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Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
If what you're saying is true, then it should not be all that difficult to find a real academic source. Which I'm still waiting for.

Said the lazy student.

Then produce something solid which asserts the extent that the adoption of Christianity caused Roman decline, if it caused anything significant at all. And not just from your personal interpretation. If you actually know what you're talking about and have researched this, you ought to have read plenty on the subject and have sources readily at hand.

Memes aren't helping you any, especially not bad memes. And no one educated in history gives any credence to the concept of the "Dark Ages".

Well, if you're truly so concerned, here's a six-volume book on the matter:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25717/25717-h/25717-h.htm

Have fun.

As for laziness, I have two undergrads and a major in history. Bite me.

Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:

Salus Maior wrote:
If what you're saying is true, then it should not be all that difficult to find a real academic source. Which I'm still waiting for.

Said the lazy student.

Then produce something solid which asserts the extent that the adoption of Christianity caused Roman decline, if it caused anything significant at all. And not just from your personal interpretation. If you actually know what you're talking about and have researched this, you ought to have read plenty on the subject and have sources readily at hand.

Memes aren't helping you any, especially not bad memes. And no one educated in history gives any credence to the concept of the "Dark Ages".

Well, if you're truly so concerned, here's a six-volume book on the matter:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25717/25717-h/25717-h.htm

Have fun.

As for laziness, I have two undergrads and a major in history. Bite me.

Farnhamia wrote:

Benuty wrote:On another note the rate of non-Muslim suicide bombers will go up if polygamy because a more than fringe. Obviously this isn’t a good thing, but it’s time more than communists, and Muslims blow themselves up after all trucks of peace are only so effective.

"Trucks of peace" ... cute. *** Warned for trolling. ***

Benuty wrote:It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

Nakena wrote:

Benuty wrote:It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

White Slavery?

Albennia wrote:

Rentandy wrote:Jefferson was a Masonic deist.

#CathToryGang

You are aware that most Tories were strongly anti-Catholic(ism)?

Benuty wrote:It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

Benuty wrote:

Nakena wrote:
White Slavery?

The Chinese are selling Uighur's to factories for top dollar given the normal citizenry is too busy getting fired over this damn pandemic.

Nakena wrote:

Benuty wrote:The Chinese are selling Uighur's to factories for top dollar given the normal citizenry is too busy getting fired over this damn pandemic.

Noice. Maybe they should do some tele marketing ala "Who wants to buy an Uighur?"

Benuty wrote:

Farnhamia wrote:"Trucks of peace" ... cute. *** Warned for trolling. ***

Yeah you can get fucked Farn. I wasn’t targeting Muslims specifically with this comment so please do everyone a favor, and fuck off back to your hot topic Isis granny porn collection.

Benuty wrote:It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

Fahran wrote:

Albennia wrote:You are aware that most Tories were strongly anti-Catholic(ism)?

That wasn't really true of Jacobites. Plus a lot of the Catholics who refused to convert under Elizabeth I came from wealthier families that were able to pay the stiff fines associated with refusing to become a steady Anglican and probably had Tory sympathies at least initially.

Farnhamia wrote:

Benuty wrote:On another note the rate of non-Muslim suicide bombers will go up if polygamy because a more than fringe. Obviously this isn’t a good thing, but it’s time more than communists, and Muslims blow themselves up after all trucks of peace are only so effective.

"Trucks of peace" ... cute. *** Warned for trolling. ***

Albennia wrote:

Joohan wrote:
Greece and Rome are hailed as the greatest civilizations of the western world - in contrast to the fair more egalitarian barbarian states. Just saying

In Rome adultery was rampant, while among the Germanic peoples it was resolutely opposed.

Benuty wrote:It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

The East Marches II wrote:This is true. Which is why I say the current state and ideology is hell-bent on abolishing itself. The geniuses are now busily telling us polygamy won't end negatively despite all evidence to the contrary. I hope they enjoy the consequences of a pool of young men with nothing to lose accelerating in growth should they ever get such an insane wish passed.

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:All kinds of poly is defectdefect, which should be heavily suppressed, but unfortunately our society penalises people who follow the rules and promotes those who don't

Imperium Romanum Sanctis wrote:As hard a pill as it can be to swallow, Christianity definitely played a prominent role in the fall of the Roman Empire. For the better part of three centuries, Christians were a subversive and dissident group who often refused to adopt Roman customs and were disloyal to the state. They weren't nearly as big of a problem as institutions like the Praetorian Guard, but they certainly didn't help to improve matters.

It was also rather problematic that, after the tables were turned and Christianity became the state-religion of Rome, the Church immediately set about destroying temples and removing everything it considered to be pagan. In its zealotry, over a thousand years of Roman heritage and culture were consecrated to the flames.

Granted, Christianity helped to keep the spirit of Rome alive through the dark days of the Middle Ages, but that was after the empire was dead.

Fahran wrote:

Albennia wrote:In Rome adultery was rampant, while among the Germanic peoples it was resolutely opposed.

The Romans usually took a dim view of adultery as well...

Albennia wrote:

Fahran wrote:The Romans usually took a dim view of adultery as well...

Whatever they might have said, in reality it was anything but a dim view.

Genivaria wrote:

Albennia wrote:Whatever they might have said, in reality it was anything but a dim view.

You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

Albennia wrote:

Genivaria wrote:You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

Massive LOL if you think that was ever enforced. It wasn't. Adultery was socially acceptable and done by most of the elites.

Albennia wrote:

Genivaria wrote:You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

Massive LOL if you think that was ever enforced. It wasn't. Adultery was socially acceptable and done by most of the elites.