Virginia declares emergency Militias threaten to seize Gov.

[Telconi]

What's stopping them from running their spouse over when they walk out of the store?
Better take their car as well.

How often are people intentionally killed by car?

Are car murders anywhere near as high as gun murders? Even among just domestic abusers?

Also, fun fact, having a gun in a domestically violent home increases the likelihood of a murder in the home by 500%

https://ncadv.org/statistics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447915/

That alone is worth keeping guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, in my opinion, especially as death by domestic abuser is the seventh most common cause of premature death among women. But apparently your rights are more important than protecting people from getting killed by their intimate others.

How many people's rights would you need to restrict to have an impact on rates of domestic homicide?

[Bombadil]

As it stands the 2nd Amendment forces that distinction. If one accepts the right to bear arms can be infringed in any way then the 2nd Amendment is obsolete.

It's possible to accept some infringement and not other, we do this with all rights. I can absolutely marry another man, I absolutely cannot marry an infant.

Well there's nowhere in the constitution that reads 'A well-regulated sex life, being necessary to the happiness of a free state, the right of the people to marry, shall not be infringed'.

If there was there'd be people storming state legislatures for their right to marry their corgi.

[Totally Not OEP]

My body is ready

[Telconi]

It's possible to accept some infringement and not other, we do this with all rights. I can absolutely marry another man, I absolutely cannot marry an infant.

Well there's nowhere in the constitution that reads 'A well-regulated sex life, being necessary to the happiness of a free state, the right of the people to marry, shall not be infringed'.

If there was there'd be people storming state legislatures for their right to marry their corgi.

Perhaps, and why not, there's some old ladies around town that might as well be married to their corgis.

[Neanderthaland]

My 80-centimetre railway gun approves.

Does it only fire solid shot?

At 80 centimetres and a muzzle velocity of 820 m/s, it doesn't really matter.

[Nocturnes rest]

How often are people intentionally killed by car?

Are car murders anywhere near as high as gun murders? Even among just domestic abusers?

Also, fun fact, having a gun in a domestically violent home increases the likelihood of a murder in the home by 500%

https://ncadv.org/statistics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447915/

That alone is worth keeping guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, in my opinion, especially as death by domestic abuser is the seventh most common cause of premature death among women. But apparently your rights are more important than protecting people from getting killed by their intimate others.

Protecting everyone’s rights is important, yes. You understand why allowing for the removal of rights without due process is a bad thing, yeah?

No one is arguing for removal, just restriction.

Also, answer me this: is your absolutely unrestricted right to bear arms more important than protecting people right to avoid being murdered by abusive loved ones? I'm focusing on one aspect right now.

[Ors Might]

Well there's nowhere in the constitution that reads 'A well-regulated sex life, being necessary to the happiness of a free state, the right of the people to marry, shall not be infringed'.

If there was there'd be people storming state legislatures for their right to marry their corgi.

Perhaps, and why not, there's some old ladies around town that might as well be married to their corgis.

Let the corgis collect on that life insurance.

[Telconi]

Does it only fire solid shot?

At 80 centimetres and a muzzle velocity of 820 m/s, it doesn't really matter.

It's just for the paperwork.

[The Two Jerseys]

Does it only fire solid shot?

At 80 centimetres and a muzzle velocity of 820 m/s, it doesn't really matter.

Speak American!

[Telconi]

Protecting everyone’s rights is important, yes. You understand why allowing for the removal of rights without due process is a bad thing, yeah?

No one is arguing for removal, just restriction.

Also, answer me this: is your absolutely unrestricted right to bear arms more important than protecting people right to avoid being murdered by abusive loved ones? I'm focusing on one aspect right now.

Topological restriction, not subject based.

[Neanderthaland]

At 80 centimetres and a muzzle velocity of 820 m/s, it doesn't really matter.

Speak American!

Big gun go boom.

