Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX

[Bear Stearns]

Too religious, patriarchal, and patriotic for Marxism.

Exactly! Now do you believe that every war the US has ever fought except Vietnam and Korea were unjustifiable? That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin? That McCarthy should've been granted emergency powers to issue bills of attainder against communism? That Goldwater had the right idea? That draft dodgers and communist sympathizers should've been forced into a human wave attack on Hanoi?

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

[Bienenhalde]

That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin?

Wait a minute Dio, the rest I can understand, but this is too much. The Nazi regime was actively persecuting Catholics, they absolutely had to fall and the sooner, the better. And I'm not keen on nuking Moscow, even under the Bolsheviks. It is the capital of our great nation.

Nuclear warfare in general are a bad idea. However, when our enemies have nukes, I suppose it is necessary for us to have our own nuclear weapons as backup. And we should not hold on to an irrational hatred of nuclear technology such that we block the building of safe nuclear power plants, which are a good alternative to fossil fuels.

[Nakena]

Exactly! Now do you believe that every war the US has ever fought except Vietnam and Korea were unjustifiable? That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin? That McCarthy should've been granted emergency powers to issue bills of attainder against communism? That Goldwater had the right idea? That draft dodgers and communist sympathizers should've been forced into a human wave attack on Hanoi?

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

National Focus choosen: America First

Hurr-durr.

[Bear Stearns]

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

National Focus choosen: America First

Hurr-durr.

Americans who are not America First are suspect. If you aren't loyal to America, then who are you loyal to?

[Nazeroth]

National Focus choosen: America First

Hurr-durr.

Americans who are not America First are suspect. If you aren't loyal to America, then who are you loyal to?

"muh internationalism and "no borders no walls no usa at all"

[Bienenhalde]

National Focus choosen: America First

Hurr-durr.

Americans who are not America First are suspect. If you aren't loyal to America, then who are you loyal to?

America's intervention in World War II was one of the best things the US did as a nation. Isn't it better to fight against the forces of evil in the world rather than just sitting back and doing nothing while the bad guys destroy the rest of the world?

[Novus America]

National Focus choosen: America First

Hurr-durr.

Americans who are not America First are suspect. If you aren't loyal to America, then who are you loyal to?

Being America first does not mean being a complete isolationist (which is not in fact in the interest of the US).

[Nazeroth]

Americans who are not America First are suspect. If you aren't loyal to America, then who are you loyal to?

America's intervention in World War II was one of the best things the US did as a nation. Isn't it better to fight against the forces of evil in the world rather than just sitting back and doing nothing while the bad guys destroy the rest of the world?

so can we bomb Iran already then?

[Bear Stearns]

America's intervention in World War II was one of the best things the US did as a nation. Isn't it better to fight against the forces of evil in the world rather than just sitting back and doing nothing while the bad guys destroy the rest of the world?

so can we bomb Iran already then?

"axis of evil"

[Bear Stearns]

The "sweet spot" of investment banking deals I enjoy working on is the upper middle market range of $500 million to up to $2 billion. Big enough to be sophisticated and meaningful, but not so big to have to deal with the bullshit that usually follows the large deals. Also the US market is the best for these sort of transactions.

[Diopolis]

Exactly! Now do you believe that every war the US has ever fought except Vietnam and Korea were unjustifiable? That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin? That McCarthy should've been granted emergency powers to issue bills of attainder against communism? That Goldwater had the right idea? That draft dodgers and communist sympathizers should've been forced into a human wave attack on Hanoi?

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

[Diopolis]

That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin?

Wait a minute Dio, the rest I can understand, but this is too much. The Nazi regime was actively persecuting Catholics, they absolutely had to fall and the sooner, the better. And I'm not keen on nuking Moscow, even under the Bolsheviks. It is the capital of our great nation.

Our involvement with WWII was an outgrowth of our misguided WWI interventionism. In all likelihood one of the multiple attempted coups de etat against Hitler would've succeeded had Germany not been threatened with defeat by the judeo-bolshevik asiatic communist hordes. Communism Delendum Est.

