Right Wing Discussion Thread XIX

[Albennia]

If what you're saying is true, then it should not be all that difficult to find a real academic source. Which I'm still waiting for.

Said the lazy student.

Then produce something solid which asserts the extent that the adoption of Christianity caused Roman decline, if it caused anything significant at all. And not just from your personal interpretation. If you actually know what you're talking about and have researched this, you ought to have read plenty on the subject and have sources readily at hand.

Memes aren't helping you any, especially not bad memes. And no one educated in history gives any credence to the concept of the "Dark Ages".

Well, if you're truly so concerned, here's a six-volume book on the matter:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25717/25717-h/25717-h.htm

Have fun.

As for laziness, I have two undergrads and a major in history. Bite me.

If you're treating that book as relevant to the current understanding of what happened you're biting yourself.

[The East Marches II]

If what you're saying is true, then it should not be all that difficult to find a real academic source. Which I'm still waiting for.

Said the lazy student.

Then produce something solid which asserts the extent that the adoption of Christianity caused Roman decline, if it caused anything significant at all. And not just from your personal interpretation. If you actually know what you're talking about and have researched this, you ought to have read plenty on the subject and have sources readily at hand.

Memes aren't helping you any, especially not bad memes. And no one educated in history gives any credence to the concept of the "Dark Ages".

Well, if you're truly so concerned, here's a six-volume book on the matter:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25717/25717-h/25717-h.htm

Have fun.

As for laziness, I have two undergrads and a major in history. Bite me.

That as a reference is gonna cause a lot of mad. I'm impressed really you posted it as a source. Very brave!

[Benuty]

On another note the rate of non-Muslim suicide bombers will go up if polygamy because a more than fringe. Obviously this isn’t a good thing, but it’s time more than communists, and Muslims blow themselves up after all trucks of peace are only so effective.

"Trucks of peace" ... cute. *** Warned for trolling. ***

Yeah you can get fucked Farn. I wasn’t targeting Muslims specifically with this comment so please do everyone a favor, and fuck off back to your hot topic Isis granny porn collection.

[Benuty]

It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

[Nakena]

It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

White Slavery?

[Benuty]

It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

White Slavery?

The Chinese are selling Uighur's to factories for top dollar given the normal citizenry is too busy getting fired over this damn pandemic.

[Fahran]

Jefferson was a Masonic deist.

#CathToryGang

You are aware that most Tories were strongly anti-Catholic(ism)?

That wasn't really true of Jacobites. Plus a lot of the Catholics who refused to convert under Elizabeth I came from wealthier families that were able to pay the stiff fines associated with refusing to become a steady Anglican and probably had Tory sympathies at least initially. And quite a few prominent conservatives in the twentieth century were Catholic as well.

[The East Marches II]

It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

We love you lad. Best of luck.

F for the King of Madness

[Nakena]

White Slavery?

The Chinese are selling Uighur's to factories for top dollar given the normal citizenry is too busy getting fired over this damn pandemic.

Noice. Maybe they should do some tele marketing ala "Who wants to buy an Uighur?"

[The East Marches II]

The Chinese are selling Uighur's to factories for top dollar given the normal citizenry is too busy getting fired over this damn pandemic.

Noice. Maybe they should do some tele marketing ala "Who wants to buy an Uighur?"

I think the meme documentary CSA had something about that.

[Mirial Magna]

"Trucks of peace" ... cute. *** Warned for trolling. ***

Yeah you can get fucked Farn. I wasn’t targeting Muslims specifically with this comment so please do everyone a favor, and fuck off back to your hot topic Isis granny porn collection.

This thread is getting too spicy for the jannies, fren.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

[Albennia]

You are aware that most Tories were strongly anti-Catholic(ism)?

That wasn't really true of Jacobites. Plus a lot of the Catholics who refused to convert under Elizabeth I came from wealthier families that were able to pay the stiff fines associated with refusing to become a steady Anglican and probably had Tory sympathies at least initially.

Oh it was very true of plenty of English Jacobites. It's not as simple as the Wikipedia article would have you think. Take a look at the Duke of Beaufort for instance.

