Virginia declares emergency Militias threaten to seize Gov.

[Neu California]

What is the point of gun control, it's not to keep people safe, it's not to stop gun violence because most of the gun violence is done by people who get their guns illegally and have the money to get their guns illegally.

It's not to stop mass shootings because the vast majority of mass shootings come from people who were perfectly normal up until the day they woke up and decided to kill people.

So why indeed?


I don't have any right wing sources because I'm not right wing.
Most of the other gun rights people on NSG know this already.

I can only give you my theory from a leftist perspective that views gun control through class issues and in some case race issues.

And it paints that gun control mostly comes from a group of people who personally never need to use guns so in their mind no one needs to use guns.

I could develop more but are you really willing to listen?


Just having some fun.

What's your supporting data?

I'm starting to become convinced that he doesn't have any and is just here to cast aspersions

[Infected Mushroom]

Have they done anything violent yet (these rebels)?

Not to my knowledge. There are claims of threats being made, hence the 'state of emergency', but apparently not enough of a threat to arrest those responsible.

I have every confidence that the US government will demonstrate to us the proper way to end these types of protests/insurrections

I’m sure that when they move in to make arrests, they won’t have to beat anyone even when things get heated up... the beatings are only needed when your police force isn’t “sufficiently well trained”... even when surrounded and with large crowds moving around, people resisting arrests, all the arrests shall be made without any physical beating

Am I right ?

When the time comes, the USA will meet the demands of the rebels (or find a way to magically end it all without any use of minimum necessary force)

[USS Monitor]

No, fuck the Yankees.

Imagine getting this worked up over baseball.

Baseball is serious business!

[Kargintina the Third]

Not to my knowledge. There are claims of threats being made, hence the 'state of emergency', but apparently not enough of a threat to arrest those responsible.

I have every confidence that the US government will demonstrate to us the proper way to end these types of protests/insurrections

I’m sure that when they move in to make arrests, they won’t have to beat anyone even when things get heated up... the beatings are only needed when your police force isn’t “sufficiently well trained”... even when surrounded and with large crowds moving around, all the arrests shall be made without any physical beating

Am I right ?

Well if it’s the ATF they don’t shoot you they just go straight for the dog

[Dogmeat]

Not to my knowledge. There are claims of threats being made, hence the 'state of emergency', but apparently not enough of a threat to arrest those responsible.

I have every confidence that the US government will demonstrate to us the proper way to end these types of protests/insurrections

I’m sure that when they move in to make arrests, they won’t have to beat anyone even when things get heated up... the beatings are only needed when your police force isn’t “sufficiently well trained”... even when surrounded and with large crowds moving around, all the arrests shall be made without any physical beating

Am I right ?

The answer to that question is always the same.

[The Lone Alliance]

What's your supporting data?

For you?

None. I will never give you any data period.

[Dogmeat]

I have every confidence that the US government will demonstrate to us the proper way to end these types of protests/insurrections

I’m sure that when they move in to make arrests, they won’t have to beat anyone even when things get heated up... the beatings are only needed when your police force isn’t “sufficiently well trained”... even when surrounded and with large crowds moving around, all the arrests shall be made without any physical beating

Am I right ?

Well if it’s the ATF they don’t shoot you they just go straight for the dog

In fairness, I can take it.

[Albrenia]

Well if it’s the ATF they don’t shoot you they just go straight for the dog

In fairness, I can take it.

If you need a stimpack just say. You're the one companion I don't mind using them.

[Neu California]

What's your supporting data?

For you?

None. I will never give you any data period.

Because you don't have any.

[Kargintina the Third]

In fairness, I can take it.

If you need a stimpack just say. You're the one companion I don't mind using them.

Lol companions. They just fuck up my stealth

[Vassenor]

What's your supporting data?

For you?

None. I will never give you any data period.

Thank you for admitting to the thread at large that you have no supporting data.

[The Lone Alliance]

I'm starting to become convinced that he doesn't have any and is just here to cast aspersions

That's the problem with being a leftist who supports gun rights, all the sources are from right wingers who can't help but see it through their right wing lenses.

