a/oG9nQoD
And after giving a quick read about the Great Leap Forward

That is almost certainly why they down play this.

[Catburg]

I've just come to a realization, for a society based on fear like china, what happens when people are more scared of a virus than the government?

People in china don't help others in need because of fear of legal damage(from a broken justice system), they don't speak out what they see because of fear of the intelligence agencies, officials blindly execute orders because of fear of the army, the same officials who let milions starve to death during the Great Leap Forward for fear to appear unpatriotic for reporting agricultural yields below expectations.
For the same reasons we are now suspecting officials to have covered up the first outbreak of this virus, and to be continuing to do so in other chinese regions outside Hubei, for fear of the government reaction on them. Government which further reinforced the fear mechanic by announcing harsher punishment for anyone not following state guidelines.

What happens when there is a new fear bigger than all the others?
Probably not much of a change, so long the reasoning remains fear driven.



That came to mind after seeing this image gallery from a city in central cina (population 10 milions)
https://imgur.com/a/oG9nQoD
And after giving a quick read about the Great Leap Forward

This is why China implodes every 200-300 years often with 50%+ deaths. The coronavirus if not controlled may lead to another round of implosion.

[Greed and Death]

A blogger reporting on a larger out break than the government has admitted to has gone missing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/09/asia/wuh ... index.html

[Valrifell]

A blogger reporting on a larger out break than the government has admitted to has gone missing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/09/asia/wuh ... index.html

No doubt he simply went on a spontaneous vacation to Xinjiang after winning a lottery hosted by the CCP.

[Gormwood]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

[Valrifell]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

The deaths caused by the Spanish flu are an order of magnitude (or several, I haven't checked) greater than that of this virus, and again there were exceptional circumstances that lead to the spread of the Spanish flu and also it was 100 years ago.

I saw that someone tried to argue that last point by saying that, somehow, hygiene is still as bad in developed nations as it was 100 years ago but that is simply untrue. Like I don't know how to tell you this, but 100 years ago the entire concept of a virus was new and sanitation is self-evidently nowhere near comparable to today.

The hysterics over this, I mean really.

[Albrenia]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

The deaths caused by the Spanish flu are an order of magnitude (or several, I haven't checked) greater than that of this virus, and again there were exceptional circumstances that lead to the spread of the Spanish flu and also it was 100 years ago.

I saw that someone tried to argue that last point by saying that, somehow, hygiene is still as bad in developed nations as it was 100 years ago but that is simply untrue. Like I don't know how to tell you this, but 100 years ago the entire concept of a virus was new and sanitation is self-evidently nowhere near comparable to today.

The hysterics over this, I mean really.

I heard on the news (so yeah, grain of salt) that Coronavirus is similarly contagious as Spanish Flu, but way, waaaay less deadly.

[Gormwood]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

The deaths caused by the Spanish flu are an order of magnitude (or several, I haven't checked) greater than that of this virus, and again there were exceptional circumstances that lead to the spread of the Spanish flu and also it was 100 years ago.

I saw that someone tried to argue that last point by saying that, somehow, hygiene is still as bad in developed nations as it was 100 years ago but that is simply untrue. Like I don't know how to tell you this, but 100 years ago the entire concept of a virus was new and sanitation is self-evidently nowhere near comparable to today.

The hysterics over this, I mean really.

Which still leaves third world nations.

[Valrifell]

The deaths caused by the Spanish flu are an order of magnitude (or several, I haven't checked) greater than that of this virus, and again there were exceptional circumstances that lead to the spread of the Spanish flu and also it was 100 years ago.

I saw that someone tried to argue that last point by saying that, somehow, hygiene is still as bad in developed nations as it was 100 years ago but that is simply untrue. Like I don't know how to tell you this, but 100 years ago the entire concept of a virus was new and sanitation is self-evidently nowhere near comparable to today.

The hysterics over this, I mean really.

Which still leaves third world nations.

It's not been sighted in significant numbers in any country with poor healthcare. Besides, it's almost like there's an international organization that could easily help in those cases.

[The New California Republic]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

All the other diseases be like: "tryhard n00b"

[Militant Costco]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

All the other diseases be like: "tryhard n00b"

Spanish Flu didn't even threaten humanity and got so pissed it alt-f4'ed.

[A m e n r i a]

I've just come to a realization, for a society based on fear like china, what happens when people are more scared of a virus than the government?

People in china don't help others in need because of fear of legal damage(from a broken justice system), they don't speak out what they see because of fear of the intelligence agencies, officials blindly execute orders because of fear of the army, the same officials who let milions starve to death during the Great Leap Forward for fear to appear unpatriotic for reporting agricultural yields below expectations.
For the same reasons we are now suspecting officials to have covered up the first outbreak of this virus, and to be continuing to do so in other chinese regions outside Hubei, for fear of the government reaction on them. Government which further reinforced the fear mechanic by announcing harsher punishment for anyone not following state guidelines.

What happens when there is a new fear bigger than all the others?
Probably not much of a change, so long the reasoning remains fear driven.