[Genivaria]

On another note the rate of non-Muslim suicide bombers will go up if polygamy because a more than fringe. Obviously this isn’t a good thing, but it’s time more than communists, and Muslims blow themselves up after all trucks of peace are only so effective.

"Trucks of peace" ... cute. *** Warned for trolling. ***

How is that fucking trolling!?

[Fahran]

Greece and Rome are hailed as the greatest civilizations of the western world - in contrast to the fair more egalitarian barbarian states. Just saying

In Rome adultery was rampant, while among the Germanic peoples it was resolutely opposed.

The Romans usually took a dim view of adultery as well...

[Joohan]

It’s been real folks. See you when the Chinese get good at the international Slave market like their Qatari competitors.

Salute's.

Give OEP my regatds

[Fahran]

This is true. Which is why I say the current state and ideology is hell-bent on abolishing itself. The geniuses are now busily telling us polygamy won't end negatively despite all evidence to the contrary. I hope they enjoy the consequences of a pool of young men with nothing to lose accelerating in growth should they ever get such an insane wish passed.

The slippery slope literally turned out to be a real thing and now we're having to literally oppose polygamy.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

All kinds of poly is defectdefect, which should be heavily suppressed, but unfortunately our society penalises people who follow the rules and promotes those who don't

[The East Marches II]

All kinds of poly is defectdefect, which should be heavily suppressed, but unfortunately our society penalises people who follow the rules and promotes those who don't

Yes, this entirely correct. One can see Bioleninism in action on this very forum.

[Fahran]

As hard a pill as it can be to swallow, Christianity definitely played a prominent role in the fall of the Roman Empire. For the better part of three centuries, Christians were a subversive and dissident group who often refused to adopt Roman customs and were disloyal to the state. They weren't nearly as big of a problem as institutions like the Praetorian Guard, but they certainly didn't help to improve matters.

It was also rather problematic that, after the tables were turned and Christianity became the state-religion of Rome, the Church immediately set about destroying temples and removing everything it considered to be pagan. In its zealotry, over a thousand years of Roman heritage and culture were consecrated to the flames.

Granted, Christianity helped to keep the spirit of Rome alive through the dark days of the Middle Ages, but that was after the empire was dead.

The adoption of Christianity arguably subsumed a lot of the competing cult traditions that had created divisions and tensions within Roman society. There's a pretty strong argument to be made that Christianity actually slowed the decline of the Roman Empire, especially in the East where it continued on for another millennium. Importantly, the Church served as an institutional save point for a lot of Roman customs, eventually reintroducing them to Germanic populations in France, Italy, Spain, and Germany. Monogamy for instance. And the Latin language.

[Albennia]

In Rome adultery was rampant, while among the Germanic peoples it was resolutely opposed.

The Romans usually took a dim view of adultery as well...

Whatever they might have said, in reality it was anything but a dim view.

[Genivaria]

The Romans usually took a dim view of adultery as well...

Whatever they might have said, in reality it was anything but a dim view.

You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

[Albennia]

Whatever they might have said, in reality it was anything but a dim view.

You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

Massive LOL if you think that was ever enforced. It wasn't. Adultery was socially acceptable and done by most of the elites.

[Fahran]

You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

Massive LOL if you think that was ever enforced. It wasn't. Adultery was socially acceptable and done by most of the elites.

Augustus literally turned into the meme-worthy Thot Police and exiled his own daughter for being promiscuous. One of his principal criticisms of Marcus Antonius was that he was committing adultery with Cleopatra and disregarding his wholesome tradwife Octavia, Augustus's sister. The Romans did actually follow through on their attitudes towards adultery even if that wasn't always consistent or perfect. Because sexual impropriety tends to occur regardless of how strict social conventions are. That doesn't mean it isn't frowned upon and doesn't have consequences.

[Salus Maior]

You understand that adultery was viewed as an actual crime right?

Massive LOL if you think that was ever enforced. It wasn't. Adultery was socially acceptable and done by most of the elites.

Some things never change.