Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX

[Salus Maior]

Former colonies have no proper identity. Even England, technically an Anglo-Saxon and Norman colony, has no true discernible culture of its own. Not even football, which is Chinese in origin.

You know, right wingers already get accused of retardation enough. Let's not confirm biases.

[Hakons]

Let's keep the litterary sharing going with my favorite passage from A Christmas Carol.

“A Merry Christmas to us all, my dears. God bless us!”

Which all the family re-echoed.

“God bless us every one!” said Tiny Tim, the last of all.

He sat very close to his father’s side upon his little stool. Bob held his withered little hand in his, as if he loved the child, and wished to keep him by his side, and dreaded that he might be taken from him.

“Spirit,” said Scrooge, with an interest he had never felt before, “tell me if Tiny Tim will live.”

“I see a vacant seat,” replied the Ghost, “in the poor chimney-corner, and a crutch without an owner, carefully preserved. If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, the child will die.”

“No, no,” said Scrooge. “Oh, no, kind Spirit! say he will be spared.”

“If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, none other of my race,” returned the Ghost, “will find him here. What then? If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Scrooge hung his head to hear his own words quoted by the Spirit, and was overcome with penitence and grief.

“Man,” said the Ghost, “if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man’s child. Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust!”

I find the last paragraph to be very powerful. From my Catholic lense, it breathes with the philosophy of the pro-life movement. It cuts against the modern idea that bearing children into poverty is worse then preventing them from living at all.

[Fahran]

I find the last paragraph to be very powerful. From my Catholic lense, it breathes with the philosophy of the pro-life movement. It cuts against the modern idea that bearing children into poverty is worse then preventing them from living at all.

I've always found that argument grotesque, that it is better to die, possibly quite painfully, than to live in poverty.

[Kowani]

Let's keep the litterary sharing going with my favorite passage from A Christmas Carol.

“A Merry Christmas to us all, my dears. God bless us!”

Which all the family re-echoed.

“God bless us every one!” said Tiny Tim, the last of all.

He sat very close to his father’s side upon his little stool. Bob held his withered little hand in his, as if he loved the child, and wished to keep him by his side, and dreaded that he might be taken from him.

“Spirit,” said Scrooge, with an interest he had never felt before, “tell me if Tiny Tim will live.”

“I see a vacant seat,” replied the Ghost, “in the poor chimney-corner, and a crutch without an owner, carefully preserved. If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, the child will die.”

“No, no,” said Scrooge. “Oh, no, kind Spirit! say he will be spared.”

“If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, none other of my race,” returned the Ghost, “will find him here. What then? If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Scrooge hung his head to hear his own words quoted by the Spirit, and was overcome with penitence and grief.

“Man,” said the Ghost, “if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man’s child. Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust!”

I find the last paragraph to be very powerful. From my Catholic lense, it breathes with the philosophy of the pro-life movement. It cuts against the modern idea that bearing children into poverty is worse then preventing them from living at all.

No, it cuts against the idea that people have the right to decide who lives or dies (and also against overpopulation Malthusian nonsense). Not against abortion specifically.

[Salus Maior]

No, it cuts against the idea that people have the right to decide who lives or dies (and also against overpopulation Malthusian nonsense). Not against abortion specifically.

Abortion is about deciding whether one lives or dies.

[The Alma Mater]

I find the last paragraph to be very powerful. From my Catholic lense, it breathes with the philosophy of the pro-life movement. It cuts against the modern idea that bearing children into poverty is worse then preventing them from living at all.

I've always found that argument grotesque, that it is better to die, possibly quite painfully, than to live in poverty.

Happily, that is not a pro-choice argument Visit any abortionthread to learn more -it is not like there is a shortage of them.

No, it cuts against the idea that people have the right to decide who lives or dies (and also against overpopulation Malthusian nonsense). Not against abortion specifically.

Abortion is about deciding whether one lives or dies.

Technically it is about deciding wheter one comes into being or not.
Like fucking.

[Kowani]

No, it cuts against the idea that people have the right to decide who lives or dies (and also against overpopulation Malthusian nonsense). Not against abortion specifically.

Abortion is about deciding whether one lives or dies.

I mean, yes, but saying the passage is against abortion because of that is about as meaningful as saying it attacks means-tested welfare. It’s reading your own political values into a point where they most certainly are not.

[Genivaria]

No, it cuts against the idea that people have the right to decide who lives or dies (and also against overpopulation Malthusian nonsense). Not against abortion specifically.

Abortion is about deciding whether one lives or dies.

Most medical procedures would I would think.

[Bear Stearns]

America in 1981 would have handled the coronavirus 15x better.

[Nakena]

America in 1981 would have handled the coronavirus 15x better.

How so?

Also being in home for weeks in 1981 would x15 worse. At least. like a few channels on a shitty TV, no internets and no vidya really.

[The Alma Mater]

America in 1981 would have handled the coronavirus 15x better.

How so?

