Virginia declares emergency Militias threaten to seize Gov.

[New Paine]

They might support stricter restrictions, but Northam's newest laws essentially ban gun ownership in any form.

Isn't there a conservative-leaning Supreme Court who would be all too happy to dropkick that sort of thing out if it was brought to them? Or does US law not work like that? Not really knowledgable on such things myself.

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

[Telconi]

Isn't there a conservative-leaning Supreme Court who would be all too happy to dropkick that sort of thing out if it was brought to them? Or does US law not work like that? Not really knowledgable on such things myself.

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

Which is exactly why it's the wrong thing to do.

[Northern Davincia]

Isn't there a conservative-leaning Supreme Court who would be all too happy to dropkick that sort of thing out if it was brought to them? Or does US law not work like that? Not really knowledgable on such things myself.

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

Laws are beneath what is morally right.

[Albrenia]

Isn't there a conservative-leaning Supreme Court who would be all too happy to dropkick that sort of thing out if it was brought to them? Or does US law not work like that? Not really knowledgable on such things myself.

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

Also doesn't weaken the fabric of their democracy, which violent seizing of power would. Then again I'm just a sucker for people not getting hurt or killed unless shit starts to get really serious.

[Kargintina the Third]

The Virginia freedom fighters have a moral obligation to remove Governor Northam from power. When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

[Telconi]

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

Also doesn't weaken the fabric of their democracy, which violent seizing of power would. Then again I'm just a sucker for people not getting hurt or killed unless shit starts to get really serious.

Psst, hey...

Shit is really serious.

[Neu California]

I posted a poll earlier that suggests that they do

It was a Nationwide one old boy with ill defined terms.

No, it was this post specifically talking about a poll in Virginia:

Poll last month said that a majority of Virginians supported increased gun control, though they weren't asked about most of the specific policies passed by the legislature, near as I can tell

https://www.insidenova.com/news/politic ... 18c52.html

[New Paine]

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

Which is exactly why it's the wrong thing to do.

Why is that? The Supreme Court has never been more conservative than it is right now. The anti-gun laws are almost guaranteed to be struck down and it is better than any type Coup that will just end in arrest, death and the anti-gun folks screeching “SEE THOSE GUN NUTS!!! THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BAN GUNS!”

[New Paine]

Pro-gun activists can, should and will most likely take this to the Supreme Court. That is the lawful thing to do. That is the conservative thing to do.

Laws are beneath what is morally right.

We are a nation of laws, not of anarchy. Any attempts at a coup will end in failure and blowback.

[Telconi]

Which is exactly why it's the wrong thing to do.

Why is that? The Supreme Court has never been more conservative than it is right now. The anti-gun laws are almost guaranteed to be struck down and it is better than any type Coup that will just end in arrest, death and the anti-gun folks screeching “SEE THOSE GUN NUTS!!! THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BAN GUNS!”

Because it doesn't put a stop to the sentiment. Better to teach the grabbers a lesson and maybe next time they try gun bans they'll decide that them and their families suffering isn't worth it.

[Kargintina the Third]

Laws are beneath what is morally right.

We are a nation of laws, not of anarchy. Any attempts at a coup will end in failure and blowback.

The rally is said to possible number in tens of thousands. Should be more than enough to storm the government buildings and remove the tyrant.

[New Paine]

Why is that? The Supreme Court has never been more conservative than it is right now. The anti-gun laws are almost guaranteed to be struck down and it is better than any type Coup that will just end in arrest, death and the anti-gun folks screeching “SEE THOSE GUN NUTS!!! THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BAN GUNS!”

Because it doesn't put a stop to the sentiment. Better to teach the grabbers a lesson and maybe next time they try gun bans they'll decide that them and their families suffering isn't worth it.

Trying to stage a coup is not going to teach the grabbers anything. The only thing it will do is most likely solidify their belief that we need to ban guns.

[New Paine]

We are a nation of laws, not of anarchy. Any attempts at a coup will end in failure and blowback.

The rally is said to possible number in tens of thousands. Should be more than enough to storm the government buildings and remove the tyrant.

