Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX

[Bear Stearns]

The planes actually existed. They were actually flown by moorish extremists. The cause of the building collapse was not them, it was nanothermite planted by the same deep state actors who manipulated al Qaeda into that particular attack. That they happened to be enabled by the government does not absolve them from flying a plane into the WTC.

I still am reluctant to believe you don't have Wahhabist sympathies. Don't Wahhabists and Paleocons alike endorse sexism, homophobia, and anti-Israel, anti-US military and state department beliefs? It don't think it is two much of a stretch to imagine these groups being in cahoots with each other.

"Wahhabists and anti-war conservatives are the same"

whew what a take

[Bienenhalde]

Pretty much. The 50s to early 60s were not a utopia, but seeing vast improvements in pretty much all areas and better than they had ever been. But instead of building on that, the boomers tore it all down.

And they’re still doing it today. Most of the American Leadership is comprised of boomers, no?

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

[Novus America]

Okay, Dio, I'll bite: how did the CIA convince Al Qaeda to hijack planes and fly them into buildings?

While that may not be true, it is an open fact that the US government did arm the Mujahideen that became AL Qaeda in the 1980s.

Kind of misleading and not really relevant.
Although the CIA did back some Mujahideen to troll the Soviets does not show anything. Especially as it mostly backed the Tajik ones, not the Pashtun ones.

Sure the US got bored once the Soviets left, a group of extremist Pashtuns later fought the Tajiks, driving them to the Northwest corner (partially because the Tajiks fought each other) and the extremist Pashtuns (who although several of their leaders had fought in the Soviet war their rank and file did not, and were actually students in Pakistan during the war and or too young for the most part) supported Al Qaeda, does not in any way prove the US government played any knowing role in 9-11.

Sure mistakes the government made contributed It happening, but that does not show knowledge or intent.

[Bear Stearns]

And they’re still doing it today. Most of the American Leadership is comprised of boomers, no?

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

Irving Kristol was a Trotskyist and the majority of neocons in power aren't even Americans.

[Novus America]

And they’re still doing it today. Most of the American Leadership is comprised of boomers, no?

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

So tell me again how outsourcing most our manufacturing to the PRC and then starting war in which the wasted trillions of dollars for no apparent gain, weakening us, was really owning the commies?

Many of the neocons are ex-hippies/new left types.
And of course we have the Democratic Party which is controlled by a bunch of people who were commie sympathizing anti war hippies back in the 60s...

[Bear Stearns]

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

So tell me again how outsourcing most our manufacturing to the PRC and then starting war in which the wasted trillions of dollars for no apparent gain, weakening us, was really owning the commies?

A war based on a lie, might I add.

[Novus America]

I still am reluctant to believe you don't have Wahhabist sympathies. Don't Wahhabists and Paleocons alike endorse sexism, homophobia, and anti-Israel, anti-US military and state department beliefs? It don't think it is two much of a stretch to imagine these groups being in cahoots with each other.

"Wahhabists and anti-war conservatives are the same"

whew what a take

But he did not necessarily say that. I mean there is a big difference between saying the Iraq war was a fuck up and saying “obvs the Jews did 9-11”.

[Novus America]

Yes, but that's completely different.

And the US government did the exact same thing Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Interesting how ISIS has Humvees and M4s, huh?

ISIS stole took those from fleeing Iraqi government troops. So it is really not so interesting.
Yeah sometimes we back the side that later looses. Okay?

[United Muscovite Nations]

The planes actually existed. They were actually flown by moorish extremists. The cause of the building collapse was not them, it was nanothermite planted by the same deep state actors who manipulated al Qaeda into that particular attack. That they happened to be enabled by the government does not absolve them from flying a plane into the WTC.

I still am reluctant to believe you don't have Wahhabist sympathies. Don't Wahhabists and Paleocons alike endorse sexism, homophobia, and anti-Israel, anti-US military and state department beliefs? It don't think it is two much of a stretch to imagine these groups being in cahoots with each other.

>anti-Israel, US Military, and State Department
Wew, not being a neocon shill means you're a Wahabi sympathizer

[Pyrghium]

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

Irving Kristol was a Trotskyist and the majority of neocons in power aren't even Americans.

Neocons (and neoliberals) are to America what the Soviet Regime was to Russia. Even those Russians who rose in the System were serving the Soviet Regime, not Russia or Her interests. The Bolshevik-Soviet Regime was a One Party Oligarchy that ruled over Russia for its own benefit. In Authoritarian States like China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, etc, the Ruling Class is open and in everybody’s face. It’s clear who’s in charge and who’s making decisions. But in liberal Western countries that like to play Democracy-Republicanism, like America, the real Ruling Class hides behind a Curtain of puppets (crooked elected representatives), bureaucrats, and lobbyists to rule the Country.

[Fahran]

And they’re still doing it today. Most of the American Leadership is comprised of boomers, no?

I mean, they did blow up the World Trade Center for an excuse to go to perpetual war on behalf of their homosexualist zio-Bolshevik masters.

This take is literal magma. I think the government's explanation is probably more factually based.

[Fahran]

>anti-Israel, US Military, and State Department
Wew, not being a neocon shill means you're a Wahabi sympathizer

Some anti-interventionists take the line a touch far, but I don't exactly support a lot of the interventions we've engaged in either. More specifically, I'm believing more and more that we shouldn't have toppled Saddam Hussein to replace him with Iranian puppets who were democratically elected and operated literal death squads. We also shouldn't be trying to establish a democracy in Afghanistan. We shuold have installed an Islamist dictator who would have left us alone. The people don't want Taliban rule but they have yet to prevent the Taliban from infiltrating their country. We can't protect everyone's freedom nor should that be our foreign policy goal.