Also being in home for weeks in 1981 would x15 worse. At least. like a few channels on a shitty TV, no internets and no vidya really.

But books. Lots and lots of books.
Which arguably is better for ones mental health than the influx of Netflix, prime, disney+ etc. etc.

[Nakena]

How so?

Also being in home for weeks in 1981 would x15 worse. At least. like a few channels on a shitty TV, no internets and no vidya really.

But books. Lots and lots of books.
Which arguably is better for ones mental health than the influx of Netflix, prime, disney+ etc. etc.

But I have already read all my Books. :(

Also I dont watch netflix or disney.

[The Alma Mater]

But books. Lots and lots of books.
Which arguably is better for ones mental health than the influx of Netflix, prime, disney+ etc. etc.

But I have already read all my Books.

Reread them ? After reading a few thousand you are bound to have forgotten the contents of some.

[Nakena]

But I have already read all my Books.

Reread them ? After reading a few thousand you are bound to have forgotten the contents of some.

I have quite a couple but not that many.

[The Alma Mater]

Reread them ? After reading a few thousand you are bound to have forgotten the contents of some.

I have quite a couple but not that many.

Back in the 80s you would have
Admittedly many would not have been "books" but those cheap pockets with e.g. crappy scifi or murder mysteries; but hey. There was no Temptation Island, Tiger king or twitter back then.

[Bear Stearns]

I have quite a couple but not that many.

Back in the 80s you would have
Admittedly many would not have been "books" but those cheap pockets with e.g. crappy scifi or murder mysteries; but hey. There was no Temptation Island, Tiger king or twitter back then.

We were better for it.

[The Alma Mater]

Back in the 80s you would have
Admittedly many would not have been "books" but those cheap pockets with e.g. crappy scifi or murder mysteries; but hey. There was no Temptation Island, Tiger king or twitter back then.

We were better for it.

Agreed. Still, theoretically nothing is stopping us from turning off the tv (or pc) and picking up a book now.
In practice that seems to be much harder.

[Albrenia]

Books are pretty awesome. Something just seems more comfy about them instead of using a tablet or whatnot... although obviously the ease of access is firmly in technology's favour.

[Fahran]

Happily, that is not a pro-choice argument Visit any abortionthread to learn more -it is not like there is a shortage of them.

I've literally seen pro-choice folks make that argument on NSG. I thought it was a bad argument, right up there with "pro-life is just slut shaming women." Mind you, the pro-life folks have their own share of awful arguments.

[Nakena]

I have quite a couple but not that many.

Back in the 80s you would have
Admittedly many would not have been "books" but those cheap pockets with e.g. crappy scifi or murder mysteries; but hey. There was no Temptation Island, Tiger king or twitter back then.

Can't argue with that. ^^

Books are pretty awesome. Something just seems more comfy about them instead of using a tablet or whatnot... although obviously the ease of access is firmly in technology's favour.

Indeed i like my hard covers too.

[Diahon]

America in 1981 would have handled the coronavirus 15x better.

well reagan wasn't quite trump, yes

[Diahon]

Books are pretty awesome. Something just seems more comfy about them instead of using a tablet or whatnot... although obviously the ease of access is firmly in technology's favour.

ah yes speak of my kinks

[Nakena]

Books are pretty awesome. Something just seems more comfy about them instead of using a tablet or whatnot... although obviously the ease of access is firmly in technology's favour.

ah yes speak of my kinks

Also old books have their own scent.

[Diahon]

Let's keep the litterary sharing going with my favorite passage from A Christmas Carol.

“A Merry Christmas to us all, my dears. God bless us!”

Which all the family re-echoed.

“God bless us every one!” said Tiny Tim, the last of all.

He sat very close to his father’s side upon his little stool. Bob held his withered little hand in his, as if he loved the child, and wished to keep him by his side, and dreaded that he might be taken from him.

“Spirit,” said Scrooge, with an interest he had never felt before, “tell me if Tiny Tim will live.”

“I see a vacant seat,” replied the Ghost, “in the poor chimney-corner, and a crutch without an owner, carefully preserved. If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, the child will die.”

“No, no,” said Scrooge. “Oh, no, kind Spirit! say he will be spared.”

“If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, none other of my race,” returned the Ghost, “will find him here. What then? If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Scrooge hung his head to hear his own words quoted by the Spirit, and was overcome with penitence and grief.

“Man,” said the Ghost, “if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man’s child. Oh God! to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust!”

I find the last paragraph to be very powerful. From my Catholic lense, it breathes with the philosophy of the pro-life movement. It cuts against the modern idea that bearing children into poverty is worse then preventing them from living at all.

no, that merely says scrooge was a selfish git

Also old books have their own scent.

...

... you will not break my inhuman ardor, bookhater

rah

[Nakena]

Also old books have their own scent.

...

... you will not break my inhuman ardor, bookhater

rah

Nah I like their scent. The old paper and ink. It gives them a special note, tablets cannot replace.