Why do you think so many of them are so anti-gun, it's likely that many of them can't trust themselves with a gun, so they believe no one can be trusted with a gun.
It's Projection.
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by The Lone Alliance » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:03 pm

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:05 pm
Cisairse wrote:Thermodolia wrote:But they do. Effectively. The president is in charge of enforcing the law. If tomorrow the president decided to not enforce a law he’s technically just interpreted the laws.
Congress can’t force the president to really do anything if he refuses to enforce anything
Congress absolutely can mandate enforcement of statutes.

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:07 pm
Grinning Dragon wrote:Telconi wrote:
Only if you care about those minorities.
They only care about minorities when they need to count on their vote, then it's back to fucking them over along with everyone else.
One thing I have noticed over the years, is the uptick in minority shooters at the ranges. When asked if they had always been into firearms, the answer is usually no and they attribute their interest after hearing from folks like Colion and Maj.

by Krasny-Volny » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:24 pm
The Lone Alliance wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:Which brings us back to the age old question, why are those who are anti gun so violent?
Why do you think so many of them are so anti-gun, it's likely that many of them can't trust themselves with a gun, so they believe no one can be trusted with a gun.
It's Projection.

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:25 pm
The Lone Alliance wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:Which brings us back to the age old question, why are those who are anti gun so violent?
Why do you think so many of them are so anti-gun, it's likely that many of them can't trust themselves with a gun, so they believe no one can be trusted with a gun.
It's Projection.

by Telconi » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:27 pm
Krasny-Volny wrote:The Lone Alliance wrote:Why do you think so many of them are so anti-gun, it's likely that many of them can't trust themselves with a gun, so they believe no one can be trusted with a gun.
It's Projection.
It’s just unfamiliarity. And like that quote from Batman Begins, you’re always afraid of what you don’t understand.
I make it a point to try and introduce my friends unfamiliar with guns to guns when they visit. They’re free to have whatever opinions they want on gun control (and we don’t discuss that unless it comes up), but I just want them to see how mine work, basic safety, and get a chance to load and shoot one themselves if they want.
I find that after being allowed to see guns up close and handle them, opinions on gun control change with the level of familiarity. Some still have no interest in owning guns themselves, but at least they’re no longer afraid of them and can appreciate why I have them.

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:29 pm

by Cisairse » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:31 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Let me tell you about a very possible future that you are already seeing in places like Washington which have just introduced a proposed ban on "high capacity mags'
Democrats will continue to bring in illegal immigrants, as they always do, and offer welfare to the poor, homeless,addicted etc etc
they will use this massive horde of easily swayed voters which can be very easily bought with things like "sanctuary" or "safe injection sites" and "low cost housing"
they will use this horde, and I do mean horde, to simply outvote the rural areas by dominating the dense urban areas.
First they will vote your weapons away
second they will vote your resources away
third they will vote your speech away.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:32 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:34 pm
Cisairse wrote:Nazeroth wrote:Let me tell you about a very possible future that you are already seeing in places like Washington which have just introduced a proposed ban on "high capacity mags'
Democrats will continue to bring in illegal immigrants, as they always do, and offer welfare to the poor, homeless,addicted etc etc
they will use this massive horde of easily swayed voters which can be very easily bought with things like "sanctuary" or "safe injection sites" and "low cost housing"
they will use this horde, and I do mean horde, to simply outvote the rural areas by dominating the dense urban areas.
First they will vote your weapons away
second they will vote your resources away
third they will vote your speech away.
Ok Mr. Hannity

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:34 pm
Telconi wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:
It’s just unfamiliarity. And like that quote from Batman Begins, you’re always afraid of what you don’t understand.
I make it a point to try and introduce my friends unfamiliar with guns to guns when they visit. They’re free to have whatever opinions they want on gun control (and we don’t discuss that unless it comes up), but I just want them to see how mine work, basic safety, and get a chance to load and shoot one themselves if they want.
I find that after being allowed to see guns up close and handle them, opinions on gun control change with the level of familiarity. Some still have no interest in owning guns themselves, but at least they’re no longer afraid of them and can appreciate why I have them.
I think excusing their beliefs as simple ignorance is foolhardy.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:34 pm

by Krasny-Volny » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:34 pm
Telconi wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:
It’s just unfamiliarity. And like that quote from Batman Begins, you’re always afraid of what you don’t understand.
I make it a point to try and introduce my friends unfamiliar with guns to guns when they visit. They’re free to have whatever opinions they want on gun control (and we don’t discuss that unless it comes up), but I just want them to see how mine work, basic safety, and get a chance to load and shoot one themselves if they want.
I find that after being allowed to see guns up close and handle them, opinions on gun control change with the level of familiarity. Some still have no interest in owning guns themselves, but at least they’re no longer afraid of them and can appreciate why I have them.
I think excusing their beliefs as simple ignorance is foolhardy.

