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Would you support a Chinese-Style lockdown in your country to contain the Coronavirus?

Yes
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No
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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:13 pm

Novus America wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:USA is a Communist country, so most people in USA and in this thread are supporting Communism as you speak


Umm explain how the US is a communist country?
Pretty sure we are not a classless society with no private property.
And very few people even want that.


Because of the American Revolution or something like that.

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:13 pm

Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:13 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:USA is a Communist country, so most people in USA and in this thread are supporting Communism as you speak

While I appreciate your usual red pill supply methods, I cannot take this one even with two glasses of water. Our sickness is neoliberalism, not communism.

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Postby Crysuko » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:14 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.

Which parallel universe did you blow in from
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:14 pm

Fahran wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:USA is a Communist country, so most people in USA and in this thread are supporting Communism as you speak

While I appreciate your usual red pill supply methods, I cannot take this one even with two glasses of water. Our sickness is neoliberalism, not communism.

Arguably in extension with neoliberalism, there is a heavy dose of hyper-individualism, secessionism, and overloaded, inefficient bureaucracy.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:15 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.

Which parallel universe did you blow in from
The one you pretend you're not living in
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:15 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.


Except that last part is not true either. Only a tiny fraction of people here want that, and those that want it rarely believe it will happen any time soon.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:15 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.

Which parallel universe did you blow in from

A post-Soviet victory in the cold war where the United States is a rump democracy seeking its place in world where the Soviet bear grows weaker.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:16 pm

Benuty wrote:
Fahran wrote:While I appreciate your usual red pill supply methods, I cannot take this one even with two glasses of water. Our sickness is neoliberalism, not communism.

Arguably in extension with neoliberalism, there is a heavy dose of hyper-individualism, secessionism, and overloaded, inefficient bureaucracy.


Which follow from neoliberalism.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:16 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Which parallel universe did you blow in from
The one you pretend you're not living in

Then go to the infirmary, you're clearly delusional
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Official thread euthanologist
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:16 pm

Benuty wrote:Arguably in extension with neoliberalism, there is a heavy dose of hyper-individualism, secessionism, and overloaded, inefficient bureaucracy.

If you mean that the rich have seceded from society and reneged on their obligations, then yes. Other secessionist movements are mostly dead in the water. Other than that, I largely agree.

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:16 pm

Novus America wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.


Except that last part is not true either. Only a tiny fraction of people here want that, and those that want it rarely believe it will happen any time soon.
It's unfortunate that you think that's true.

I doubt also that Lenin wanted to live in the Happy Garden where all the men and women shared their genitals and ate grapes from the Infinite Grape Machine, if he even thought it was possible to live in the Happy Garden with the Infinite Grape Machine, but we no doubt must all agree that Lenin was one big communist guy.
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:16 pm

Novus America wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:Good point, I don't mean USA is a communist society in that it has finally achieved communist utopia, just that it thinks it will soon arrive at communist utopia and eagerly desires such.


Except that last part is not true either. Only a tiny fraction of people here want that, and those that want it rarely believe it will happen any time soon.

Partly because if it did Commissar Jamal, and Cletus would be blasting some of those "vanguard" revolutionaries into a mass grave at an unmarked forest.
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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:17 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote: The one you pretend you're not living in

Then go to the infirmary, you're clearly delusional
I'm already in the right place
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:18 pm

Benuty wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Except that last part is not true either. Only a tiny fraction of people here want that, and those that want it rarely believe it will happen any time soon.

Partly because if it did Commissar Jamal, and Cletus would be blasting some of those "vanguard" revolutionaries into a mass grave at an unmarked forest.

Comrade Cletus is a Hero of the Republic, anon. Champagne socialists violate the NAP and thereby warrant physical removal to Canada.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:18 pm

Fahran wrote:
Benuty wrote:Arguably in extension with neoliberalism, there is a heavy dose of hyper-individualism, secessionism, and overloaded, inefficient bureaucracy.

If you mean that the rich have seceded from society and reneged on their obligations, then yes. Other secessionist movements are mostly dead in the water. Other than that, I largely agree.

Yes, and no.

Secessionism lives on in the form of a variety of flavors from your state primacy sovereign citizens, to legitimate secessionist movements, and people who genuinely believe the United States is screwed, and their area of origin needs to or will leave once the citizenry acknowledges that fact.
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:18 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Except that last part is not true either. Only a tiny fraction of people here want that, and those that want it rarely believe it will happen any time soon.
It's unfortunate that you think that's true.

