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Would you support a Chinese-Style lockdown in your country to contain the Coronavirus?

Yes
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48%
No
125
38%
Unsure
46
14%
 
Total votes : 328

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:14 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:As Christians, it is our duty to spread the faith across the globe. While the Church has historically done well in conserving local traditions and culture, this varies tremendously depending when and where conversion occurred. How do you feel about this? Do you think conversion should be done in a culturally sensitive manner, in a manner that puts faith above all else, or not at all?

I think the emphasis must be on conversion. Cultural practices should not stand in the way of the Christian faith, and if they are outright anti-Christian they must be changed or removed. That being said, subtlety nets more believers than piggish stubbornness. We just shouldn't let the desire to be sensitive overshadow salvation. Feel free to answer these question even if you're not of the Christian faith (Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish).


In terms of evangelism, I think we need only look to the example of the Apostles and St. Paul to see how it should be done.

They weren't imperialists, they met people where they were at and introduced Christ into their lives, and built churches made up of their own communities and own people.

Honestly, I don't think we need to overthink it, and allow the Holy Spirit to guide those called to missions.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Fahran » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:21 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Goddamn, I feel kinda like OEP these last couple days. Been a fucking wild ride, and it's still going.

Popping the OEP pill can have numerous strange side effects.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:25 am

Fahran wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Goddamn, I feel kinda like OEP these last couple days. Been a fucking wild ride, and it's still going.

Popping the OEP pill can have numerous strange side effects.

One week you're not doing anything, then in one day your life becomes a soap opera.
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The world is grey, the mountains old, the forges fire is ashen cold. No harp is wrung, no hammer falls, the darkness dwells in Durin's halls...
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:28 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:As Christians, it is our duty to spread the faith across the globe. While the Church has historically done well in conserving local traditions and culture, this varies tremendously depending when and where conversion occurred. How do you feel about this? Do you think conversion should be done in a culturally sensitive manner, in a manner that puts faith above all else, or not at all?

Historically, Christianity seems to had maintained a degree of cultural sensitivity in places that have become bastions of the faith. Ireland, for instance, managed to roll a lot of its pagan deities and ideas into secular and religious folklore while remaining ardently Catholic. That said, bandying about idols, as was done with the Amazonian Synod, seems to be stretching matters a bit. Traditionally, these figures would have been associated with saints or would have lost their place in religious displays altogether.

As a Jewish person, on the other hand, I would rather minimize proselytizing in my own community since we're already at risk of full on assimilation through intermarriage in the next three generations - at least for those of us not dwelling in more insular communities. Over fifty percent of all Jewish people in the United States intermarry.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:53 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Fahran wrote:Popping the OEP pill can have numerous strange side effects.

One week you're not doing anything, then in one day your life becomes a soap opera.

Tell me about it.
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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:32 pm

Diopolis wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:One week you're not doing anything, then in one day your life becomes a soap opera.

Tell me about it.

No, it's legit too weird and personal.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:43 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Tell me about it.

No, it's legit too weird and personal.

That was an expression of sympathy from a weirdness magnet in his own right.
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Nazeroth
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Postby Nazeroth » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:32 pm

You guys tracking the new veritas leak of an additional two staffers
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:10 pm

Anyone going to submit any mod nominations now that they're looking for newbies?
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:40 pm

Diopolis wrote:Anyone going to submit any mod nominations now that they're looking for newbies?


I nominate Totally Not OEP

Drain the swamp
If you need a witness look to yourself

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:45 pm

Joohan wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Anyone going to submit any mod nominations now that they're looking for newbies?


I nominate Totally Not OEP

Drain the swamp

I support this nomination.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:44 pm

I've been interviewing like crazy this week.
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:48 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I've been interviewing like crazy this week.

Who with?

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:54 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:I've been interviewing like crazy this week.

Who with?


Firms similar to Goldman Sachs/Credit Suisse/Morgan Stanley/UBS/JPMorgan
The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. is a New York-based global investment bank, securities trading and brokerage firm. Its main business areas are capital markets, investment banking, wealth management and global clearing services. Bear Stearns was founded as an equity trading house on May Day 1923 by Joseph Ainslie Bear, Robert B. Stearns and Harold C. Mayer with $500,000 in capital.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:56 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Who with?


Firms similar to Goldman Sachs/Credit Suisse/Morgan Stanley/UBS/JPMorgan

Damn Bear, when you going to retire to a cabin in the appalachians and switch to moonshining and hunting bigfoot?
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:57 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Firms similar to Goldman Sachs/Credit Suisse/Morgan Stanley/UBS/JPMorgan

Why the change? Are you looking for better pay or benefits?

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:00 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Firms similar to Goldman Sachs/Credit Suisse/Morgan Stanley/UBS/JPMorgan

Damn Bear, when you going to retire to a cabin in the appalachians and switch to moonshining and hunting bigfoot?


I don't really plan on ever formerly retiring, but I hope to have transitioned to a much more laid back role (like a silent partner in a private equity firm) by the time I hit 50. That way I still technically have a job and can work if I want, but basically I can fuck around whenever.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:00 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Firms similar to Goldman Sachs/Credit Suisse/Morgan Stanley/UBS/JPMorgan

Why the change? Are you looking for better pay or benefits?


Both and also drastic operational improvements, career advancement opportunities, customers, and deal size.
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Postby Teufelreich » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:01 pm

Can one be counted as right wing if I am a socially conservative Catholic who is patriotic but prefers a socialized economy and income equality? Talking about the IRL me ofc.
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:02 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Both and also drastic operational improvements, career advancement opportunities, customers, and deal size.

Good luck finding your desired job then.

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:03 pm

Teufelreich wrote:Can one be counted as right wing if I am a socially conservative Catholic who is patriotic but prefers a socialized economy and income equality? Talking about the IRL me ofc.

As long as you don't support actual socialism(proven by rabid anti-communism- measure yourself against me, my young padawan), then of course.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:03 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Both and also drastic operational improvements, career advancement opportunities, customers, and deal size.

Good luck finding your desired job then.


I'll find out by mid-February most likely One of the firms I'm talking to wants to move particularly quickly and get me started by April 1.


Thank you.
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Postby Teufelreich » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:05 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Teufelreich wrote:Can one be counted as right wing if I am a socially conservative Catholic who is patriotic but prefers a socialized economy and income equality? Talking about the IRL me ofc.

As long as you don't support actual socialism(proven by rabid anti-communism- measure yourself against me, my young padawan), then of course.


Too religious, patriarchal, and patriotic for Marxism.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:10 pm

Teufelreich wrote:
Diopolis wrote:As long as you don't support actual socialism(proven by rabid anti-communism- measure yourself against me, my young padawan), then of course.


Too religious, patriarchal, and patriotic for Marxism.

Exactly! Now do you believe that every war the US has ever fought except Vietnam and Korea were unjustifiable? That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin? That McCarthy should've been granted emergency powers to issue bills of attainder against communism? That Goldwater had the right idea? That draft dodgers and communist sympathizers should've been forced into a human wave attack on Hanoi?
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:14 pm

Diopolis wrote:That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin?

Wait a minute Dio, the rest I can understand, but this is too much. The Nazi regime was actively persecuting Catholics, they absolutely had to fall and the sooner, the better. And I'm not keen on nuking Moscow, even under the Bolsheviks. It is the capital of our great nation.

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