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:36 pm

by Telconi » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:38 pm
Krasny-Volny wrote:Telconi wrote:
I think excusing their beliefs as simple ignorance is foolhardy.
It’s fear, and fear is caused by ignorance, so I fail to see how it’s any way an unreasonable conclusion. People don’t trust themselves (or others) with firearms because they’re scary, the devices of terrifying spree shooters and gangbangers. Again, this is fear caused by personal unfamiliarity with firearms in any other context.

by Krasny-Volny » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:38 pm
Grinning Dragon wrote:Telconi wrote:
Only if you care about those minorities.
They only care about minorities when they need to count on their vote, then it's back to fucking them over along with everyone else.
One thing I have noticed over the years, is the uptick in minority shooters at the ranges. When asked if they had always been into firearms, the answer is usually no and they attribute their interest after hearing from folks like Colion and Maj.

by Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:39 pm
Cisairse wrote:Nazeroth wrote:Let me tell you about a very possible future that you are already seeing in places like Washington which have just introduced a proposed ban on "high capacity mags'
Democrats will continue to bring in illegal immigrants, as they always do, and offer welfare to the poor, homeless,addicted etc etc
they will use this massive horde of easily swayed voters which can be very easily bought with things like "sanctuary" or "safe injection sites" and "low cost housing"
they will use this horde, and I do mean horde, to simply outvote the rural areas by dominating the dense urban areas.
First they will vote your weapons away
second they will vote your resources away
third they will vote your speech away.
Ok Mr. Hannity

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:39 pm
Telconi wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:
It’s fear, and fear is caused by ignorance, so I fail to see how it’s any way an unreasonable conclusion. People don’t trust themselves (or others) with firearms because they’re scary, the devices of terrifying spree shooters and gangbangers. Again, this is fear caused by personal unfamiliarity with firearms in any other context.
Which brings up why we're allowing children to vote.

by Cisairse » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:42 pm

by Telconi » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:42 pm
Cisairse wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:
You shouldn't dismiss this outright as there is a grain of truth here. Since black Americans are beginning to vote other than solely democrat, the democrat party needs fresh meat.
There is not a grain of truth to the claim that Democrats will "vote your resources" and "speech away."

by Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:43 pm
Cisairse wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:
You shouldn't dismiss this outright as there is a grain of truth here. Since black Americans are beginning to vote other than solely democrat, the democrat party needs fresh meat.
There is not a grain of truth to the claim that Democrats will "vote your resources" and "speech away."

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:43 pm
Cisairse wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:
You shouldn't dismiss this outright as there is a grain of truth here. Since black Americans are beginning to vote other than solely democrat, the democrat party needs fresh meat.
There is not a grain of truth to the claim that Democrats will "vote your resources" and "speech away."

by Cisairse » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:44 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Cisairse wrote:
There is not a grain of truth to the claim that Democrats will "vote your resources" and "speech away."
Example: California, the state I LIVE in
the democrat control the large dense urban areas FILLED with most of the nations homeless and declared themselves sanctuary cities
Gov newsom just passed a bill that gives illegals 25 and younger acess to medicare(i think teusday)
First they said " we just want high capacity mags"
then it all went down hill after that.

by Nazeroth » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:46 pm
Cisairse wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
Example: California, the state I LIVE in
the democrat control the large dense urban areas FILLED with most of the nations homeless and declared themselves sanctuary cities
Gov newsom just passed a bill that gives illegals 25 and younger acess to medicare(i think teusday)
First they said " we just want high capacity mags"
then it all went down hill after that.
None of that has anything to do with resources or speech.

by Diopolis » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:45 am
Nazeroth wrote:Telconi wrote:
Which brings up why we're allowing children to vote.
its obvious, children are very easy to control and influence which makes them great voters which is PERFECT if your ideology dominates the education system
I wonder what party is DEEP inside the ass of education?....hmmmm![]()
remember, any good totalitarian state needs to have the youth vote.
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