Taoiseach Time(An Irish Election Thread)

[Thermodolia]

Sinn Féin all the way!

Thermo, they’re left-wing hippie socialists. I thought you hated them?

It’s Therm.

And they are the closest to a United ireland which is my goal. 26+6 = 1

[Outer Sparta]

Thermo, they’re left-wing hippie socialists. I thought you hated them?

It’s Therm.

And they are the closest to a United ireland which is my goal. 26+6 = 1

Hmm, I knew you may have had some of that Irish nationalist blood in you the moment you said Sinn Fein.

[Thermodolia]

It’s Therm.

And they are the closest to a United ireland which is my goal. 26+6 = 1

Hmm, I knew you may have had some of that Irish nationalist blood in you the moment you said Sinn Fein.

That obvious huh?

[Outer Sparta]

Hmm, I knew you may have had some of that Irish nationalist blood in you the moment you said Sinn Fein.

That obvious huh?

Well I didn't know that in you before.

[New Paine]

Thermo, they’re left-wing hippie socialists. I thought you hated them?

It’s Therm.

And they are the closest to a United ireland which is my goal. 26+6 = 1

But they HATE authoritarianism.

[Philjia]

Thermo, they’re left-wing hippie socialists. I thought you hated them?

It’s Therm.

And they are the closest to a United ireland which is my goal. 26+6 = 1

Fianna Fáil are also strong proponents of Irish unification and are liberal conservatives rather than democratic socialists. Regardless, basically every party in Dublin would accept Northern Ireland choosing to join the republic. The people who can actually make a difference in terms of Irish unity are all in Belfast and Westminster.

[Thermodolia]

It’s Therm.

And they are the closest to a United ireland which is my goal. 26+6 = 1

Fianna Fáil are also strong proponents of Irish unification and are liberal conservatives rather than democratic socialists. Regardless, basically every party in Dublin would accept Northern Ireland choosing to join the republic. The people who can actually make a difference in terms of Irish unity are all in Belfast and Westminster.

SF is closer to my political leanings than FF is. I’m not exactly a capitalist

[Ifreann]

Speaking of the Shinners, a Sinn Féin councillor faced no disciplinary action for suggesting on his podcast that Leo Varadkar is not fit to be Taoiseach because of his "Indian blood" and because isn't a "family man". He is now suspended from the party because of his suggestion that "scumbag" underage girls are having sex with men and then blackmailing them for €10,000.

[Greater Carloso]

Sinn Fein are not Irish nationalists. As far as the North is concerned, their policy is 'Brits out, everybody else in'. Its been easy for them to shout from the opposition benches for the last 10 or so years, making every promise under the sun.

They're still the political wing of the IRA to people who can remember The Troubles. On that and their clear incompetence between themselves and the DUP in governing the north, I won't be voting for them. Anybody but Sinn Fein.

[Thermodolia]

Sinn Fein are not Irish nationalists. As far as the North is concerned, their policy is 'Brits out, everybody else in'. Its been easy for them to shout from the opposition benches for the last 10 or so years, making every promise under the sun.

They're still the political wing of the IRA to people who can remember The Troubles. On that and their clear incompetence between themselves and the DUP in governing the north, I won't be voting for them. Anybody but Sinn Fein.

You say that like it’s a bad thing

[Philjia]

Sinn Fein are not Irish nationalists. As far as the North is concerned, their policy is 'Brits out, everybody else in'. Its been easy for them to shout from the opposition benches for the last 10 or so years, making every promise under the sun.

They're still the political wing of the IRA to people who can remember The Troubles. On that and their clear incompetence between themselves and the DUP in governing the north, I won't be voting for them. Anybody but Sinn Fein.

You say that like it’s a bad thing

In 1974 the Provisional IRA killed 21 innocent civilians in the English city of Birmingham with time bombs placed in pubs. 182 more were injured. Six innocent Irishmen were wrongfully convicted of carrying out the attack and spent 16 years in prison. The legacy of the troubles is a pile of innocent bodies built by violent sectarianism like that which motivated the IRA. More than half the people killed in the Troubles were civilians who didn't do anything except be born in the wrong place and sometimes believe in the wrong thing. The IRA, the Ulster Loyalists, and the British government forces were complicit in acts of shocking brutality that have left lasting, perhaps incurable scars on the face of Northern Ireland. Gerry Adams, the previous leader of SF, always denied being in the RA, and there was insufficient evidence to convict him, and I don't think a single person in the whole of the UK believed him in the slightest. When stupid Americans shout "up the RA!", this is what they're endorsing, and the same fucking sectarianism which has blighted Northern Irish politics for longer than I've been alive.

[Marxist Germany]

The Freedom Party, Aontu, or FF. I won't be able to vote this time sadly.

[Outer Sparta]

The Freedom Party, Aontu, or FF. I won't be able to vote this time sadly.

Why not? Did you move out?

[Marxist Germany]

The Freedom Party, Aontu, or FF. I won't be able to vote this time sadly.

Why not? Did you move out?

15 years of age.

[Outer Sparta]

Why not? Did you move out?

15 years of age.

Damn you're only a few years away.

[Risottia]

"They" who? The only ones who have the right to choose what to do with Northern Ireland are the citizens of NI.

