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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:28 pm

Forget the anger if it's overblown for a moment, closing off a major city during the New Year isn't going to be great for the economy.

Edit: Presuming of course it is overblown and we're not all about to die
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:35 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Forget the anger if it's overblown for a moment, closing off a major city during the New Year isn't going to be great for the economy.

Edit: Presuming of course it is overblown and we're not all about to die


Fuck the economy, people are stuck in a city panicking about whether they're all going to die, and for no reason - either it could have been effectively contained earlier or it's already in a bunch of cities so this quarantine is useless.
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Postby New Vedan » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:07 am

Vetalia wrote:Here's a fun fact that will tickle your fancy: the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences is one of the few BSL-4 facilities on Earth. What were they up to and how did they screw up so badly?



Ah crap I kinda wish I didnt just read that.

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:20 am

Vetalia wrote:Here's a fun fact that will tickle your fancy: the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences is one of the few BSL-4 facilities on Earth. What were they up to and how did they screw up so badly?


Not gonna lie, earlier today I was also thinking this could be an accidental bio release. It would certainly explain their reaction.
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Postby The Strangers Club » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:29 am

The coronavirus has strategy that's why it's not extremely lethal yet because it knows it has to spread around the world and evolve it's transmission traits then comes the symptoms later but it seems like they got impatient and went straight to symptoms after transmission. Just like in Plaque Inc.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:31 am

New vedan wrote:
Vetalia wrote:Here's a fun fact that will tickle your fancy: the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences is one of the few BSL-4 facilities on Earth. What were they up to and how did they screw up so badly?



Ah crap I kinda wish I didnt just read that.

*sigh* Well this is gonna keep me up tonight.

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:50 am

Vetalia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
That.. is disturbing. Let's hope it's just an amazing coincidence.


I don't think it is, unless you think the live animal markets in Africa, Southeast Asia and South America are more hygienic than those in China. Two novel and remarkably deadly coronaviruses in less than a generation (three if you count MERS) isn't exactly normal. The PRC was up to something in its biological warfare labs and the cat left the bag too early once again.

You know, the emergence of new viruses doesn’t have to be the work of some nefarious biological weapons program or whatever. Given the fact that there are likely many countless undiscovered pathogens squirming around on this planet, we’re bound to encounter and become exposed to more than a few of them as time goes on.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:58 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Vetalia wrote:Here's a fun fact that will tickle your fancy: the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences is one of the few BSL-4 facilities on Earth. What were they up to and how did they screw up so badly?


Not gonna lie, earlier today I was also thinking this could be an accidental bio release. It would certainly explain their reaction.

IMO, they’re probably trying to make up for their piss poor response to the SARS outbreak where they sat on it for months before telling the WHO and the world at large about it.
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Postby Konolas » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:01 am

The Strangers Club wrote:The coronavirus has strategy that's why it's not extremely lethal yet because it knows it has to spread around the world and evolve it's transmission traits then comes the symptoms later but it seems like they got impatient and went straight to symptoms after transmission. Just like in Plaque Inc

Looks like it got bored and spawned in China

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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:14 am

So, I have not seen any official source yet, but word has spread round that the coronavirus has also reached Manila and Cebu. There hasn’t been any confirmation from MIAA/NAIA or MCIA in conjunction with DOH or Philhealth concerning this either, afaik.
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Postby Valentian Elysium » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:15 am

The Strangers Club wrote:The coronavirus has strategy that's why it's not extremely lethal yet because it knows it has to spread around the world and evolve it's transmission traits then comes the symptoms later but it seems like they got impatient and went straight to symptoms after transmission. Just like in Plaque Inc.