[Novus America]

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

Japan was a direct threat to our interests in the Pacific.
And commuting horrible atrocities against a friendly government.
And we had no reason to be supplying their war against China.

Remember Japan is why the communists won in China.

[Genivaria]

Exactly! Now do you believe that every war the US has ever fought except Vietnam and Korea were unjustifiable? That we should've rolled the tanks into Moscow, irradiated and bombed out if necessary, not Berlin? That McCarthy should've been granted emergency powers to issue bills of attainder against communism? That Goldwater had the right idea? That draft dodgers and communist sympathizers should've been forced into a human wave attack on Hanoi?

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

Getting involved in WW2 put the US in a dominant position on the world stage and heavily empowered the US economy from the mobilization.

[Genivaria]

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

Japan was a direct threat to our interests in the Pacific.
And commuting horrible atrocities against a friendly government.
And we had no reason to be supplying their war against China.

Remember Japan is why the communists won in China.

Mao hid behind the Kuomintang while the latter did all the hard work and then stabbed them in the back.

[Diopolis]

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

Japan was a direct threat to our interests in the Pacific.
And commuting horrible atrocities against a friendly government.
And we had no reason to be supplying their war against China.

Remember Japan is why the communists won in China.

The Japan war came because we were already taking sides.

[Genivaria]

America shouldn't have been involved in World War II.

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

And attacked them from where exactly? Siberia?

[Nazeroth]

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

And attacked them from where exactly? Siberia?

Europe and employ nuclear weapons

Surley less people would have died compared to the untold millions that would be killed by communists in the future

[Diopolis]

No, we shouldn't. Really we shouldn't have been involved in passive-aggressive anti-japanese operations to drag us into the rest of the war.
But Communism Delendum Est. When the tide of war inevitably went against Germany we should have declared war on the soviet union.

And attacked them from where exactly? Siberia?

It's not like we were in a place to attack Germany to begin with either.

[Novus America]

Japan was a direct threat to our interests in the Pacific.
And commuting horrible atrocities against a friendly government.
And we had no reason to be supplying their war against China.

Remember Japan is why the communists won in China.

The Japan war came because we were already taking sides.

Japan already wanted us out of the West Pacific. Japan was a threat to us. The ROC was not. Japan was in the wrong too.

So we were justified and right to do so.
Also WWII made us much stronger. It was a benefit to us.

Much better than sitting back and let threats get worse.

And also continuing to supply the Japanese war would be siding with Japan.

[Novus America]

Japan was a direct threat to our interests in the Pacific.
And commuting horrible atrocities against a friendly government.
And we had no reason to be supplying their war against China.

Remember Japan is why the communists won in China.

Mao hid behind the Kuomintang while the latter did all the hard work and then stabbed them in the back.

Exactly. Mao himself praised the Japanese for letting him win.

[Genivaria]

And attacked them from where exactly? Siberia?

It's not like we were in a place to attack Germany to begin with either.

Yes in fact we were, the British Isles.
If Britain had fallen than taking back Europe would've been infinitely more difficult.

[Diopolis]

It's not like we were in a place to attack Germany to begin with either.

Yes in fact we were, the British Isles.
If Britain had fallen than taking back Europe would've been infinitely more difficult.

And you think none of the Axis powers would've welcomed allies in the anti-bolshevik crusade?

[The South Falls]

And attacked them from where exactly? Siberia?

It's not like we were in a place to attack Germany to begin with either.

I mean, we'd have the remnants of the German state, assuming you're talking about late '44, and a charging Soviet power in the throes of Operation Bagration, stomping everything in front of them. We'd just be extending WWII 10-15 years, and pushing WWII's total death toll upwards of 100 million, imo. There's enough of a chance that we'd be defeated, and then all of Europe would be communist.

[Genivaria]

And attacked them from where exactly? Siberia?

Europe and employ nuclear weapons

Surley less people would have died compared to the untold millions that would be killed by communists in the future

Europe was under the control of the Nazis at the time remember? We'd have to first allow the Soviets to completely take continental Europe from the Nazis and then reenact operation Overlord against a much more powerful enemy who wasn't distracted in the east.