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Would you support a Chinese-Style lockdown in your country to contain the Coronavirus?

Yes
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No
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Xuloqoia
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Postby Xuloqoia » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:16 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
You misunderstand your foe. There is a very good game out called Bannerlord. It is not made by wh*toids. It is made by diverse people of color. Except it has cool features like "execute enemy leadership" and "loot & pillage innocent village while you put the villagers to the sword" or "fight cool battle with 1000 AIs". This was unacceptable. They tried a pressure campaign but indie Dev Turks lol'd at the them. The social justice crowd was not content to dominate the political space, they sought to dominate our dream worlds too. The personal is political afterall. Suddenly shoved in were opposition to anything uncomfortable, chat rooms got neutered and anything controversial killed. It didn't end up selling more games though. Because this is the dominate religion, it will be followed regardless if it loses money or if a "diverse" crew of programers can manage to make things work. They have also gotten dumber over time. Before computers for a specialist crowd, now that the general public is in on it, games reflect what the public being dumb and stupid want. Dumb and stupid games. I only enjoy playing these days a mod still made by diehards. The rest of games are too easy.


Kind of an odd example to have, considering there are a siginificant number of female warlords now in the game where there weren't in the previous game.

Now, that doesn't bother me, but the crowd that usually complains about "forced diversity" has been complaining about the increased number of female warlords in the game.


Now, Salus, women are just as capable of being ruthless amoral conquerors as men are.

Although, when I play Bannerlord I go full capitalist and become a merchant, which is arguably even worse than being a typical warlord. :^)

Diahon wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
Oh, I was asking because my current situation for the duration of the pandemic is the gilded cage (that has long since lost its luster) which is my father's house. I've spent most of my time aimlessly wandering among the labyrinthine halls, tbqh.


not many people have the luck to live inside a gilded cage, swag

count your blessings, as it were


I suppose you're correct, I admit. My life has been a fortunate one, all things considered.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:16 pm

Italios wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Just because you control the media doesn't make you a queen.

i mean not to rehash a recent conversation but we DID spend like two hours going over how journalists can easily manipulate the narrative especially in regard to "rogue" nations à la north korea, using appeals the authority like the "south korean national intelligence service" to report the fictional killing of various top military officials to score brownie points with the evangelical imperialists.

BUT this conversation is old - why should we care about addressing 8% or whatever the jews make up of the world’s richest via antisemitism when I could address 100% of them via materialist class politics?

It was a shitpost, liebe schöne Jüdin
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Postby Italios » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:17 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Italios wrote:i mean not to rehash a recent conversation but we DID spend like two hours going over how journalists can easily manipulate the narrative especially in regard to "rogue" nations à la north korea, using appeals the authority like the "south korean national intelligence service" to report the fictional killing of various top military officials to score brownie points with the evangelical imperialists.

BUT this conversation is old - why should we care about addressing 8% or whatever the jews make up of the world’s richest via antisemitism when I could address 100% of them via materialist class politics?

It was a shitpost, liebe schöne Jüdin

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:18 pm

implying i'm a chav
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:20 pm

slezkine was right about jews by the way
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:20 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:implying i'm a chav

Ngl you look like a Chav
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Postby Italios » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:20 pm

implying i'm a jew when i literally said i was jewish...
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:22 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Now, Salus, women are just as capable of being ruthless amoral conquerors as men are.

Although, when I play Bannerlord I go full capitalist and become a merchant, which is arguably even worse than being a typical warlord. :^)


As I said, I'm not bothered about it.

I have the game, but I can't play it on my laptop. C'est la vie.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:22 pm

Excerpt from RED ARMY by RALPH PETERS related vaguely to topic:

As soon as he reached the backup stairwell and found it deserted, he
nearly collapsed with pent-up coughing. He felt as though his face must
be changing color with the intensity of the struggle for breath. He went up
the stairs slowly, lungs clotted shut. With no one to see him, he spit as
though ridding himself of wreckage. He hurriedly took one of his steroid
pills, which were only to be used in emergencies, washing it down with
his own saliva. In the cemented stairwell, his coughing sounded especially
destructive.

What did that bastard Starukhin see when he looked at him? An
asthmatic little Jew? Chibisov had come up through the airborne forces,
and he had been a martial-arts specialist as a young officer. He had done
everything possible to toughen himself, to reject every weak, infuriating
image clinging to him from a thousand years of pathetic East European
Jewish history. He resolutely turned his back on all aspects of Jewishness.
He worked to be a better Soviet patriot than any of them, a better
Russian patriot, as had his father and his grandfather, the first enlightened
members of a fiercely traditional family. He even downplayed his
intellectual abilities when it came to studying the theoretical aspects of
socialism and communism, since he felt it was too Jewish to overly
master political philosophy. Instead, he had turned to military engineering
and mathematics, to cybernetics and troop control theory. Then they
tried to turn him into an instructor, the star young theorist on the staff of
the Ryazan Higher Airborne Command School. But he maneuvered his
way back into a fighter's job, even volunteering, although already in his
middle thirties, for training as a special operations officer.