I doubt also that Lenin wanted to live in the Happy Garden where all the men and women shared their genitals and ate grapes from the Infinite Grape Machine, if he even thought it was possible to live in the Happy Garden with the Infinite Grape Machine, but we no doubt must all agree that Lenin was one big communist guy.

Are you feeling alright? Have you suffered a head injury or consumed a mind altering substance recently?
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Official thread euthanologist
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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:19 pm

Fahran wrote:
Benuty wrote:Partly because if it did Commissar Jamal, and Cletus would be blasting some of those "vanguard" revolutionaries into a mass grave at an unmarked forest.

Comrade Cletus is a Hero of the Republic, anon. Champagne socialists violate the NAP and thereby warrant physical removal to Canada.

We have always been at war with Canada comrade, Mexico is our ally against the western imperialists.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:19 pm

Benuty wrote:Secessionism lives on in the form of a variety of flavors from your state primacy sovereign citizens, to legitimate secessionist movements, and people who genuinely believe the United States is screwed, and their area of origin needs to or will leave once the citizenry acknowledges that fact.

Texas and Vermont probably have the most well-developed secessionist movements and, aside from our idiot government trying to rally support prior to a presidential bid that failed when he tried to paint the gays as public enemies in the most cringe-worthy commercial I've ever seen, those aren't that strongly supported by the local public.

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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:21 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Except that last part is not true either. Only a tiny fraction of people here want that, and those that want it rarely believe it will happen any time soon.
It's unfortunate that you think that's true.

I doubt also that Lenin wanted to live in the Happy Garden where all the men and women shared their genitals and ate grapes from the Infinite Grape Machine, if he even thought it was possible to live in the Happy Garden with the Infinite Grape Machine, but we no doubt must all agree that Lenin was one big communist guy.


But basically nobody here is Leninist.
Hell even Bernie Sanders (who is not even a real communist) got trashed.

Basically nobody here supports what Lenin did. Only a tiny minority.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:23 pm

Novus America wrote:
Questarian New Yorkshire wrote: It's unfortunate that you think that's true.

I doubt also that Lenin wanted to live in the Happy Garden where all the men and women shared their genitals and ate grapes from the Infinite Grape Machine, if he even thought it was possible to live in the Happy Garden with the Infinite Grape Machine, but we no doubt must all agree that Lenin was one big communist guy.


But basically nobody here is Leninist.
Hell even Bernie Sanders (who is not even a real communist) got trashed.

Basically nobody here supports what Lenin did. Only a tiny minority.
Virtually all people on RWDT are Leninists. Even TEM, even though he is high energy, is probably a Leninist. I think only UMN is not a Leninist.
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REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:23 pm

Fahran wrote:
Benuty wrote:Secessionism lives on in the form of a variety of flavors from your state primacy sovereign citizens, to legitimate secessionist movements, and people who genuinely believe the United States is screwed, and their area of origin needs to or will leave once the citizenry acknowledges that fact.

Texas and Vermont probably have the most well-developed secessionist movements and, aside from our idiot government trying to rally support prior to a presidential bid that failed when he tried to paint the gays as public enemies in the most cringe-worthy commercial I've ever seen, those aren't that strongly supported by the local public.

Nevadan (and Oregonian [?]) sovereign citizen secessionists won a nice little victory following that big to do down at the ranch by Bundy, and company some time back. Not saying its big, but it is there, and all it takes is the right push for the strings to come apart if given enough pressure.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:23 pm

Novus America wrote:Basically nobody here supports what Lenin did. Only a tiny minority.

Whenever anyone shills for Lenin or Trotsky, there is only one correct response.

"Your waifu is trash. Begone, Soviet-weeb."

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Postby Novus America » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:23 pm

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Then go to the infirmary, you're clearly delusional
I'm already in the right place


Yes, yes you are. This place is ripe with delusions.
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___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Questarian New Yorkshire
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:24 pm

Fahran wrote:
Novus America wrote:Basically nobody here supports what Lenin did. Only a tiny minority.

Whenever anyone shills for Lenin or Trotsky, there is only one correct response.

"Your waifu is trash. Begone, Soviet-weeb."
Liverpool fans loved Luis Suarez, loved him to bits. He was a scoring machine.

But when Luis Suarez played for Barcelona, he was suddenly a cunt. I wonder why that was?
REST IN PEACE RWDT & LWDT
I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, traveling through this world below
There is no sickness, no toil, nor danger, in that bright land to which I go
I'm going there to see my Father, and all my loved ones who've gone on
I'm only going over Jordan, I'm only going over home

I know dark clouds will gather 'round me, I know my way is hard and steep
But beauteous fields arise before me, where God's redeemed, their vigils keep

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