[The East Marches II]

They didn't like my Bloomberg Flag lads. I don't understand why :^)

[Fahran]

They didn't like my Bloomberg Flag lads. I don't understand why :^)

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[Novus America]

>anti-Israel, US Military, and State Department
Wew, not being a neocon shill means you're a Wahabi sympathizer

Some anti-interventionists take the line a touch far, but I don't exactly support a lot of the interventions we've engaged in either. More specifically, I'm believing more and more that we shouldn't have toppled Saddam Hussein to replace him with Iranian puppets who were democratically elected and operated literal death squads. We also shouldn't be trying to establish a democracy in Afghanistan. We shuold have installed an Islamist dictator who would have left us alone. The people don't want Taliban rule but they have yet to prevent the Taliban from infiltrating their country. We can't protect everyone's freedom nor should that be our foreign policy goal.

Pretty much this. We can say many of the interventions were ill thought out and poorly executed without saying it was a conspiracy by dem ebul Jews and whatnot.

Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity (admittedly the two are not always mutually exclusive but still people often just make mistakes without planning the adverse outcome).

[Bear Stearns]

They didn't like my Bloomberg Flag lads. I don't understand why :^)

what did it look like

[Genivaria]

I mean, they did blow up the World Trade Center for an excuse to go to perpetual war on behalf of their homosexualist zio-Bolshevik masters.

This take is literal magma. I think the government's explanation is probably more factually based.

Diopolis seems to blame most things on 'homosexual bolsheviks' are something.
It's like Pat Robertson and Alex Jones had a baby.

[The East Marches II]

They didn't like my Bloomberg Flag lads. I don't understand why :^)

what did it look like

It was this meme

[Fahran]

Pretty much this. We can say many of the interventions were ill thought out and poorly executed without saying it was a conspiracy by dem ebul Jews and whatnot.

Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity (admittedly the two are not always mutually exclusive but still people often just make mistakes without planning the adverse outcome).

I also don't really get the insistence on taking the Palestinian side in the Arab-Israeli conflict while claiming to oppose interventionism. I believe the anti-interventionist position to adopt would be eliminating aid to Israel, which would create a vacuum for the more than willing Russians and Chinese, and halting any further support for a two-state solution, with the Palestinians receiving as a benefactor the would-be super-power that couldn't get Israel. Of course, we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we instigated these changes overnight given that the overarching system in the Middle East probably favors us - we have the Egyptian, Israeli, and Saudi governments. We'll probably have the Turkish government as well if Russia continues kicking around in that region of the world.

It was more complacency that incompetence. We didn't consider al-Qaeda a geopolitical threat because, realistically, they've been more akin to a mosquito as long as they were content to get murdered by local tinpot dictators and monarchs. We dealt a lot of damage to their command structure when we went into Afghanistan but that also allowed them to spread via local cells and affiliated organization as every Islamist terrorist came crawling out from under the floorboards like a cockroach in a recently disturbed abandonned house.

[Nakena]

And they’re still doing it today. Most of the American Leadership is comprised of boomers, no?

I mean, they did blow up the World Trade Center for an excuse to go to perpetual war on behalf of their homosexualist zio-Bolshevik masters.

Kek.

The budget for the tinfoil required for a person to write something like this is more than my monthly income.

I grew up being taught the ancient astronaut theory was literally true and that hypnosis was the best way to learn about the world.
I’d say this is a massive improvement.

Where do you get this stuff from?

Sounds like Godlike Productions.

[Diopolis]

Okay, Dio, I'll bite: how did the CIA convince Al Qaeda to hijack planes and fly them into buildings?

The same way they convinced that crazy guy that killing Reagan would make Jodi Foster fall in love with him so he’d either listen to or be replaced by the Bushes and their deep state cronies.

[LRON]

Okay, Dio, I'll bite: how did the CIA convince Al Qaeda to hijack planes and fly them into buildings?

While that may not be true, it is an open fact that the US government did arm the Mujahideen that became AL Qaeda in the 1980s.

The Mujahideen were made up of a variety of groups. Some were Sunni, others were Shia (we only supported the Sunnis whilst the Iranians supported the Shiites, naturally); others were less ideological, others not so much. We actually rarely directly gave weapons and funds to any of the groups, instead using the ISI and Gulf Arabs to facilitate the transfers as middlemen. Naturally, they favoured their own groups over effective groups which is why most of the bullets were spent shooting at rival Mujahideen groups as opposed to the Soviets or DRA forces. Getting the Pakistanis to budge on that issue was difficult to say the least. Al-Qaeda was formed during the war as one of the various foreign mujahideen groups and most likely got some indirect support from the CIA, which in atypical fashion was actually not the one spinning the dark spider webs. It was a hell of a time, chaps.

[LRON]

And they’re still doing it today. Most of the American Leadership is comprised of boomers, no?

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

This is a joke right? A jest? You do realise that one of the main reasons you are no longer a superpower is because of the damage brought by neoconservatives and their control of American foreign policy?

[Fahran]

There is absolutely no similarity between the commie-sympathizing anti-war hippies of the 60s and the neocons of the 2000s. Neocons are good, anti-communist Americans.

This is a joke right? A jest? You do realise that one of the main reasons you are no longer a superpower is because of the damage brought by neoconservatives and their control of American foreign policy?

The United States is still a super power. The reason we've declined in the way we have has a lot more to do with adopting a trade policy that favors countries with large amounts of cheap labor to offer and no scrupples about putting up suicide nets in factories to stop workers from McMurdering themselves. China is what the demsocs see in laissez-faire capitalism but cranked up to eleven. And with Big Brother as the literary aesthetic instead of Mr. Scrooge.

[Imperial Joseon]

what did it look like

It was this meme

Bloomberg's 78? Shouldn't he retire, then?