Virginia declares emergency Militias threaten to seize Gov.

[USS Monitor]

Bleeding Kansas, 2020: It's Time to Avenge 1865, boi.

Shush and let me enjoy my retirement, why don't you.

[Telconi]

Sure it is, "Guns" cover a massive breadth of devices, I own a gun designed for and optimized for hitting paper targets, specifically. I have a gun designed for and optimized for teaching children shooting skills, I have a gun designed for and optimized for teaching people how a gun works, in fact, that last one is wholly incapable of harming anyone, well, as a gun, I suppose if you threw it at someone hard enough it could harm.

Fair point. I'd include most of those as the exceptions I mentioned, but it is a fair point nonetheless.

It's also worth noting that "designed to kill" is also deceptive on and of itself. I have a gun specifically designed and intended for killing, but would make a far inferior weapon than a typical brick.

[Telconi]

Yes, demand proof for that which you cannot prove. Surely you've won now!

He made the assertion first. If he can't prove then why should anyone believe him?

After all the burden of proof is on the one making the claim

And you made a counter claim, got any proof of yours?

It's also worth noting that many gun control laws are blanket restrictions, and in such cases his assertion is blatantly self evident.

[Albrenia]

I wonder if the protesters are going to go all Yellow Vest and show up repeatedly over a prolonged period of time. Seems like a pretty decent way of effecting change while not resorting to storming anything.

[Totally Not OEP]

I wonder if the protesters are going to go all Yellow Vest and show up repeatedly over a prolonged period of time. Seems like a pretty decent way of effecting change while not resorting to storming anything.

There's no fun in that though.

[Telconi]

I wonder if the protesters are going to go all Yellow Vest and show up repeatedly over a prolonged period of time. Seems like a pretty decent way of effecting change while not resorting to storming anything.

Sounds slow, and ineffective.

[Krasny-Volny]

Fair point. I'd include most of those as the exceptions I mentioned, but it is a fair point nonetheless.

It's also worth noting that "designed to kill" is also deceptive on and of itself. I have a gun specifically designed and intended for killing, but would make a far inferior weapon than a typical brick.

You own a blunderbuss?

[Totally Not OEP]

It's also worth noting that "designed to kill" is also deceptive on and of itself. I have a gun specifically designed and intended for killing, but would make a far inferior weapon than a typical brick.

You own a blunderbuss?

Hell, I own a PIAT.

[Krasny-Volny]

You own a blunderbuss?

Hell, I own a PIAT.

But why.

You can get something that’s actually designed as a paperweight for two bits.

[Crockerland]

Looks like terrorists to me.

The governor and his cronies? You're totally right, I hope they will be arrested for trying to subvert the constitution and enforce state terror against their own people.

[Neu California]

Looks like terrorists to me.

The governor and his cronies? You're totally right, I hope they will be arrested for trying to subvert the constitution and enforce state terror against their own people.

[Telconi]

It's also worth noting that "designed to kill" is also deceptive on and of itself. I have a gun specifically designed and intended for killing, but would make a far inferior weapon than a typical brick.

You own a blunderbuss?

No, it's a livestock killing gun, it has a captive projectile.

[Vassenor]

So yeah, resorting to terrorism because people don't think your guns are the most awesome thing in the history of ever?

Sounds pretty snowflake behaviour to me.

[Albrenia]

You own a blunderbuss?

No, it's a livestock killing gun, it has a captive projectile.

Oh, like a bolt gun or whatever they call it?

[Telconi]

So yeah, resorting to terrorism because people don't think your guns are the most awesome thing in the history of ever?

Sounds pretty snowflake behaviour to me.

I have a feeling your opinion is based largely upon your desire to see other people suffer, and not on any decent basis.

[Infected Mushroom]

Let’s see if the US government can handle this one without earning tons of unfair “allegations of police brutality.” It’s ironic that this is now happening in America since their government loves to have the moral high ground on everything; I definitely want to see what happens next.

Let’s see how well the American government plays this ridiculous game. “Oh they (the protestors) have guns and bombs but if the police start beating anyone to make arrests... the police are to blame.”

If things do escalate, I hope to see the PRC pass a “Virginia Human Rights and Democracy Act” as an ultimate act of irony.