Trying to find some left wing sources behind gun rights will take awhile but I will find it for you at least.

Thank you for admitting to the thread at large that you have no supporting data.

No I'm saying I will never give you supporting Data.

[Dogmeat]

If you need a stimpack just say. You're the one companion I don't mind using them.

Lol companions. They just fuck up my stealth

And pretend like it wasn't on purpose

[Dogmeat]

But never for Vassenor.

That is a very odd way to spite someone.

"I hate you SOOOO much, that I will make you appear correct in all arguments."

[Albrenia]

If you need a stimpack just say. You're the one companion I don't mind using them.

Lol companions. They just fuck up my stealth

Reminds me of Fallout 2, where one must do stealthy shit before getting married lest one's wife try to charge Enclave bases head-on and entirely unarmed.

Cheaper than a divorce though, I guess.

[The Lone Alliance]

But never for Vassenor.

That is a very odd way to spite someone.

"I hate you SOOOO much, that I will make you appear correct in all arguments."

No it's simply not engaging, why waste time collecting data for someone who has no intention of actually reading it and changing their views?

Neu is at least willing to engage with me and I respect that.

I've seen too many bad faith posts by Vassenor to accept their offers for sources to be sincere.

Really the only reason I haven't added them to block is sometimes they say something profound.

[Kargintina the Third]

That is a very odd way to spite someone.

"I hate you SOOOO much, that I will make you appear correct in all arguments."

No it's simply not engaging, why waste time collecting data for someone who has no intention of actually reading it and changing their views?

Neu is at least willing to engage with me and I respect that.

Tbf I’m willing to bet money not a single person scrolling this thread has had their views changed in any way today.

[Vassenor]

That is a very odd way to spite someone.

"I hate you SOOOO much, that I will make you appear correct in all arguments."

No it's simply not engaging, why waste time collecting data for someone who has no intention of actually reading it and changing their views?

Neu is at least willing to engage with me and I respect that.

Or you could just admit you don't have the data.

[The Lone Alliance]

No it's simply not engaging, why waste time collecting data for someone who has no intention of actually reading it and changing their views?

Neu is at least willing to engage with me and I respect that.

Tbf I’m willing to bet money not a single person scrolling this thread has had their views changed in any way today.

True but at least we have had some interesting discussion here.

The idea on how a county could secede, the possible legalities of various things, on if these supposed militias are a serious threat or are just a bunch of idiotic internet tough guys who will promptly wet themselves if the police showed up... on if Antifa is really planning to show up and what they are going to do there.

[Telconi]

That is a very odd way to spite someone.

"I hate you SOOOO much, that I will make you appear correct in all arguments."

No it's simply not engaging, why waste time collecting data for someone who has no intention of actually reading it and changing their views?

Neu is at least willing to engage with me and I respect that.

I've seen too many bad faith posts by Vassenor to accept their offers for sources to be sincere.

Really the only reason I haven't added them to block is sometimes they say something profound.

I'm gonna need a source on that last bit.

[Kargintina the Third]

If the very unlikely chance of the militia actually storming the government buildings and somehow apprehending the governor, who would have control of the VA National Guard. Trump?

[Telconi]

For you?

None. I will never give you any data period.

Because you don't have any.

It's a fool's errand anyway, you can't factually verify intent.

[Vassenor]

If the very unlikely chance of the militia actually storming the government buildings and somehow apprehending the governor, who would have control of the VA National Guard. Trump?

National Guard are under the control of the State, not Federal.

[Kargintina the Third]

If the very unlikely chance of the militia actually storming the government buildings and somehow apprehending the governor, who would have control of the VA National Guard. Trump?

National Guard are under the control of the State, not Federal.

I’m saying who would it fall too if the state government wasn’t available to take control.

[Telconi]

If the very unlikely chance of the militia actually storming the government buildings and somehow apprehending the governor, who would have control of the VA National Guard. Trump?

The Lieutenant governor, unless nationalized.