Well not quite. The UK government has to let them have a vote first. So if the UK let them have a vote then they could

True true.
NIexit when?

[Greater Carloso]

You say that like it’s a bad thing

In 1974 the Provisional IRA killed 21 innocent civilians in the English city of Birmingham with time bombs placed in pubs. 182 more were injured. Six innocent Irishmen were wrongfully convicted of carrying out the attack and spent 16 years in prison. The legacy of the troubles is a pile of innocent bodies built by violent sectarianism like that which motivated the IRA. More than half the people killed in the Troubles were civilians who didn't do anything except be born in the wrong place and sometimes believe in the wrong thing. The IRA, the Ulster Loyalists, and the British government forces were complicit in acts of shocking brutality that have left lasting, perhaps incurable scars on the face of Northern Ireland. Gerry Adams, the previous leader of SF, always denied being in the RA, and there was insufficient evidence to convict him, and I don't think a single person in the whole of the UK believed him in the slightest. When stupid Americans shout "up the RA!", this is what they're endorsing, and the same fucking sectarianism which has blighted Northern Irish politics for longer than I've been alive.

This, to be honest. The barbarism of the so-called 'IRA' has been romanticised amongst a lot of younger people here in Ireland and among Irish Americans who really don't have a great understanding of Irish history or politics. The IRA in the north were nothing but far-left terrorists and glorified drug barons/bank robbers, same with the Unionist paramilitary butchers (UDF/UDR/UVF) who massacred 34 Irish people with the assistance of the British regime in the Dublin-Monaghan bombings, along with many other Catholics. Arlene Fosters' father was severely injured in a shooting and she herself was almost killed in a bomb attack on a bus by the IRA. Sinn Fein/IRA have done nothing to bring the Reunification of Ireland closer, only caused more division, and ultimately the GFA has only painted over the cracks that still exist. They make a mockery of Irish republicanism.

There is also great irony in the fact that Sinn Fein allowed Westminister to impose English-made law legalising gay marraige and abortion in the North, without so much as a whimper of dissent. They are not Irish nationalists.

[Joohan]

Ireland, once the heartland of hardcore catholocism... now even the right wing parties are led by abortion loving homosexuals...

* drinking intensifies * Putin please... just launch the nukes already!

[Bear Stearns]

I have distant Irish ancestry so allow me to speak authoritatively on Irish politics and aggressively chime in on issues.

[Ifreann]

I am glad to hear that Ireland will commemorate the heroes that were fighting the terrorist during the Civil war. The Irish Royal Constabulary deserves a statue in Dublin.

Imagine being so bad at pretending to support the RIC that you call them the Irish Royal Constabulary.

[Eglaecia]

Hoping Peadar Tóibín can keep his seat at least. I don't expect Aontú to make any big gains but I like them relatively to the other parties. I'm probably just as close to the National Party, ideologically, as I am to Aontú but I detest Barrett.

Ireland, once the heartland of hardcore catholocism... now even the right wing parties are led by abortion loving homosexuals...

* drinking intensifies * Putin please... just launch the nukes already!

I mean, what right-wing parties? Fianna Fail are right-leaning at best and Fine Gael have been secular and socially liberal for the last few decades. They're considered centre-right because they're economically liberal. The only right-wing parties are Renua and the National Party and they're irrelevant. Also Renua are spineless "liberal conservatives".

There is also great irony in the fact that Sinn Fein allowed Westminister to impose English-made law legalising gay marraige and abortion in the North, without so much as a whimper of dissent. They are not Irish nationalists.

Sinn Fein are an opportunist pro-unity party. They put their own ambitions of power over the Irish nation. The organisation calling itself Sinn Fein isn't even the real SF, the real party died following the September 1927 election.

[Greater Carloso]

There is also great irony in the fact that Sinn Fein allowed Westminister to impose English-made law legalising gay marraige and abortion in the North, without so much as a whimper of dissent. They are not Irish nationalists.

Sinn Fein are an opportunist pro-unity party. They put their own ambitions of power over the Irish nation. The organisation calling itself Sinn Fein isn't even the real SF, the real party died following the September 1927 election.

Exactly. Just like the actual IRA of the War of Independence is not the same organisation as the terrorist, red 'IRA' of The Troubles, the modern Sinn Féin bears no resemblance to the Sinn Féin of Arthur Griffith.

[Bear Stearns]

I am glad to hear that Ireland will commemorate the heroes that were fighting the terrorist during the Civil war. The Irish Royal Constabulary deserves a statue in Dublin.

hahahahaha

[Yawkland]

asuh dudes

[Eglaecia]

Sinn Fein are an opportunist pro-unity party. They put their own ambitions of power over the Irish nation. The organisation calling itself Sinn Fein isn't even the real SF, the real party died following the September 1927 election.

Exactly. Just like the actual IRA of the War of Independence is not the same organisation as the terrorist, red 'IRA' of The Troubles, the modern Sinn Féin bears no resemblance to the Sinn Féin of Arthur Griffith.

Its not just a case of not baring resemblance, its that they're legally a separate organisation. There was a court ruling on it decades ago, the modern SF aren't the legal successors to the original SF.