[Albrenia]

Let’s see if the US government can handle this one without earning tons of unfair “allegations of police brutality.” It’s ironic that this is now happening in America since their government loves to have the moral high ground on everything; I definitely want to see what happens next.

Let’s see how well the American government plays this ridiculous game. “Oh they (the protestors) have guns and bombs but if the police start beating anyone to make arrests... the police are to blame.”

If things do escalate, I hope to see the PRC pass a “Virginia Human Rights and Democracy Act” as an ultimate act of irony.

I don't think they have bombs, although they most certainly do have guns. Unless they start actively using said guns though, beating the shit out of them or mass arresting them for just protesting would be a tyrannical act.

[Infected Mushroom]

Let’s see if the US government can handle this one without earning tons of unfair “allegations of police brutality.” It’s ironic that this is now happening in America since their government loves to have the moral high ground on everything; I definitely want to see what happens next.

Let’s see how well the American government plays this ridiculous game. “Oh they (the protestors) have guns and bombs but if the police start beating anyone to make arrests... the police are to blame.”

If things do escalate, I hope to see the PRC pass a “Virginia Human Rights and Democracy Act” as an ultimate act of irony.

I don't think they have bombs, although they most certainly do have guns. Unless they start actively using said guns though, beating the shit out of them or mass arresting them for just protesting would be a tyrannical act.

Have they done anything violent yet (these rebels)?

[Albrenia]

I don't think they have bombs, although they most certainly do have guns. Unless they start actively using said guns though, beating the shit out of them or mass arresting them for just protesting would be a tyrannical act.

Have they done anything violent yet (these rebels)?

Not to my knowledge. There are claims of threats being made, hence the 'state of emergency', but apparently not enough of a threat to arrest those responsible.

[The Lone Alliance]

Okay, prove that that's what gun control is for in its entirety.

What is the point of gun control, it's not to keep people safe, it's not to stop gun violence because most of the gun violence is done by people who get their guns illegally and have the money to get their guns illegally.

It's not to stop mass shootings because the vast majority of mass shootings come from people who were perfectly normal up until the day they woke up and decided to kill people.

So why indeed?

With sources. Lots of non-right wing sources.

I don't have any right wing sources because I'm not right wing.
Most of the other gun rights people on NSG know this already.

I can only give you my theory from a leftist perspective that views gun control through class issues and in some case race issues.

And it paints that gun control mostly comes from a group of people who personally never need to use guns so in their mind no one needs to use guns and thus don't give a damn about the people who might need to use guns because "They aren't them".

I could develop more but are you really willing to listen?

Also, your reduction as absurdum is just stupid. Stupid enough that I refuse to dignify it with a response

Just having some fun.

[Totally Not OEP]

So yeah, resorting to terrorism because people don't think your guns are the most awesome thing in the history of ever?

Sounds pretty snowflake behaviour to me.

Words you'll never say in person to them either, I bet.

[Vassenor]

Okay, prove that that's what gun control is for in its entirety.

What is the point of gun control, it's not to keep people safe, it's not to stop gun violence because most of the gun violence is done by people who get their guns illegally and have the money to get their guns illegally.

It's not to stop mass shootings because the vast majority of mass shootings come from people who were perfectly normal up until the day they woke up and decided to kill people.

So why indeed?

With sources. Lots of non-right wing sources.

I don't have any right wing sources because I'm not right wing.
Most of the other gun rights people on NSG know this already.

I can only give you my theory from a leftist perspective that views gun control through class issues and in some case race issues.

And it paints that gun control mostly comes from a group of people who personally never need to use guns so in their mind no one needs to use guns.

I could develop more but are you really willing to listen?

Also, your reduction as absurdum is just stupid. Stupid enough that I refuse to dignify it with a response

Just having some fun.

What's your supporting data?

[Totally Not OEP]

Bleeding Kansas, 2020: It's Time to Avenge 1865, boi.

Shush and let me enjoy my retirement, why don't you.

No, fuck the Yankees.

[USS Monitor]

Shush and let me enjoy my retirement, why don't you.

No, fuck the Yankees.

YEAH!!! GO RED SOX!!!

You did mean the baseball team, right?

[Dogmeat]

Shush and let me enjoy my retirement, why don't you.

No, fuck the Yankees.

Imagine getting this worked up over baseball.