Unfortunately for you, Plague Inc. is a video game where someone with intelligence (you, the player) literally alters the virus/bacteria/whatever. This is real life, and I'm pretty sure that in real life, viruses do not have the mental capacity of strategising their steps toward total control over the world. Heck, some even say that viruses are not even alive. Sure, they may mutate and change some of their traits, but I am almost certain that the virus is not thinking "Ok lads, first we'll just make the virus extremely contagious, but make sure to NOT make symptoms yet. Once everyone's infected, turn on all them symptoms, and boom, we win"
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:29 am

Now that I think about it, this is the perfect soundtrack to listen to during this new epidemic:
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:29 am

According to reports this virus was present in snakes and has jumped the species barrier. That shit is fucking dangerous.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:49 am

Vetalia wrote:Here's a fun fact that will tickle your fancy: the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences is one of the few BSL-4 facilities on Earth. What were they up to and how did they screw up so badly?


The only facility of its kind in China and only one in nine within Asia, eight if you don’t count that Russian facility.
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Postby Somehow Related to Rarity » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:12 am

So it hit Singapore(where I live in) and I'm fearing it'll hit anyone I know.
The New California Republic wrote:According to reports this virus was present in snakes and has jumped the species barrier. That shit is fucking dangerous.

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Postby Catburg » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:14 am

Tens of thousands of cases are likely...

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:45 am

Catburg wrote:Tens of thousands of cases are likely...

Hold your horses there, doomer.
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Postby Tarchuna and Ravenna » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:48 am

Bromagia wrote:As long as the virus is mostly limited to China, I really don't care. If it spreads siignificantly to not piece of shit countries then its a real problem.


You do realize what you have said, right?

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Postby Tarchuna and Ravenna » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:49 am

Catburg wrote:Tens of thousands of cases are likely...


Oh, and it is the APOCALYPSE!

My parents lived in Hong Kong at the time of the SARS outbreak. They were fine. So was the other 99 per cent of the population.

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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:50 am

Huangang, a city of 7 million, is now under quarantine. Ezhou, a city of one million, has had its transportation shut down but they have yet to formally announce a quarantine. Unconfirmed reports on Chinese Twitter say the death toll is in the hundreds and that this is being suppressed by the CCP. Also there are allegations that the PLAAF is conducting mass aerial dumping of disinfectants in Wuhan in an effort to contain the spread.

Folks, you don’t just shut down three cities for no reason...
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:53 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:Huangang, a city of 7 million, is now under quarantine. Ezhou, a city of one million, has had its transportation shut down but they have yet to formally announce a quarantine. Unconfirmed reports on Chinese Twitter day the death toll is in the hundreds and that this is being suppressed by the CCP. Also allegations that the PLAAF is conducting mass aerial dumping of disinfectants in Wuhan in an effort to contain the spread.

Folks, you don’t just shut down three cities for no reason...

Given the CPC has previously suppressed information during past outbreaks, it wouldn't surprise me if they were doing it this time.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:56 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Huangang, a city of 7 million, is now under quarantine. Ezhou, a city of one million, has had its transportation shut down but they have yet to formally announce a quarantine. Unconfirmed reports on Chinese Twitter day the death toll is in the hundreds and that this is being suppressed by the CCP. Also allegations that the PLAAF is conducting mass aerial dumping of disinfectants in Wuhan in an effort to contain the spread.

Folks, you don’t just shut down three cities for no reason...

Given the CPC has previously suppressed information during past outbreaks, it wouldn't surprise me if they were doing it this time.


Even in a country as large population wise as China, a Quarantine of 20 million people is big, especially during the Lunar New Year.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:57 am

China has quarantined the city. There are cases in the US now. My mom is upset, because the news initially denied there were any cases, but she knew there were because they were treating a person who got it at their work place. I feel sad for all the people traveling to and from China for the Lunar New Year, because this will make travel to and from China more difficult.
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Postby Satuga » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:00 am

I have a feeling this is going to be similar to the Ebola scare for the US, I think we will get maybe a couple hundred cases, and then successfully quarantine it like we did Ebola.

Edit: while I still thinks it's going to be more of a scare than an epidemic, I do have to acknowledge that should we not be careful, it can get worse because of its ability to travel through the air.
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