Accepted despite his age, he survived the agonizing training only to be
defeated by an unreasonable and unexpected enemy: asthma. It was as
though a millennium of weak-lunged Jewishness, of reeking ghettos, had
taken their revenge on him, as though some bitter and malicious Jehovah
were having his little joke. He completed his training only to collapse and
end up in a military sanatorium in Baku. His jumping days were over.
But he refused to give in. He fought to remain an officer, obsessive in
his determination to wear the uniform. He knew they did not understand
him. He had never in his life attended a Jewish service. He had no
understanding of the Jews who wanted to leave the Soviet Union, to leave
Russia, their home. To Chibisov, the emigres were incomprehensible,
weak, and selfish. For him, Israel was a distant land of superstition and
fascist enthusiasms. And yet he knew that his fellow officers always saw
him as the little Jew, a born staff man, perhaps meant to be a senior
bookkeeper in some great Jewish banking house, or a student of arcane
texts, shut in a musty study. Chibisov, the little Jew who wanted to be a
Soviet paratroop officer.

Chibisov left the stairwell, sweating, near exhaustion. He labored up
the ramp to the massive blast-proof entry doors. The interior guards
saluted with their weapons, and, behind a glass panel, the duty officer
jumped to his feet. Everyone knew the little Jew chief of staff, Chibisov
thought bitterly.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Italios » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:23 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:slezkine was right about jews by the way

ummm a theory based in the fact that jews provide "services" to the gentiles when the point of orthodox judaism is that women cook and have babies and the men just study torah all day and live on welfare... bad take is bad but are we surprised

btw banking isn't real read nassim taleb
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:23 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:implying i'm a chav

Ngl you look like a Chav
that's because you didn't see my face, which is super kawaii
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Diahon
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Postby Diahon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:24 pm

what are even these last few posts?

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:25 pm

Italios wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:slezkine was right about jews by the way

ummm a theory based in the fact that jews provide "services" to the gentiles when the point of orthodox judaism is that women cook and have babies and the men just study torah all day and live on welfare... bad take is bad but are we surprised

btw banking isn't real read nassim taleb
i think you just intentionally misconstrued what he said.

oh wait, no, I had better take what you said in good faith and make a 3-4 paragraph repl-

NNT doesnt show banking isn't real lol. he shows ("shows") our perception of skill at risk isn't "real"
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:25 pm

Diahon wrote:what are even these last few posts?
have you read any slezkine?
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Italios » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:26 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Italios wrote:ummm a theory based in the fact that jews provide "services" to the gentiles when the point of orthodox judaism is that women cook and have babies and the men just study torah all day and live on welfare... bad take is bad but are we surprised

btw banking isn't real read nassim taleb
i think you just intentionally misconstrued what he said.

oh wait, no, I had better take what you said in good faith and make a 3-4 paragraph repl-

NNT doesnt show banking isn't real lol. he shows ("shows") our perception of skill at risk isn't "real"

bro at what point did you think what i said was serious, as soon as i see the word "fat" in anything i tune tf out, "fat-tailed" made me dry heave
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Postby Diahon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:28 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Diahon wrote:what are even these last few posts?
have you read any slezkine?


no

his wiki page does sound like he rationalizes his biases way too much

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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:29 pm

Good to see the RWDT is back into 'what the fuck' territory.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:30 pm

Albrenia wrote:Good to see the RWDT is back into 'what the fuck' territory.


Quarantine isn't a good look.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:31 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Just because you control the media doesn't make you a queen.

It doesn't not make us queens though. :p

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Postby Xuloqoia » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:32 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Good to see the RWDT is back into 'what the fuck' territory.


Quarantine isn't a good look.


Cabin fever, perhaps?
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Postby Diahon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:33 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Quarantine isn't a good look.


Cabin fever, perhaps?


so whether inside or outside, we're fucked in the head, hm?

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:35 pm

Fahran wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Just because you control the media doesn't make you a queen.

It doesn't not make us queens though. :p

Maybe the queen of sheba lmao
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:35 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Camgirls will be liberated by the Red Army and simps will get the wall for counterrevolutionary activities.


Why would the non-actor victims of camgirls and porn culture get the wall?
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:36 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Camgirls will be liberated by the Red Army and simps will get the wall for counterrevolutionary activities.


Why would the non-actor victims of camgirls and porn culture get the wall?

Because they are the enablers anon
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:36 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Camgirls will be liberated by the Red Army and simps will get the wall for counterrevolutionary activities.


Why would the victims of camgirls get the wall?

What do you get when you simp over a girl who doesn't know you exist

YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKIN DESERVE
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