[Bombadil]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

[Telconi]

At 80 centimetres and a muzzle velocity of 820 m/s, it doesn't really matter.

Speak American!

One eagle width projectile diameter flying at 45 freedoms per tea party

[Telconi]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

I went out back and shot four different firearms today, judging by the fact that Mr. Sanchez and family are all still alive and well, so do guns.

[Ors Might]

Protecting everyone’s rights is important, yes. You understand why allowing for the removal of rights without due process is a bad thing, yeah?

No one is arguing for removal, just restriction.

Also, answer me this: is your absolutely unrestricted right to bear arms more important than protecting people right to avoid being murdered by abusive loved ones? I'm focusing on one aspect right now.

You are arguing for removal though. Removing the rights of others without due process because of what they might do.

How would restricting my right to defend myself help abuse victims that are living with their abuser? Wouldn’t it be more effective to separate them and put the abuser on trial?

[Nocturnes rest]

How often are people intentionally killed by car?

Are car murders anywhere near as high as gun murders? Even among just domestic abusers?

Also, fun fact, having a gun in a domestically violent home increases the likelihood of a murder in the home by 500%

https://ncadv.org/statistics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447915/

That alone is worth keeping guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, in my opinion, especially as death by domestic abuser is the seventh most common cause of premature death among women. But apparently your rights are more important than protecting people from getting killed by their intimate others.

How many people's rights would you need to restrict to have an impact on rates of domestic homicide?[/quote
Depends. How many domestic abusers (and others) have restraining orders against them? I imagine keeping guns away from them would make a dent in the murder of battered wives and husbands.

If you have any evidence (not anecdotes or claims) to the contrary, I'd love to see them. My evidence is the 500% increase in deaths when there is a gun in a battered person's home but I have no further evidence I admit.

[Ors Might]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

There are plenty of knives designed solely to kill, though.

[Bombadil]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

I went out back and shot four different firearms today, judging by the fact that Mr. Sanchez and family are all still alive and well, so do guns.

Your poor aim doesn't obviate the point.

[Neanderthaland]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

I went out back and shot four different firearms today, judging by the fact that Mr. Sanchez and family are all still alive and well, so do guns.

He did have to reincarnate in a bunch of fascist dimensions tho...

[Telconi]

How many people's rights would you need to restrict to have an impact on rates of domestic homicide?[/quote
Depends. How many domestic abusers (and others) have restraining orders against them? I imagine keeping guns away from them would make a dent in the murder of battered wives and husbands.

If you have any evidence (not anecdotes or claims) to the contrary, I'd love to see them. My evidence is the 500% increase in deaths when there is a gun in a battered person's home but I have no further evidence I admit.

Which isn't really relevant to the issue at hand here, as Virginia's law doesnt restrict posession by abusers.

[Telconi]

I went out back and shot four different firearms today, judging by the fact that Mr. Sanchez and family are all still alive and well, so do guns.

Your poor aim doesn't obviate the point.

You didn't have a point, you had a false assertion.

[The Lone Alliance]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

Yes they are also designed to kill the people who would mow down your neighbor.

You simply ask everyone to disarm themselves and stand around with making finger guns while they're being mowed down.

Because like said before, evil people don't follow rules.

[Neanderthaland]

The difference between cars, knives or guns is that only one is specifically designed solely to kill. Cars and knives have plenty of other useful purposes asides from mowing down your neighbour, regardless of their also being useful in that regard.

There are plenty of knives designed solely to kill, though.

Similarly, if I really wanted to, I could use this Maschinengewehr 42 to open a cardboard box.

[Ors Might]

There are plenty of knives designed solely to kill, though.

Similarly, if I really wanted to, I could use this Maschinengewehr 42 to open a cardboard box.

As you should.

[The Lone Alliance]

Similarly, if I really wanted to, I could use this Maschinengewehr 42 to open a cardboard box.

As you should.

If it has Solid Snake inside you might need more than that.