That came to mind after seeing this image gallery from a city in central cina (population 10 milions)
https://imgur.com/a/oG9nQoD
And after giving a quick read about the Great Leap Forward

Like I said, people are hiding in their houses. They don't come out except to the supermarket, because everything else is closed.

[Neanderthaland]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

Pft!

Got detected before even getting out of China. Major nations already working on the cure.

[Outer Sparta]

Coronavirus trying hard to beat Spanish Flu on the Plague, Inc. leaderboard.

Pft!

Got detected before even getting out of China. Major nations already working on the cure.

"Coronavirus starts in China"
"Coronavirus spreads to Japan, Korea, Australia, USA, etc."
"Nations already working on the cure, closing airports, borders, etc."

[Samudera Darussalam]

Pft!

Got detected before even getting out of China. Major nations already working on the cure.

"Coronavirus starts in China"
"Coronavirus spreads to Japan, Korea, Australia, USA, etc."
"Nations already working on the cure, closing airports, borders, etc."

All the while the player do now is collecting DNAs for sure.

[Outer Sparta]

"Coronavirus starts in China"
"Coronavirus spreads to Japan, Korea, Australia, USA, etc."
"Nations already working on the cure, closing airports, borders, etc."

All the while the player do now is collecting DNAs for sure.

Transmissions evolved: Livestock I, Air II
Symptoms evolved: Coughing, Sneezing, Fever
Abilities evolved: Drug Resistance I

[Bombadil]

Technically the extended CNY is over so everyone could go back to work but seems most are staying at home from what I can see - admittedly only on my own social networks - there's a little 'work from home in style' campaign going around where you share a picture of your environment and tag others to share as well.

Generally people seems to be getting used to it all, the major issue is having little clear idea on how long this all lasts.

Also..

Reuters reports that China’s agriculture ministry has said the highly pathogenic H5N6 strain of avian flu has been found in a poultry farm in southwestern Sichuan province.

This is the first H5N6 avian flu detected from a poultry farm after four cases found in swans this year.

The ministry said on Sunday night 1,840 birds had died in the farm of 2,497. The rest have been culled.

Zero context if it's an issue. Nearly half of pigs were culled last year in China, now them chickens..

[Militant Costco]

Technically the extended CNY is over so everyone could go back to work but seems most are staying at home from what I can see - admittedly only on my own social networks - there's a little 'work from home in style' campaign going around where you share a picture of your environment and tag others to share as well.

Generally people seems to be getting used to it all, the major issue is having little clear idea on how long this all lasts.

Also..

Reuters reports that China’s agriculture ministry has said the highly pathogenic H5N6 strain of avian flu has been found in a poultry farm in southwestern Sichuan province.

This is the first H5N6 avian flu detected from a poultry farm after four cases found in swans this year.

The ministry said on Sunday night 1,840 birds had died in the farm of 2,497. The rest have been culled.

Zero context if it's an issue. Nearly half of pigs were culled last year in China, now them chickens..

Definitely won't help food prices now that both pork and chicken are running out. Chinese economy will definitely take a larger toll as well now that the government will most likely have to start importing some of these food items.

Also if Coronavirus and H5N6 somehow play some massive Plague.inc here and mutate with each other so that Avian flu can infect humans with the same infection rate as the coronavirus...

[Zixu]

Report from the National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China

mainland China

	until Feb. 9th	during Feb. 9th
confirmed	40171	+3062
cured	3281	+632
deaths	908	+97
existing	35982
severe	6484
suspected	23589
close contacts	187518

Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan

	confirmed	cured	deaths
Hong Kong	36	0	1
Macau	10	1	0
Taiwan	18	1	0

[Tuthina]

Report from the National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China

mainland China

	until Feb. 9th	during Feb. 9th
confirmed	40171	+3062
cured	3281	+632
deaths	908	+97
existing	35982
severe	6484
suspected	23589
close contacts	187518

Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan

	confirmed	cured	deaths
Hong Kong	36	0	1
Macau	10	1	0
Taiwan	18	1	0

It should also be noted that both Beijing and Shanghai have declared that movement regulations will be implemented, requiring records for people moving in and out of its wards. I think by this point, almost 40 cities in PRC, including all four municipalities (those two, plus Chongqing and Tianjin) of the country.

[Bear Stearns]

I've just come to a realization, for a society based on fear like china, what happens when people are more scared of a virus than the government?

People in china don't help others in need because of fear of legal damage(from a broken justice system), they don't speak out what they see because of fear of the intelligence agencies, officials blindly execute orders because of fear of the army, the same officials who let milions starve to death during the Great Leap Forward for fear to appear unpatriotic for reporting agricultural yields below expectations.
For the same reasons we are now suspecting officials to have covered up the first outbreak of this virus, and to be continuing to do so in other chinese regions outside Hubei, for fear of the government reaction on them. Government which further reinforced the fear mechanic by announcing harsher punishment for anyone not following state guidelines.

What happens when there is a new fear bigger than all the others?
Probably not much of a change, so long the reasoning remains fear driven.



That came to mind after seeing this image gallery from a city in central cina (population 10 milions)
https://imgur.com/a/oG9nQoD
And after giving a quick read about the Great Leap Forward

As weird as it is to see it empty, the streets of China look remarkably first world.