National Guard has access to way more powerful weapons that any civilian have access to.

[Kargintina the Third]

Because it doesn't put a stop to the sentiment. Better to teach the grabbers a lesson and maybe next time they try gun bans they'll decide that them and their families suffering isn't worth it.

Trying to stage a coup is not going to teach the grabbers anything. The only thing it will do is most likely solidify their belief that we need to ban guns.

The idea is to show them what will happen to them if they try to pass the same infringements in the future.

[Telconi]

Because it doesn't put a stop to the sentiment. Better to teach the grabbers a lesson and maybe next time they try gun bans they'll decide that them and their families suffering isn't worth it.

Trying to stage a coup is not going to teach the grabbers anything. The only thing it will do is most likely solidify their belief that we need to ban guns.

Unless it works...

I'm not expecting it to change their beliefs, I'm expecting it to scare them into shutting their mouths.

[Bombadil]

Trying to stage a coup is not going to teach the grabbers anything. The only thing it will do is most likely solidify their belief that we need to ban guns.

Unless it works...

I'm not expecting it to change their beliefs, I'm expecting it to scare them into shutting their mouths.

Yay freedom, let's scare people into silence through force.

jesus..

[Kowani]

Trying to stage a coup is not going to teach the grabbers anything. The only thing it will do is most likely solidify their belief that we need to ban guns.

The idea is to show them what will happen to them if they try to pass the same infringements in the future.

Speaking as someone from the other side-that is not going to work.

[Neu California]

Honestly, I think any attempt to "overthrow the tyrant" will just cause gun control people to redouble their efforts against the "unreasonable" gun rights people by giving them ammo along the lines of "If they're willing to go that far, then they must be stopped before they do too much harm"

I've always thought killing someone for some idea or ideal they hold makes them a martyr for that idea or ideal as well

Unreasonable is in quotes because I'm not necessarily saying they are (or aren't)

[The East Marches II]

The idea is to show them what will happen to them if they try to pass the same infringements in the future.

Speaking as someone from the other side-that is not going to work.

It's ok, you guys don't like procurement or rationalized defense spending. They just have to wait for the crippling European style cuts and lose nothing :^)

[Kargintina the Third]

The idea is to show them what will happen to them if they try to pass the same infringements in the future.

Speaking as someone from the other side-that is not going to work.

Than they should be removed as well.

[Telconi]

Unless it works...

I'm not expecting it to change their beliefs, I'm expecting it to scare them into shutting their mouths.

Yay freedom, let's scare people into silence through force.

jesus..

That's the essentialism of warfare, you don't need to convince the enemy they were wrong. You only need to convince them that their position costs too damn much.

[New Paine]

Trying to stage a coup is not going to teach the grabbers anything. The only thing it will do is most likely solidify their belief that we need to ban guns.

Unless it works...

I'm not expecting it to change their beliefs, I'm expecting it to scare them into shutting their mouths.

Yeah, those thinking that civilians can overpower ultra militarized police and the national Guard are on some serious indica and/or mushrooms.

[Telconi]

Unless it works...

I'm not expecting it to change their beliefs, I'm expecting it to scare them into shutting their mouths.

Yeah, thinking that civilians can overpower ultra militarized police and the national Guard are on some serious indica and/or mushrooms.

Who said anything about overpowering the National guard. I highly doubt Ralph Northam sleep in a nat guard base, nor do any of the Democrat legislators, nor do all the Democrat voters.

[The East Marches II]

Unless it works...

I'm not expecting it to change their beliefs, I'm expecting it to scare them into shutting their mouths.

Yeah, those thinking that civilians can overpower ultra militarized police and the national Guard are on some serious indica and/or mushrooms.

Criminal justice reform will make it that much easier when they get out! :^)

Best of luck to the Governor on that front

[Kowani]

Speaking as someone from the other side-that is not going to work.

It's ok, you guys don't like procurement or rationalized defense spending. They just have to wait for the crippling European style cuts and lose nothing :^)

Yeah, how’s that culture war going for you? We can wait, because guns are not winning it.

Speaking as someone from the other side-that is not going to work.

Than they should be removed as well.

What?